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Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:41:41 No.16993056 View View Reply Original Report

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we need:
>Design revisions for Vectol line, Phlask line, and Diloweed line
>Region details & Mapping (Interiors needed!)
>Sprites
>Movepools, Stats & Abilities
>All the rest of the dex info (?)

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>We have art for the entire dex, this image just only shows whats been Sugi'd (check the wiki!)
>Spriters make original sprites! no copying GF or sizing down art!
>We are not adding Fairy Type or Mega Evolutions.

Clash's art folder(http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=336):
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Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:44:57 No.16993128 Report

Quoted By: >>16993871 >>16993913

>>16993056
Post demo census:
https://www.surveymonk
ey.com/s/wecommunitynow

Puffin stats survey:
https://www.surveymonk
ey.com/s/THB8KLT

Koblin Growth Rate Survey:https://www.surveymo
nkey.com/s/MKPNP5J

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:48:49 No.16993228 Report

Quoted By: >>16993265 >>16993871 >>16993944

>reposting
ya or nay? trying to make bluffin useable without just making it a fast sweeper like much of our dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:49:46 No.16993251 Report

Quoted By: >>16993520 >>16993677

AH a new thread! I think I will start this one with a poem reading!

>Your eyes filled with a kindness
>Your comprehension, great
>Your laughter shines through madness
>I think it might be fate...

>Around you, I am dimwitted
>But more funny by compare
>I think our minds were fitted
>And we would make a good pair

>Although, near you Im not smart
>Very creative i can be
>And I am sure in my heart,
>I wonder if you too love me...

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:49:52 No.16993258 Report

Quoted By: >>16993812 >>17000820

so, has there been any new (useful) plot discussion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:50:11 No.16993265 Report

Quoted By: >>16993309 >>16993318

>>16993228
looking good, i'm also assuming that you'd get blizzard or ice beam as a tm and it could learn them, just thought there wouldn't be much point in giving it blizzard/ice beam if they were tms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:52:06 No.16993309 Report

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>>16993265
you know pokemon can learn moves that are also tm moves... right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:52:36 No.16993318 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993265
blizzard is indeed a tm and burrmudail does indeed learn it. hail, acrobatics, and rest are also tms it can learn.

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ

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Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:53:03 No.16993328 Report

Quoted By: >>16993373 >>16993375 >>16993392 >>16993577

Reposting sprites that were done last thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:54:59 No.16993373 Report

Quoted By: >>16993577

>>16993328
how do you even do that? it looks great.

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ

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Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:55:00 No.16993375 Report

Quoted By: >>16993497

>>16993328

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:56:03 No.16993392 Report

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>>16993328
Also it's comparing height, new isn't new. Small is new, big is not new.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 05:59:57 No.16993497 Report

Quoted By: >>16993532 >>16993574 >>16993577

>>16993375
imo he needs teeth

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:01:03 No.16993520 Report

Quoted By: >>16993574

>>16993251
Why?
What for?
Where from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:01:32 No.16993532 Report

Quoted By: >>16993637

>>16993497
I say give him one or two teeth like some crazy hicker/gold miner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:03:21 No.16993574 Report

Quoted By: >>16993648 >>16993677

>>16993497
that sprite has always bugged me, it seems a little fuzzy or something

>>16993520
oh that's just a poem raptor wrote, I bet it was about me :3

Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ

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Sketcher !!sfJpV0NfqCJ Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:03:40 No.16993577 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993373
It's honestly not as hard as it looks. Editing sprites is actually very easy, I'd encourage you to try. From scratch is harder, though.

>>16993328
Smoothed the tail lines.

>>16993497
I'm ok with this.
If anyone would mind trying to get rid of that pillow shaded head style I'd greatly appreciate it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:06:24 No.16993637 Report

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>>16993532

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:06:48 No.16993648 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993574
He wrote a poem

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:07:44 No.16993673 Report

Quoted By: >>16993741 >>16993753

>>16993056
Hey project /vp/, long time worker here.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me why I get this error when I try to start up the demo. I get through the title screen but when I press enter this pops up without fail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:07:50 No.16993677 Report

Quoted By: >>16993729

>>16993574
>>16993251
And people say dunky was the attention-starved one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:10:47 No.16993729 Report

Quoted By: >>16993757

>>16993677
everyone knows that guy called "anon" was an attention whore, he posts constantly!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:11:26 No.16993741 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993673
obviously you need to rename the file something other than nil.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:12:12 No.16993753 Report

