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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:13:59 No.16832511 View View Reply Original Report

>mfw I just realized Storm Throw got buffed to what is effectively 120 BP, making it better than Close Combat
>mfw I spent a ridiculous amount of time and effort breeding a perfect Pinsir with Close Combat and Quick Attack when I could have just had it learn Storm Throw by level up

The fuck, man. Were there any other crazy buffs this gen I don't know about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:15:42 No.16832538 Report

Quoted By: >>16832542 >>16832563 >>16832652

Storm Throw got buffed but critical hits got nerfed to x1.5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:16:06 No.16832542 Report

Quoted By: >>16832563 >>16832652

>>16832538
This. Sorry m80

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:16:10 No.16832543 Report

Quoted By: >>16832563 >>16832652

storm throws bp is now 90

crits now only do 1.5 damage

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:16:24 No.16832548 Report

Quoted By: >>16832563 >>16832652

You know crits only do 1.5x damage now right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:17:45 No.16832563 Report

Quoted By: >>16832588

>>16832548
>>16832543
>>16832542
>>16832538
I want to believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:19:53 No.16832588 Report

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>>16832563
Since you didn't know about the crit nerf, you should probably also know that crit percentages were changed to make it possible to focus energy two stages to get I believe a 75% crit hit rate, or just once for 50%. Then crits also ignore stat drops, so moves like draco meteor when used on pokemon like kingdra who can focus sniper the move makes for a devastating combination since the stat drop from DM is ignored

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:24:01 No.16832652 Report

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>>16832538
>>16832542
>>16832543
>>16832548
Well at least I didn't waste my time breeding that Pinsir then. Good to know.

Acorn 3539-8888-4610

Acorn 3539-8888-4610 Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:27:44 No.16832701 Report

Quoted By: >>16832722

Well, since you asked for crazy buffs, you know about Knock Off and Defog by now right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:29:15 No.16832722 Report

Quoted By: >>16832790

>>16832701
I heard about Defog,not Knock Off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:33:42 No.16832790 Report

Quoted By: >>16832955

>>16832722
Knock is now incredibly good. Base 65 power that doubles if it knocks off a held item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:40:43 No.16832920 Report

Quoted By: >>16832968 >>16833059 >>16833171 >>16840694

>>16832511

Hex got boosted from 50 to 65.
Pin Missile went from 14 to 25 Power, AND 85 to 95 Accuracy.
Incinerate got doubled in power, 30 to 60.
Fury Cutter starts at 40 power now, from 20.
Frost Breath from 40 to 60 power.
Crabhammer went from 90 Power to 100.

That's all for moves I personally care about that weren't already listed.

Adaptability Crawdaunt. 130 power Knock Off and 200 power Crabhammer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:41:29 No.16832935 Report

Quoted By: >>16832953 >>16832954

is there a list of pokemon that got stat buffs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:42:28 No.16832953 Report

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>>16832935

http://www.serebii.net/xy/updatedattacks.shtml
http://www.serebii.net/xy/updatedstats.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:42:35 No.16832954 Report

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>>16832935
serebii

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:42:45 No.16832955 Report

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>>16832790
It's not actually doubled, it just says it does. It increases to 97 power.

Also, Rage Powder no longer redirects grass Pokemons' attacks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:43:24 No.16832968 Report

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>>16832920
Holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:45:20 No.16832998 Report

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>>16832511
http://www.serebii.net/xy/updatedattacks.shtml

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:48:49 No.16833059 Report

Quoted By: >>16833311 >>16833374

>>16832920
>Incinerate got doubled in power, 30 to 60.
And it's still about 15 points too weak.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:51:11 No.16833092 Report

Quoted By: >>16833176 >>16833306

>Pledges all now have 80 Base Power now
>they're actually usable ingame
Now if only using two of them as a combo move didn't essentially cancel the first one, we'd be on to something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:55:31 No.16833171 Report

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>>16832920
A jap #rekt my team the other day with that.

