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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:45:55 No.16977395 View View Reply Original Report

How in the dicks do you deal with this fucker?

I try using Heatran, which works decently, but then it just U-Turns out like an asshole and Dugtrio's there to trap me. It carries bad teams by itself and excuses shitty play, which is what pisses me off. Is there any answer to it, other than Heatran and Rotom-H?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:46:16 No.16977399 Report

Quoted By: >>16977428

>>16977395
wait for it to be banned to ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:47:34 No.16977425 Report

Quoted By: >>16977447 >>16977480 >>16981750

Magnezone

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:47:43 No.16977428 Report

Quoted By: >>16977462 >>16977479

>>16977399
>two months at the least because the OU Judenrat wants to test fucking Deo-S first
Yeah, fuck that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:49:05 No.16977447 Report

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>>16977425
>U-Turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:50:00 No.16977462 Report

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>>16977428
stop playing OU then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:50:39 No.16977479 Report

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>>16977428
>implying Deoxys S isn't worse than Genesect

Git gud, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:50:47 No.16977480 Report

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>>16977425
+1 252 SpA Genesect Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Magnezone: 302-356 (87.7 - 103.4%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:54:13 No.16977526 Report

Quoted By: >>16977546 >>16977550 >>16977563 >>16977623

I'm not saying Genesect isn't a faggot, in fact I'm sure he is, my only question is in what way is he such an issue in OU? In my personal experience I rarely see him do much more than U-Turn out and then by the time I see him again I don't have too much trouble taking him out.

What makes him such a threat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:55:22 No.16977546 Report

Quoted By: >>16977623

>>16977526
try getting out of 1500 first
it uturns out of any check and kills anything else with download boost + amazing coverage moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:55:34 No.16977550 Report

Quoted By: >>16977623

>>16977526
great movepool
amazing sweeping stats
great typing
can go to +2 attack/speed for one turn of setup if running that set
120BP STAB 100% accurate attack
uturn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:56:13 No.16977563 Report

Quoted By: >>16977623

>>16977526
Scarf+Near perfect coverage.
Flamethrower BoltBeam combo is something every special attacker wish they could have. Then you slap U turn onto him and he's good to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:57:59 No.16977587 Report

Quoted By: >>16977647 >>16977690 >>16977723

>>16977395
Imposter Ditto

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 17:58:13 No.16977588 Report

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Nothing. He is uncounterable and uncheckable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 18:00:17 No.16977623 Report

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>>16977526
All of this >>16977546 >>16977550 >>16977563 plus the fact that it excuses shitty players to go past 2k and beyond just because they have Genesect is why it's such a huge faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 18:01:41 No.16977647 Report

Quoted By: >>16977690 >>16977723

>>16977587
/thread
think about it - it can kill itself easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 18:04:15 No.16977690 Report

Quoted By: >>16980997

>>16977647
>>16977587
But Genesect is usually scarfed. So even if your Ditto is scarfed too, you want to leave winning or losing to a speed tie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 18:05:39 No.16977723 Report

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>>16977647
>>16977587
but most genesects are scarfed, so even if your ditto is also scarfed you still have to deal with the speed tie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 18:06:17 No.16977742 Report

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run scarf flygon with fire punch and hope your opponent is a cocky idiot.

that or mixed scarf azelf with flamethrower

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 20:58:31 No.16980925 Report

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>hurr durr special scarf better send out my special wall
>fuckin gear shift
yeah nah fuck genesect

Jordan 4270-1784-0816 Poison (kakuna, venomoth, ????)