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>>16993673
You'd have to wait until either Pawter or Red arrives, I think it's been addressed though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:12:29 No.16993757 Report

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>>16993729
>>16993729
samefag

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:16:07 No.16993812 Report

Quoted By: >>16993843 >>16993870 >>16993901 >>16993905 >>16993921 >>16993939 >>16993960

>>16993258
not really, we need to introduce norrington yes? and add dialogue foretelling him perhaps? let's not get ahead of ourselves. we always hear of the team first too? so in this case a company/group. steel city seem right

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:17:13 No.16993843 Report

Quoted By: >>16999881

>>16993812
my sprite todo list

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:18:19 No.16993870 Report

Quoted By: >>16994074

>>16993812
Northington isn't even confirmed yet, that's how bad we are for plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:18:21 No.16993871 Report

Quoted By: >>16993944

>>16993128
>Puffin stats survey:
All of these options are terrible so I just put current. Why isn't there a comment box??

>>16993228
This is much more reasonable.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

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Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:18:28 No.16993874 Report

Quoted By: >>16994444

Call the cops and see who gives a fuck; properly fits in the the tileset and everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:19:36 No.16993901 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993812
Plot and mapping should be our number one concern now.
Unfortunately, plot talk ends up being a huge clusterfuck where everyone is pissed off at each other. But it's neccesary, so we should start getting back on to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:19:46 No.16993905 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993812
The star needs to be removed from route 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:20:18 No.16993913 Report

Quoted By: >>16993944 >>16993946 >>16993980

>>16993128
What the fuck are those urls? They don't properly link me to the surveys. Nondell, pls.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:20:42 No.16993921 Report

Quoted By: >>16993965 >>16993999 >>16994006 >>16994044 >>16994211 >>16994492 >>16994720

>>16993812
>route 7 not mapped
>implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:21:26 No.16993939 Report

Quoted By: >>16994072 >>16994074

>>16993812
i wrote up a plot a while back. it had a number of things but one aspect was that northington is met at the observatory. it seems like an appropriate enough setting to meet an academic man. also i don't really know what other plot significance it would have...

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:21:36 No.16993944 Report

Quoted By: >>16993980

>>16993871

>>16993228 is better but I didn't make that survey.

I'd talk to the surveyor when he gets here.

>>16993913
Copy and paste corner to corner, it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:21:42 No.16993946 Report

Quoted By: >>16993980

>>16993913
>he can't highlight, ctrl c, ctrl t, ctrl v

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:22:25 No.16993960 Report

Quoted By: >>16993994 >>16994074

>>16993812
>steel city seem right
maybe a few mooks can be trying to steal some parts/tools from the factory? Maybe either just after you beat Feona or just as you reach her podium an NPC worker runs up and says some rough looking guys are trying to take their tools, so she asks for your help to stop them (either because she was impressed with how well you fought against her, or because 'the faster we take these guys out the sooner we can get on with our battle')

after defeating the mooks one of them mentions having to "hurry off before their boss gets pissed" or something.

maybe before entering the gym you see Ricardo trying to steal shit too, so when the workers show up to warn about the mooks outside the player will assume it's Ricardo coming back for another round

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:22:40 No.16993965 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993921
That is beautiful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:22:49 No.16993968 Report

Quoted By:

Reminder that these are the skeletons we have to work with.
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/The_Plot

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:23:24 No.16993980 Report

Quoted By: >>16994103

>>16993944
>>16993913
Oh fuck that doesn't work, well >>16993946 does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:23:50 No.16993994 Report

Quoted By: >>16994019

>>16993960
>feona
>not stella

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:24:02 No.16993999 Report

Quoted By: >>16994492

>>16993921
>suburbs
i like this map

also i know there is a mew under that truck i just know it

actually...has anybody brought up the possibility of actually having a pokemon under a truck? maybe somebody lost his cheshade and you have to find it and low and behold it's under a truck.

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:24:09 No.16994006 Report

Quoted By: >>16994056 >>16994098 >>16994492

>>16993921
So, I'm the main map guy from PokeAus, and was just dropping in here since I heard some hubbub about you guys having a demo. And I have to say, that is a pretty impressive-looking route. Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:24:59 No.16994019 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993994
>atleast that was your only complaint.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:25:45 No.16994038 Report

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:25:58 No.16994044 Report

Quoted By: >>16994098 >>16994492

>>16993921
>suburbs
please tell me we're gonna use this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:26:23 No.16994056 Report

Quoted By: >>16994147 >>16994245

>>16994006
Yes, our newsest demo was just released yesterday.

