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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:12:26 No.16888921 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>16889216 >>16889394 >>16889621 >>16889681 >>16890225 >>16890529

>No Dragon Pulse, Dragon Dance, or Outrage via breeding
>Some people say Sceptile gets Dazzling Gleam

Do they get anything new or good this gen.?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:16:54 No.16889000 Report

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Why are they doing this to my bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:18:13 No.16889030 Report

Quoted By: >>16889097

Nope, sceptile is the pokemon that gets fucked over every gen

Being sceptile is suffering

Kohdok 4098-3526-4984(Flying)

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Kohdok 4098-3526-4984(Flying) Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:21:42 No.16889097 Report

Quoted By: >>16889134 >>16889146 >>16890233

>>16889030
Oh you think YOU'VE got it bad?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:23:41 No.16889134 Report

Quoted By: >>16889225 >>16890192

>>16889097
You got assault vest at least. Sceptile got shit.

Literally sceptile got shat on during the split, it never recovered either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:24:28 No.16889146 Report

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>>16889097
>pseudo
>complaining
Kekking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:25:18 No.16889161 Report

Quoted By: >>16890535

It seems like all the grass starters get shafted

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:28:01 No.16889216 Report

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>>16888921
>No Dragon Pulse, Dragon Dance, or Outrage via breeding

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:28:48 No.16889225 Report

Quoted By: >>16889844

>>16889134
Now you're playin' my song.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:30:49 No.16889269 Report

Quoted By: >>16889300 >>16889322 >>16889338 >>16889339 >>16890360 >>16890515

Can we all agree that so far this gen is the shittiest thing ever happened to the franchise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:32:42 No.16889300 Report

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>>16889269
lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:34:06 No.16889322 Report

Quoted By: >>16889417

>>16889269
Nope. Although GF is really showing how little it cares for anything not named charizard or mewtwo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:34:34 No.16889338 Report

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>>16889269
Nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:34:36 No.16889339 Report

Quoted By: >>16890090

>>16889269
Yep, we have a mage starter with no damn moves and a shittier ability, a water starter that with an OP ability, and a grass starter with 6 weaknesses including x4 to flying

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:36:02 No.16889363 Report

Quoted By: >>16890220

Why the fuck doesn't GF simply retcon it's BS and switches the offenses? It would literally fix Sceptile. Sword Dance, a varied physical movepool PLUS Sceptile's natural speed? C'mon Gamefreak

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:37:36 No.16889394 Report

Quoted By: >>16889414 >>16889476

>>16888921
I will fucking murder whoever started the the "lol sceptile gets dazzling gleam" rumour.

Fucking pricks getting my hopes up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:39:22 No.16889414 Report

Quoted By: >>16889432 >>16889439 >>16889465

>>16889394
It does, it's been confirmed in battle maisons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:39:33 No.16889417 Report

Quoted By: >>16889469 >>16889470 >>16890453

>>16889322
>GF is really showing how little it cares for anything not named charizard or mewtwo
that's enough for me. what's even the point of playing Lucario/Charizard/Mewtwo/Gengar tha game. I mean, most of the new Pokemon have retarded moveset/stats except the obvious Greninja/Talonflame/Aegislash, fairy type is overall a big delusion imo (at least design wise) and the whole gen is rushed as fuck, just genwunner bait, and I say this as someone who started playing with blue and gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:40:38 No.16889432 Report

Quoted By: >>16889564 >>16889593

>>16889414
No it doesn't, you fuck. I have a fucking Sceptile and he does not learn Dazzling Gleam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:41:04 No.16889439 Report

Quoted By: >>16889460

>>16889414
It doesn't. Check Serebii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:42:34 No.16889460 Report

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>>16889439
>muh serebii confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:42:42 No.16889465 Report

Quoted By: >>16889527 >>16889573

>>16889414

That means nothing.