I obviously went and breed one for myself. Shit's great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:56:12 No.16833176 Report

Quoted By: >>16833201

>>16833092
what are you talking about? they combine and give you nice effects..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 04:58:11 No.16833201 Report

Quoted By: >>16833228 >>16833257

>>16833176
Yes, but if you use say Fire Pledge and then Grass Pledge on two different pokemon, Fire Pledge doesn't go off, and Grass Pledge's attack power is doubled.

Sure, you get the extra effects, but you miss out on using Fire Pledge to get those effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:00:20 No.16833228 Report

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>>16833201
What also makes it only go off on the slowest of the two (or three) turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:01:55 No.16833257 Report

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>>16833201
didn't know that.. thanks for the clear up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:06:19 No.16833306 Report

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>>16833092
What happens if you combine all the pledges?
What sorcery could occur?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:06:38 No.16833311 Report

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>>16833059
>Knock off targets more items and gains power when it knocks an item off
>Incinerate is weaker than Knock off and doesn't gain power when it's burning a berry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:10:06 No.16833338 Report

Quoted By: >>16833386

>not giving incinerate to roserade or mr. mime
>not creating a fire-type special technician sweeper for the sole purpose of using incinerate
what are you doing gf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:12:48 No.16833374 Report

Quoted By: >>16833391

>>16833059
>fire technician

We'll have one someday and when that day comes.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:13:51 No.16833386 Report

Quoted By: >>16833429

>>16833338
>bumping Low Sweep up from 60 to 65 for no fucking reason, making it ineligible for Technician boost
>hitmontop's face when

Thanks a lot faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:14:07 No.16833391 Report

Quoted By: >>16833418

>>16833374
When that day comes, Incinerate won't be a TM anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:16:35 No.16833418 Report

Quoted By: >>16833469

>>16833391
It's too late. Egg move will be easy.

>mega Heatmor

You just wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:17:36 No.16833429 Report

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>>16833386
I bet Breloom was broken at the VGC or some stupid shit. That's the only reason that would make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:20:52 No.16833469 Report

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>>16833418
Actually:

Aerial Ace
Bug Bite
Incinerate
Focus Blast

Technician w/ Jolly
HP: 85
Att: 122
Def: 66
SpA: 130
SpD: 66
Spe: 105

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:26:21 No.16833540 Report

Quoted By: >>16833636 >>16833653 >>16840738

>nerf all the 95 bp special moves down to 90 bp
Okay, I guess I can see why you'd do that...
>then introduce a 95 bp fairy move anyway
The fuck, Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:33:05 No.16833636 Report

Quoted By: >>16839325

>>16833540
>reduce Meteor Mash to 90BP
>5 point increase in accuracy

>Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
>90BP
>100 Accuracy

Fuck you Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 05:34:01 No.16833653 Report

Quoted By: >>16840284

>>16833540
Keep in mind that fairy move doesn't come with a status other than a SpA drop, which is nothing compared to Par/Brn/Frz.

5 BP seems like a fair trade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:15:10 No.16839325 Report

Quoted By: >>16839469

>>16833636
didn't all but one of those get a bp drop?

also...tfw techno blast is still only 85bp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 17:31:31 No.16839469 Report

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>>16839325
Wait, how do we know that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 18:33:41 No.16840284 Report

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>>16833653
Neither does Energy Ball, Bug Buzz, Surf or Psychic. And Shadow Ball is still only 80 power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 18:36:37 No.16840310 Report

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Finally, chatter was buffed enough to turn chatot into a gimmicky rape train.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 19:09:13 No.16840694 Report

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>>16832920
>Adaptability Crawdaunt. 130 power Knock Off and 200 power Crabhammer.

Time to breed for one now

wouldn't be surprised if he was a high UU or a solid OU cause that is ridiculous

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Dec 2013 19:11:50 No.16840738 Report

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>>16833540
Don't forget the 30% chance of SpATk drop instead of the standard 10%.
Fairy is the Mary Sue type after all.

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