Also tell foxxy I need to respond to the email he sent me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:26:52 No.16994072 Report

Quoted By: >>16994163

>>16993939
>one aspect was that northington is met at the observatory
ODK why he would be there... it's supposed to be abandoned, there's not exactly anything that would be there of use to him. It would make more sense to encounter him berating one of his Admin's after successfully storming the admin's stronghold (maybe the oil rig) only to have him slip away before you can catch him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:26:52 No.16994074 Report

Quoted By: >>16994093

>>16993870
>>16993939
>>16993960
yup norrington is confirmed, valid ideas. but yeas, starting from a first exposire, look how good it has made ric. we argue on how ric will be farther down the line, but we need a beggining, we know people want the die hard all about money to be purpose whether hidden or in plain sight. build floor first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:26:53 No.16994077 Report

Quoted By: >>16994111

> Dat Evil Team's Grunt's Battle Theme
WHERE FIGHTAN!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:27:27 No.16994093 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994074
>yup norrington is confirmed
No, he's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:27:37 No.16994098 Report

Quoted By: >>16994122 >>16994245

>>16994006
>So, I'm the main map guy from PokeAus
why did you even include this in your post? btw i'm a girl.

>>16994044
it seems well liked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:27:55 No.16994103 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993980
Heh, that anon sure helped! Btw, contributed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:28:22 No.16994111 Report

Quoted By: >>16994160

>>16994077
which one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:28:57 No.16994122 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994098
It is. I hope it is used, it's good to go! Just insert citizens in it and we're done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:30:11 No.16994147 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994056
>tell this guy I need to do something

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:30:39 No.16994160 Report

Quoted By: >>16994168 >>16994180 >>16994283

>>16994111
This one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:30:46 No.16994163 Report

Quoted By: >>16994192 >>16994268 >>16994296

>>16994072
what is the point of the abandoned observatory? maybe instead of being abandoned it is condemned and locked up. when you get there the locks could be broken. he could be using the telescope to try and find the lost city or whatever. regardless i feel like it would be nice to introduce him early. i also think it would be good if he wasn't immediately shown to be an evil guy. you could talk to him, he would lie to you about what he was doing, and tell you about how he is friends with mangrove. maybe you would even do a fetch quest for him before discovering that he is up to no good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:31:11 No.16994168 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994160
oh yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:31:55 No.16994180 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994160
Wat.

> Needs major edits

I personally think it's good to be used as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:32:19 No.16994192 Report

Quoted By: >>16994230

>>16994163
Abandoned because abandonned is cool and creepy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:33:04 No.16994211 Report

Quoted By: >>16994492

>>16993921
wow didn't know. very nice. i'll make it yellow, some people may still want to add features, and change tiles to more custom. so yellow means close, green means basically set just tiles to change, yellow means tiles are made, green is all custom requests filled. stars basically mean map is approved, tiles get stars later as they always improve. art rarelly gets surveyed so most will stay the yellow till i delete a completed row.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:33:47 No.16994230 Report

Quoted By: >>16994258 >>16994324 >>16994331 >>17000869 >>17001360

>>16994192
>Abandoned because abandonned is cool and creepy.
what is the purpose of the location though? it's a dead end route so unless there is a reason to go there it seems superfluous.

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC

SEQguy !!q/bO+XgZdBC Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:34:29 No.16994245 Report

Quoted By: >>16994307

>>16994056
Alright. I'll let Foxy know, don't worry.

>>16994098
Because deal with it.

But really, I put that in there because I wanted to pay whoever made that map a compliment, map-person to map-person. Kind of stupid in hindsight, I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:35:14 No.16994258 Report

Quoted By: >>16994380

>>16994230
we can make it an important part of the evil team's goal.
We can fill in the gaps.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:35:34 No.16994268 Report

Quoted By: >>16994380

>>16994163
>what is the point of the abandoned observatory?
it's a sciency place for our sciency pokemon to hang out... Try not to be so new

>probably doesn't even know about the dragon burial ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:36:21 No.16994283 Report

Quoted By: >>16994303

>>16994160
Fuck yeah tribal house

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:36:48 No.16994296 Report

Quoted By: >>16994380

>>16994163
Observatory telescopes don't work like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:37:03 No.16994303 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994283
I know, so digging the beat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:37:12 No.16994307 Report

Quoted By: >>16994326

wasn't there a route that was going to possibly have billboards leading up to the industrial city?