Maison goes to using illegal move sets to try and stop you. I was confuse hax'd by Confuse Ray by something that couldn't learn it in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:42:52 No.16889469 Report

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>>16889417
I agree completely

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:42:58 No.16889470 Report

Quoted By: >>16889530

>>16889417
Fairies were meant to nerf dragons and they're still as fine as ever, Dark on the other hand, especially Scrafty and Pangoro got fucked over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:43:19 No.16889476 Report

Quoted By: >>16889573

>>16889394
This is where I first saw it:
http://archive.foolz.us/vp/thread/15925443/

ICON 4570 8254 9192 (tangela, swadloon, quilladen) !.5lBEu6KI6

ICON 4570 8254 9192 (tangela, swadloon, quilladen) !.5lBEu6KI6 Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:43:40 No.16889489 Report

Quoted By: >>16889503 >>16889598

What's the most up to date calculator for ivs?
It seems like they are all broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:43:57 No.16889495 Report

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It wouldn't be so bad if Hidden Power wasn't pretty much completely based on the luck of the draw, but no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:44:44 No.16889503 Report

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>>16889489
Serebii's XY IV calculator works fine, Anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:45:52 No.16889527 Report

Quoted By: >>16889565

>>16889465
What if contrary Serperior was created exclusively for the Subway/Maison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:45:56 No.16889530 Report

Quoted By: >>16890364

>>16889470
Dark types were already strong. Since their advent we haven't seen many Psychic types. The fairy type is good, because it keeps fighting, dark and dragon types in check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:47:14 No.16889564 Report

Quoted By: >>16889685

>>16889432
maybe it's through breeding but not TM, like Ampharos and Reflect in gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:47:15 No.16889565 Report

Quoted By: >>16889716

>>16889527
Does Pokegen and Pokedit work on unreleased HA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:47:43 No.16889573 Report

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>>16889476
Fag should have saved a video, if only to prove that this >>16889465 is true

I really hope the Maison doesn't actually do that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:48:40 No.16889588 Report

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I hate it, /vp/. I eagerly got my hands on a Treecko as soon as I could and started the breeding process. But then I realized I had no idea what I want to do with it, looked at its options, and kind of just stopped. I really want to use Sceptile because it's one of my all time favorites, but I just have no idea what to do with it given these limited options.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:48:52 No.16889593 Report

Quoted By: >>16889614 >>16891298

>>16889432
Here, I'm so fucking pissed that I took a picture.
Forgive me for the Churrospeak and my Sceptile's shitty nickname, but whatever:
"Brillo magico" is "Dazzling Gleam"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:49:04 No.16889598 Report

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>>16889489
Metalkid's calculator was functional within the week XY came out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:49:45 No.16889614 Report

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>>16889593
NO PUEDE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:50:03 No.16889621 Report

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>>16888921
Why would a thief like Grovyle's line get anything good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:53:16 No.16889680 Report

Quoted By: >>16889693 >>16889708

>Sceptile is a special attacker
>Empoleon doesn't gets defiant instead of competetive despite being a special attacker
>metagross has no moves
>Contrary Serperior can't be used online

At least Milotic is better than ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:53:18 No.16889681 Report

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>>16888921
Be glad they aren't raising your hopes for its mega evo being part Dragon.
It'll be part dark.
can't stop the edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:53:22 No.16889685 Report

Quoted By: >>16889725 >>16889754 >>16890008

>>16889564
Very well, faggot, I will try this, and report to this thread.

EVERYONE WISH ME LUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:54:19 No.16889693 Report

Quoted By: >>16889723

>>16889680
>Empoleon doesn't gets defiant instead of competetive despite being a special attacker
I don't know WHAT the fuck happened here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:54:51 No.16889708 Report

Quoted By: >>16889717

>>16889680
>Milotic is better than ever
>Mismagius is usable
>>16882435

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:55:20 No.16889716 Report

Quoted By: >>16889769

>>16889565
Oh god I want to know this as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:55:25 No.16889717 Report

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>>16889708
>dazzling gleam

Holy shit gamefreak did something right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:55:51 No.16889723 Report

Quoted By: >>16889755

>>16889693
how effective is physical empoleon anyway? it gets some good moves like aqua jet and iron head, right? r-right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:56:01 No.16889725 Report

Quoted By: >>16890008

>>16889685
Swablu/Altaria are the only parents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:58:03 No.16889754 Report