Jordan 4270-1784-0816 Poison (kakuna, venomoth, ????) Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:01:32 No.16980997 Report

Quoted By: >>16981302

>>16977690
never used imposter ditto but quick claw?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:04:49 No.16981081 Report

Quoted By: >>16981185

Personally, I use Tornadus-T with an assault vest as my lead. Wait for them to switch in genesect, tank the ice beam with the vest, kill it with heat wave, and heal off the damage with regenerator. Works every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:08:55 No.16981185 Report

Quoted By: >>16981314

>>16981081
That may be because Tornadus T is also an unbanned Uber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:14:15 No.16981302 Report

Quoted By: >>16981438

>>16980997
Quick Claw's also luck-based, and even more in the opponent's favor since it's only a 20% shot of you going first instead of 50%.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:15:00 No.16981314 Report

Quoted By: >>16981346 >>16981367

>>16981185
You know what they say "fight robotic bugs with fire." Why should you have to suffer from something that shouldnt belong in OU when there are answers to deal with it?

On a side note, I'll never understand why people use their mega slot on charizard X when black kyurem is OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:16:28 No.16981346 Report

Quoted By: >>16981473

>>16981314
Probably because Kyurem B can't fill four moveslots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:17:41 No.16981367 Report

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>>16981314
Probably because Kyurem-B and Xzard are utterly different.

Kyurem-B may have balls deep stats but Xzard has a way better movepool, burn immunity, and can act as a better mixed attacker.

Jordan 4270-1784-0816 Poison (kakuna, venomoth, ????)

Jordan 4270-1784-0816 Poison (kakuna, venomoth, ????) Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:21:12 No.16981438 Report

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>>16981302
lame

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:22:46 No.16981466 Report

Quoted By: >>16981580

spam sacred fire with scarf entei, of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:23:03 No.16981473 Report

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>>16981346
In my experience, a lack of movepool is made up for just fine with that monstrous 170 attack. You dont really need to hit for super effective, and with ice, electric, and dragon moves, you can quite often. Dont get me wrong, charizard X is more versatile and definitely has a better movepool, but why run one mega pokemon over one mega and giant beatstick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:28:48 No.16981580 Report

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>>16981466
>Entei now has moves

It makes me happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:32:37 No.16981661 Report

Quoted By: >>16981687 >>16981745

The Choice Scarf set isn't even the most dangerous.
The ShiftStinger one is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:33:41 No.16981687 Report

Quoted By: >>16981731 >>16981741 >>16981807

>>16981661
>ShiftStinger
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:36:05 No.16981731 Report

Quoted By: >>16981761

>>16981687
Shift Gear+Fell Stinger

>dealing with a +4/5 attack genesect at +2 speed who isn't weak to any form of priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:36:31 No.16981741 Report

Quoted By: >>16981761 >>16982010

>>16981687
Shift Gear/Extremespeed/Fell Stinger/Shadow Claw. LO or Lum Berry as item.

Switch in against something that gives you a +1 attack boost from Download, use Shift Gear, KO something with Fell Stinger and sweep with Extremespeed. Shadow Claw for ghosts and has perfect coverage with the other 2 moves. KO with Fell Stinger ehenever possible for extra boosts.
Works well late-game against weakened targets in Fell Stinger KO range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:36:41 No.16981745 Report

Quoted By: >>16981762

>>16981661
ShiftStinger is so easy to deal with
Try the OrlandoStingKing set, climbed to 2.5k alone using it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:36:58 No.16981750 Report

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>>16977425
Don't talk to this faggot. First time playing competitive pokemon, it seems.

Slughy 3454-0917-9795

Slughy 3454-0917-9795 Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:37:32 No.16981761 Report

Quoted By:

>>16981731
>>16981741
...eew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:37:38 No.16981762 Report

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>>16981745
> OrlandoStingKing set
I am convinced you are making this up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:39:34 No.16981807 Report

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>>16981687
It's the Shift Gear set but with Fell Stinger.
At +2 and with a LO boost Fell Stinger does surprising amounts of damage and each time you KO something with it you get a +2 attack boost.
Pair that with Extremespeed and Shadow Claw and it's pretty much unstoppable unless you face Sableye or Mega Banette.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:47:38 No.16982010 Report

Quoted By: >>16982041

>>16981741
Except it doesn't get Shift Gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Dec 2013 21:49:03 No.16982041 Report

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>>16982010
Yeah I miss 2012 too.

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