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Erk 3609-1438-9794 (Wobbuffet, Duosion, Munna) Wed 25 Dec 2013 09:09:57 No.16875325 View View Reply Original Report

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-pokebankoubeta-72261301

I thought the Keckleon shit was just pointless hype, but I think he might...he might not be so bad, /vp/. RU at least.

Erk 3609-1438-9794 (Wobbuffet, Duosion, Munna)

Erk 3609-1438-9794 (Wobbuffet, Duosion, Munna) Wed 25 Dec 2013 09:12:55 No.16875361 Report

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bump
plz watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 09:13:08 No.16875364 Report

Quoted By: >>16875378 >>16875397 >>16876134

>terrible stats all around
>bad Normal mono-typing
>lack of any useful niche

Kecleon is a worthless Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 09:14:16 No.16875378 Report

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>>16875364
I smogon'd a little

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 09:16:07 No.16875397 Report

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>>16875364
His niche is being so shitty your opponent won't expect it to OHKO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 09:20:21 No.16875443 Report

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>RU at least
That's not exactly good enough to warrant hype at all

Erk 3609-1438-9794 (Wobbuffet, Duosion, Munna)

Erk 3609-1438-9794 (Wobbuffet, Duosion, Munna) Wed 25 Dec 2013 09:42:30 No.16875715 Report

Quoted By: >>16876023 >>16876206

oops, forget actual replay

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-72261301

more
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-72263327
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-72264358

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:07:06 No.16876023 Report

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>>16875715

Good shit, man. What's your EV spread?

I think it really can flourish in OU as long as it's unpredicted. Once people recognize this set, people will start setting up on it all day.

>dat impressive LO damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:16:05 No.16876134 Report

Quoted By: >>16876249

>>16875364
It's got a 0.3 and a 0.5 multiplier on all it's attacks, it's gonna get used.

Joshiii

Joshiii Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:21:46 No.16876206 Report

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>>16875715
Dat MLuke Sweep
>Ladder Climber
Good Sheeet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:24:28 No.16876249 Report

Quoted By: >>16876304

>>16876134

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Protean does not give the 30% boost that Pixilate or Aerilate does. It's just getting a STAB boost, plus LO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:27:51 No.16876304 Report

Quoted By: >>16876375

>>16876249
That's waht I meant, 0.3 from LO and 0.5 from Protean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:30:28 No.16876331 Report

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Yeah I love Kecleon. What I do is Adamant with 252 attack, 252 def and 4 HP holding an Assault Vest.

Then it's moves are Shadow Sneak, Power-up Punch, Aqua Tail and then Knock Off.

Of course Drain Punch might be nice cause i've got no sustain but the boosts from Power-up Punch is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:34:03 No.16876375 Report

Quoted By: >>16876400

>>16876304

I goofed.

If it's any consolation, I agree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 10:35:55 No.16876400 Report

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>>16876375
It's got a similar deal as the Nido family and Frogger the ninja frog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 15:40:16 No.16879184 Report

Quoted By: >>16879321 >>16879368 >>16879426 >>16879617

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-72296278

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-72297073

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 15:50:48 No.16879302 Report

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>>16875325
>Talon+Enflame
Talonflame's name just became less shitty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 15:52:23 No.16879321 Report

Quoted By: >>16879489

>>16879184
Before anyone points that out, I used Shadow Sneak against Stoutland because I was expecting a Superpower. It didn't occur to me it could learn Play Rough in gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 15:56:23 No.16879368 Report

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>>16879184
Kind of surprising that Aegislash didn't use King's Shield.
Was it running Swords Dance + 3 attacks? I find it pretty risky to be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:01:50 No.16879419 Report

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>>16875325
Your opponent was terrible, geez. Memento on U-Turn Scizor? Yeah, that's a good idea. Why didn't he just blow you up with a fire move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:02:29 No.16879426 Report

Quoted By: >>16879438

>>16879184
Care to post that Kecleon set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:03:57 No.16879438 Report

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>>16879426

Kecleon @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Thunder Wave
- Shadow Sneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:09:14 No.16879489 Report

Quoted By: >>16879525

>>16879321
I was confused. But what is the set for that Mandi? That thing didn't give a fuck about those attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:11:51 No.16879525 Report

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>>16879489
Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Defog
- Taunt
- Foul Play

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:19:08 No.16879617 Report

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>>16879184
>takes less than 50% from specs Heliolisk Thunderbolt
>OHKOs with Drain Punch and fully recovers HP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:42:31 No.16880019 Report

Quoted By: >>16880180

I'm in love, I want to build around Kecleon now.
Good teammates?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 16:52:57 No.16880180 Report

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>>16880019
A few suggestions:

-Something that can handle setup sweepers like Quagsire
-A cleric. Kecleon hates toxic and burn.
-Pokemon that appreciate the removal of Kecleon's main targets (Alakazam, Greninja, Deoxys-S, Gengar and Aegislash). Fighting types like Conkeldurr come to mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 17:30:09 No.16880702 Report

Quoted By: >>16880747 >>16881145

Another replay here: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-72311499

In this one you can see how NOT to use Kecleon - don't try to muscle your way against bulky attackers and setup sweepers like Kecleon because it will backfire.
Thunder Wave however ended up saving the day.

I made a mistake using WoW against Conkeldurr, but I thought it was a Sheer Force variant because it had the elemental punches and no Flame Orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 17:32:33 No.16880747 Report

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>>16880702
*like Reuniclus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 17:55:47 No.16881145 Report

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>>16880702
Epic ragequit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 18:14:56 No.16881410 Report

Quoted By: >>16881503

My best replay so far:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-72322619

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Dec 2013 18:21:29 No.16881503 Report

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>>16881410
Loved that Greninja vs Kecleon at the start. Good to see the overrated frog lost against the superior Protean user.

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