Quoted By: >>16890008

>>16889685
I BELIEVE IN YOU ANON

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:58:03 No.16889755 Report

Quoted By: >>16889848

>>16889723
It gets Aqua Jet, Drill Peck, and Swords Dance. Unfortunately his Attack stat is ass compared to his Sp. Atk, and his ability is largely dependent on your opponent fucking up. I don't know why he's a special attacker when the dex made a note of his fucking blade wings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:58:41 No.16889767 Report

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>Sceptile will never get a Mego-Evo that makes him Grass/Dragon, gives him Tough Claws and higher Atk

Why does Japan's favourite have to be Blaziken. It's a mediocre to overpowered chicken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 01:58:48 No.16889769 Report

Quoted By:

>>16889716
Yup. It's the best basically

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:01:02 No.16889812 Report

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Sceptile can still be a mixed attacker, I guess. Leaf Storm, Focus Blast, Earthquake, and Rock Slide isn't ENTIRELY terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:02:42 No.16889844 Report

Quoted By: >>16889880 >>16889948 >>16890046

>>16889225
Megas for every starter when

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:02:55 No.16889848 Report

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>>16889755
>only two special steel type attacks
>tfw Empoleon can only learn one
>tfw no special signature steel winged based attack
Gamefreak needs to get their shit together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:04:36 No.16889880 Report

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>>16889844
That would be exceeding.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:07:49 No.16889948 Report

Quoted By: >>16889961 >>16890031 >>16890093

>>16889844
Soon hopefully
>charizard gets two
>other kanto starters get one
>blaziken gets one
>other hoenn starters didn't get any
>no other starters, including the kalos ones got one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:08:37 No.16889961 Report

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>>16889948
The favoritism is strong in Game Freak.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:11:37 No.16890008 Report

Quoted By: >>16890018 >>16890086 >>16890139 >>16890261

>>16889754
>>16889725
>>16889685
It...It doesn't...

Why, GF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:12:27 No.16890018 Report

Quoted By: >>16890025

>>16890008
br?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:12:58 No.16890025 Report

Quoted By: >>16890045

>>16890018
Spanish, actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:13:21 No.16890031 Report

Quoted By: >>16890184

>>16889948
>charizard gets two
I'm gonna stay mad until the end of time.

>playing favoritism
>putting one starter over others
>not even announcing future events for the other two left out
I know you're the one behind this bullshit Masuda. You're fucking dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:14:06 No.16890045 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890025
sad hue...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:14:14 No.16890046 Report

Quoted By: >>16890143

>>16889844
only if they get new types and new moves
what would make them good and unique though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:16:02 No.16890086 Report

Quoted By: >>16890132 >>16890295

>>16890008
Lluevehojas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:16:06 No.16890090 Report

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>>16889339
agreed. GF made stupid choices this gen

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:16:16 No.16890093 Report

Quoted By: >>16890116 >>16890160 >>16890184 >>16890185 >>16890203

>>16889948
>MY FUCKING FACE WHEN THE FUCKING AIRPLANE DRAGONS GOT MEGAEVOS OVER SWAMPERT AND SCEPTILE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:17:39 No.16890116 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890093
>Megaevos
>plural

They really only got one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:18:26 No.16890132 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890086
Leaf Storm

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:18:48 No.16890139 Report

Quoted By: >>16890174 >>16890183

>>16890008
Does GF ever listen to fan petitions and complaints? I know other developers do and they try to fix some shit. Seriously, we have a lot of pokemon that don't have moves, counterproductive abilities, useless abilities and shit stats. Meanwhile, the few pokemon that they like have everything handed to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:19:02 No.16890143 Report

Quoted By: >>16890222 >>16890257 >>16890311

>>16890046
Feraligator gains Fighting or Ice typing and some OP ability
Obligatory Mega Meganium Grass/Fairy
>Typlosion
Obligatory Mega Swampert with you know what I'm gonna say...Sap Sipper
Empoleon gets Defiant
Infernape gets Moxie
Torterra gets something.....
Seperior gets much needed dragon typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:20:03 No.16890160 Report

Quoted By: >>16890199 >>16890232 >>16890291

>>16890093
>wanting more ugly mega evolutions
why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:20:09 No.16890165 Report

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that moment when you realized charizard gets more mega evolutions then every non kanto starter put together

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:20:20 No.16890174 Report

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>>16890139
this is what is making me think that I wasted my money buying X and a 3ds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:20:57 No.16890183 Report

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>>16890139
Flareon finally got Flare Blitz, Genesects Techno Blast is no longer shit, and some other things >>16882435 . That means someone is listening...someone incredibly slow. But that's better than no one.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:20:57 No.16890184 Report

Quoted By: >>16890241

>>16890031
Same here, I thought the first Charizard wasn't even that bad but that fucking x version is an abomination and forced so people can have their precious "m-muh dragonzard"
>>16890093
I never even liked the idea of mega evolutions, when I first heard them I prayed they were fake especially with what got them like blaziken and lucario at first announcement. Thank fuck the weather nerf at least or the metagames would be awful.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:21:00 No.16890185 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890093
Please don't mention it
It hurts...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:21:10 No.16890192 Report

Quoted By:

>>16889134
Yeah like assault vest fixes metagross' shitty type resistances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:21:44 No.16890199 Report

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>>16890160
>mega evolutions
>ugly

I'm not saying they all look good, but some were pretty great, Mega banette and Mega abomasnow come to mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:22:00 No.16890203 Report

Quoted By: >>16890262

>>16890093
I'm fine with the other starters not having mega evos. What pisses me off is that they neglect their move pools and abilities. For fuck's sake, give me a reason to use: Delphox, Meganium, Serperior, and Typhlosion

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:22:49 No.16890220 Report

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>>16889363
yeah it's pretty fucked up that sceptile can't use THE move that was pretty much created for him. At least he can still sub seed, r-right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:22:51 No.16890222 Report

Quoted By: >>16890411

>>16890143
come on give typhlosion something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:22:55 No.16890225 Report

Quoted By:

>>16888921
>DD
Nigger, you've got SD and Unburden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:23:14 No.16890232 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890160
>Wanting shitmons that could actually shine with a little buff to die as shit
why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:23:15 No.16890233 Report

Quoted By: >>16890499

>>16889097
>OU for three straight gens
>one of the most popular Pokemon in doubles
>implying its bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:23:45 No.16890241 Report

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>>16890184
>Thank fuck the weather nerf at least or the metagames would be awful
Ya know I always complained about the weather nerf but when you bring it up now I fully agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:24:41 No.16890257 Report

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>>16890143
Empoleon ACTUALLY have Defiant, when Competitive is better hurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:24:55 No.16890261 Report

Quoted By: >>16890313

>>16890008
Fuck, that's horseshit.

Why the fuck would the Maison give Pokémon with illegal moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:24:57 No.16890262 Report

Quoted By: >>16890307

>>16890203
use them, they give you a tactical advantage, being as the enemy will never see it coming

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:26:55 No.16890291 Report

Quoted By: >>16890314

>>16890160
>Banette
>Mawile
>little Kangaskhan
>ugly
No taste detected.

Gian - 2638-0056-4780 (Grumpig, Wobuffet, Gohitelle) SV: [1627]

Gian - 2638-0056-4780 (Grumpig, Wobuffet, Gohitelle) SV: [1627] Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:27:04 No.16890295 Report

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>>16890086
Leaf Storm in Spanish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:27:28 No.16890307 Report

Quoted By: >>16890318

>>16890262
Not really, they're mostly relegated to using their stabs and lack coverage moves and abilities to help overcome their typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:27:44 No.16890311 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890143
Thick Fat Torterra. Bye bye x4 weakness to Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:27:53 No.16890313 Report

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>>16890261
It's gonna be an event move just wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:27:57 No.16890314 Report

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>>16890291
M-Banette and M-Mawile should have been regular evos to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:28:04 No.16890318 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890307
learn to catch a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:30:30 No.16890360 Report

Quoted By: >>16890453

>>16889269
it brought a lot of great things

I have some complaints like how silly "mega evolutions" sound, and the entire concept itself is very shallowly thought, i.e. outclassed mega evolutions, or so strong that the normal Pokemon will never see use anymore (Mawile). I wish they were all like Mega Venusaur where both the mega evolution and the normal Pokemon itself are both equally viable with different niches.

And most importantly, the region itself is a disappointment (although an improvement over Unova's literal circle).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:30:42 No.16890364 Report

Quoted By: >>16890657

>>16889530
>Dark types were already strong

There's like 2 Dark types in OU versus like 9 Psychic types. Not to mention almost every good Psychic or Ghost gets Focus Blast and now Dazzling Gleam as well to screw over Dark types.

If you're not named TTar then Dark type is basically a curse, and they nerfed it for no fucking reason this gen. On top of that, the only buff it got was also given to Ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:33:28 No.16890411 Report

Quoted By: >>16890455 >>16890477

>>16890222
Typlosion gains ground typing and new ability similar to Normalize, Aerilate, Pixilate, Refrigerate which will make all Normal-type into ground type and give them a 30% boost

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:34:56 No.16890435 Report

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>honchkrow gets nothing again
I'm not even surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:35:52 No.16890453 Report

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>>16890360
my main complaints about this gen are these >>16889417

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:35:54 No.16890455 Report

Quoted By: >>16890545

>>16890411
Just give him Earth Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:37:34 No.16890477 Report

Quoted By: >>16890545

>>16890411
can't wait for water

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:38:46 No.16890499 Report

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>>16890233
The difference being that metagross is being kept good by sheer brute force, it has nothing special for him exept being metagross, wich mean being a train on the physical side. It has being shitted on several times but has remained in OU by it's genderless balls alone.
Sceptile was good on it's own way, but with the types split It lost it's signature and went to shit, it was shitted on once and couldn't stand it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:39:35 No.16890515 Report

Quoted By: >>16890536

>>16889269

No, because Gen V still happened to the franchise.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:40:31 No.16890529 Report

Quoted By: >>16890562

>>16888921
>It gets Dragon Pulse via TM already
>wants it to be a egg move

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:41:00 No.16890535 Report

Quoted By: >>16890567

>>16889161
have you seen the delphox line? its not just grass anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:41:02 No.16890536 Report

Quoted By: >>16890570

>>16890515
IV*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:41:45 No.16890545 Report

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>>16890455
It can get it via breeding next gen.

>>16890477
Oh hush you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:42:32 No.16890562 Report

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>>16890529
Guess what chucklefuck. Dragon Pulse isn't a TM in XY. Do you even play this game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:42:51 No.16890567 Report

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>>16890535
Samurott is so viable!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:42:58 No.16890570 Report

Quoted By: >>16890576 >>16890577

>>16890536
>Special/physical split vs powercreep the meta

geez i wonder...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:43:43 No.16890576 Report

Quoted By: >>16890608 >>16890671

>>16890570
>shitty pokemon vs. great pokemon

geez i wonder....

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:43:46 No.16890577 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890570
It was the jews!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:45:44 No.16890608 Report

Quoted By: >>16890655 >>16890673

>>16890576
>useful but ugly pokemon vs great designs but shitty movepools/abilitites

well, this is in fact a hard choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:47:23 No.16890655 Report

Quoted By: >>16890777 >>16890806

>>16890608
I don't know weather you are trying to say gen V mons are ugly but shitty, or OP but ugly, but either way, you are wrong, being as it's gen V had great looking mons that were for the most part useful, while gen IV had a dex full of shit while most of them were shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:47:24 No.16890657 Report

Quoted By: >>16890824

>>16890364
Dark is still a nice defensive type though.

Mandibuzz does pretty awesome nullifying the fighting and bug weakness of its dark type. It can tank an ice beam as well depending on the foe in the OU environment, and having roost certainly helps.

That thing doesn't deserve to be stuck in NU even without the Knock off and Overcoat buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:48:11 No.16890671 Report

Quoted By: >>16890680

>>16890576
>best starter trio (overall) vs worst starter trio (period)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:48:23 No.16890673 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890608
>great designs but shitty movepools/abilitites
This gets me every time.
Then I discovered contest. Shame they didn't become a staple to the series.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:48:58 No.16890680 Report

Quoted By: >>16890696 >>16891542

>>16890671
>best starter trio
>the one that included infernape

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:49:40 No.16890696 Report

Quoted By: >>16890717 >>16890730

>>16890680
All of Gen 4's starters are amazing, especially Empoleon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:50:40 No.16890717 Report

Quoted By: >>16890726 >>16890752

>>16890696
>infernape
>amazing
amazingly ugly perhaps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:51:20 No.16890726 Report

Quoted By: >>16890748

>>16890717
I thought he looked great, not fucking emperor penguin with blade wings and a trident beak amazing, but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:51:39 No.16890730 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890696
>empoleon
mah nigga, torterra gets a good mention too as second coolest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:52:19 No.16890748 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890726
all monkeys are shit eating faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:52:36 No.16890752 Report

Quoted By: >>16890780 >>16890847

>>16890717
>not liking Infernape
Its sure as a hell of a lot better than Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:53:38 No.16890777 Report

Quoted By: >>16890803 >>16890875 >>16890903

>>16890655
At least Gen4 didn't suddenly outclass a huge chunk of the classics.

Flygon still had a presence even when Garchomp was around. Now there's no point using it when you can use Hydreigon instead.

There's also Machamp as well because of that ugly shit named Conkeldurr. Machamp's pretty ugly as well, but at least he's easier on the eyes and has some nostalgia value.

There's also Volcarona, outclasses a fair number of neat Fire Pokemon as well, though at least that has a neat design.

They just needed to tone it down, it was too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:53:45 No.16890780 Report

Quoted By: >>16890815 >>16890840

>>16890752
>liking Infernape
well I guess it's better than fatass charizard, but that's not saying much.

Most fire starters are pretty ass.

water starter master race

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:54:48 No.16890803 Report

Quoted By: >>16890941

>>16890777
>and has some nostalgia value
opinion 100% discarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:54:56 No.16890806 Report

Quoted By: >>16890845 >>16890959

>>16890655
I was comparing gen IV and VI
Gen 4 had awful designs imo but Mamoswine, Gastrodon, Gliscor, Bronzong, Garchomp, Infernape, the lake trio, Lucario, Magnezone, Toxicroak and Cresselia, and some of the crossgen evos are either strong or have their niches. VI gen mons on the other hand are a clusterfuck of moves(Delphox, Pangoro, Chestnaught ecc), abilities(again, Delphox), stats, typing (Aurorus)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:55:19 No.16890815 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890780
>tfw love fire pokemon
>end up picking a water starter most the time
the last 3 gens, man

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:55:39 No.16890824 Report

Quoted By: >>16890866 >>16890904

>>16890657
>Dark is still a nice defensive type though

Its only two resistances are essentially the same thing, and an immunity to Psychic isn't good when they all have coverage that can OHKO it. And now it has another weakness to deal with as well.

Its only good for STAB on Pursuit/Sucker Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:56:27 No.16890840 Report

Quoted By: >>16890883

>>16890780
>water starter master race
You see we could be the best of friends if you just stop talking shit about Infernape. Its literally the only fire starter I like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:56:39 No.16890845 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890806
oh, that's a fine opinion then, I only disagree with infernape and lucario, but that's all opinion m8

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:56:47 No.16890847 Report

Quoted By: >>16890877

>>16890752
>Its sure as a hell of a lot better than Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:57:56 No.16890866 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890824
well I suppose I'm just misinterpreting Mandibuzz's awesome natural bulk as a result of her typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:58:12 No.16890875 Report

Quoted By: >>16890941

>>16890777
>has some nostalgia value.
opinion completely disregarded
Being honest with you, I chuckled when I came to that part. I can't believe you using nostalgia value unironically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:58:21 No.16890877 Report

Quoted By: >>16890934

>>16890847
>implying it's not
S_____ R____

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 02:58:45 No.16890883 Report

Quoted By: >>16890988

>>16890840
I only somewhat like typhlosion not much, he's pretty shitty but at least he looks decent quilava looks better and delphox, because nigga is a wizard.

the only good grass type starters are venusaur and torterra.

there isn't a single water starter I dislike, and one of them is my favorite pokemon period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:00:09 No.16890903 Report

Quoted By: >>16891018

>>16890777
>using mixed/special flygon ever
>implying Machamp and Conk don't have different niches
>volcarona outclassing what, Yanmega? Not any fire types surely

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:00:14 No.16890904 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890824
I thought that dark was supposed to be offensive to KO Psychics and Ghosts based on their Defense stat... Which doesn't make any sense...since some of the Ghost types have high Defense...

also
>No Moves..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:01:56 No.16890934 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890877

Splash Raichu?

That shit is the most OP as fuck things ever!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:02:06 No.16890941 Report

Quoted By: >>16890986 >>16891352

>>16890803
>>16890875
b-but I was serious

People will have attachments to the old Pokemon designs even when they're not really that great in hindsight (Machamp line is creepy and one of the humanoid Pokemon abominations, but at the same time it has its charm just because of familiarity), only because it's what they were exposed to as a kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:03:03 No.16890959 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890806
Vespiquen is good to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:04:08 No.16890986 Report

Quoted By: >>16891006

>>16890941
It's the fact that you are serious that makes it worse.

not to mention conkeldurr and machamp have total different roles, and conkeldurr looks amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:04:15 No.16890988 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890883
>the only good grass type starters are venusaur and torterra.
Agreed. Grovyle is where I stop with the treecko line.
>there isn't a single water starter I dislike, and one of them is my favorite pokemon period.
I will never defend samurotts design. Every other water starter I'm behind you 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:05:17 No.16891006 Report

Quoted By: >>16891025 >>16891050

>>16890986
>conkeldurr and machamp have total different roles
you're right
>and conkeldurr looks amazing
you what

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:05:53 No.16891018 Report

Quoted By: >>16891155

>>16890903
Flygon was the only one with a Draco Meteor + U-Turn combo then. It's something that will catch a lot of people off guard when they come in expecting a Choice Band/Scarf.

Even with 80 base Sp.Atk, it packs a punch simply because of Draco Meteor being Draco Meteor, and you'll be able to switch out nicely with a U-Turn or be able to continue being a bit of a threat on the physical side.

Now it's a shitty idea though, because you can use Hydreigon instead, and because of all the new bulky Pokemon that will fuck Flygon up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:06:10 No.16891025 Report

Quoted By: >>16891077 >>16891110

>>16891006
if you don't like conkeldurr then you're a fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:07:20 No.16891050 Report

Quoted By: >>16891077 >>16891110

>>16891006
Not even the guy you're replying to, but Conk is cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:08:54 No.16891077 Report

Quoted By: >>16891097 >>16891130

>>16891025
>>16891050
I just don't like its fucking face

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:10:01 No.16891097 Report

Quoted By: >>16891114

>>16891077
I don't like your fucking face

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:10:50 No.16891110 Report

Quoted By:

>>16891050
>>16891025
>tfw I didn't like it till I saw it in 3D

I don't know it looked disgusting as a sprite. I hated it then I saw it in x and y...

>how can you hate this bamf

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:11:03 No.16891114 Report

Quoted By:

>>16891097

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:11:42 No.16891130 Report

Quoted By:

>>16891077
me too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:13:14 No.16891155 Report

Quoted By:

>>16891018
Flygon with Tinted Lens instead of Levitate + Stone Edge and Dragon Rush would have a reason to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:13:24 No.16891159 Report

Quoted By:

0 SpA Life Orb Flygon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Cresselia: 121-144 (27.2 - 32.4%) -- 63.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Life Orb Flygon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 101-120 (30.2 - 35.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Life Orb Flygon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Suicune: 134-160 (33.1 - 39.6%) -- 15.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Life Orb Flygon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Vaporeon: 157-187 (33.8 - 40.3%) -- 38.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Life Orb Flygon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Hippowdon: 199-234 (47.3 - 55.7%) -- 18.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Nah, it was still an awful idea even back then.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:21:58 No.16891298 Report

Quoted By:

>>16889593
>Sadlygrove

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:24:31 No.16891352 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890941
>People will have attachments to the old Pokemon designs even when they're not really that great in hindsight (Machamp line is creepy and one of the humanoid Pokemon abominations

Wow, shut the fuck up faggot, Machamp is one of the best designed pokemon and you don't know shit I don't give a fuck if it's christmas I will slap your shit you god damn pussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Dec 2013 03:34:40 No.16891542 Report

Quoted By:

>>16890680
But infernape is a great starter, best fire starter easily.

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