>>16994245
>Kind of stupid in hindsight, I know.
yeeeep

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:38:09 No.16994324 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994230
Several suggestions have included it as a place where ED appears.

Since we don't have any of the plot filled out, the possibilities are endless. But it is ambientally better than not abandoned, so it's almost certainly going to remain abandoned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:38:12 No.16994326 Report

Quoted By: >>16994387 >>16994492

>>16994307
that was a different version of route 7.
Not sure where it is though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:38:33 No.16994331 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994230
we wanted exportability in our game... and I'm pretty sure it's one of the few places to find a few specific pokemon... also it ties into proposed side quests involving our space themed mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:40:05 No.16994380 Report

Quoted By: >>16994423 >>16994445 >>16994508

>>16994296
yeah...i know. but there has to be something in an abandoned observatory that could be used for evil.

>>16994268
>t's a sciency place for our sciency pokemon to hang out...
that's not a purpose that's a description

>>16994258
it's just so close to the beginning i think maybe it could be the location of our main characters first encounter with the evil team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:40:27 No.16994387 Report

Quoted By: >>16994448 >>16994483 >>16994492

>>16994326
I know of about 3 different route 7s, we're gonna need a survey

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:41:54 No.16994423 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994380
>that's not a purpose that's a description
it's a description of it's purpose. It's a neat place for exploring and might have some rare mons, it's like half the areas in any pokemon game.

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Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:43:04 No.16994444 Report

Quoted By: >>16994467

>>16993874
revised

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:43:08 No.16994445 Report

Quoted By: >>16994544

>>16994380
it's basically the electrical facility from R/B/Y R/S/E, it's not plot relevant, but it's got nifty treasures and pokemon in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:43:10 No.16994448 Report

Quoted By: >>16994492 >>16994518

>>16994387
go nab em off foolz and i'll send em to draik to survey

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Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:44:12 No.16994467 Report

Quoted By: >>16994497 >>16994544

>>16994444
And fucking done.

I think this will be able to be used properly in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:45:06 No.16994483 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994387
i prefer the suburbs map, but i liked the idea of there being some billboards on the route. the industrial city is our largest city i think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:45:42 No.16994492 Report

Quoted By: >>16994511 >>16994802

>>16994448
>>16994387
>>16994326
>>16994211
>>16994044
>>16994006
>>16993999
>>16993921
Keep in mind we still need crossroads, and depending on the visual style of that route 7 will need to match to a degree

IMO it doesn't make logical sense for crossroads to be right next to suburbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:45:51 No.16994497 Report

Quoted By: >>16994550

>>16994467
god... it's overworld 'follow' sprite is gonna be atrocious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:46:12 No.16994508 Report

Quoted By: >>16994572

>>16994380
>but there has to be
There doesn't have to be anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:46:16 No.16994511 Report

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>>16994492
but it does make sense for suburbs to be right next to the big metropolis.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:46:31 No.16994518 Report

Quoted By: >>16994621

>>16994448
I'd be digging deep, those maps are 4-5 months old

plus I'm sugi-ing mosshroom as we speak, also repost #n of lumishroom, will wiki it unless there are any problems anyone has

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:47:55 No.16994544 Report

Quoted By: >>16994571 >>16994613

>>16994467
i think mapping tiles can only have a max of 4 animation frames. at least that's what i thought.

>>16994445
i had forgotten that the power plant was useless. it's much later in the game though.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:48:05 No.16994550 Report

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>>16994497
It doesn't have to stay on that block.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:49:09 No.16994571 Report

Quoted By: >>16994593

>>16994544
Good thing that's four frames then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:49:09 No.16994572 Report

Quoted By: >>16994692

>>16994508
>There doesn't have to be anything.
you're right. we don't even need a plot. just a bunch of random places with wild pokemon.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:50:20 No.16994593 Report

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>>16994571
Actually it's six frames but it uses four sprites, if Foster's animation worked this should too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:51:27 No.16994613 Report

Quoted By: >>16994639 >>16994802

>>16994544
Was sprout tower optional? I don't remember ever attempting to continue the game without visiting it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:51:37 No.16994621 Report

Quoted By: >>16995216

>>16994518
Shading still doesn't look very Sugi
Needs moar contrast

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:52:18 No.16994639 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994613
You needed to do it before you could fight the gym leader in HG/SS I can't remember about the originals though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:54:42 No.16994692 Report

Quoted By: >>16994988

>>16994572
there's plenty of other areas that make more sense to have plot, there's no reason to force an encounter with the evil team in an area that was specifically designed to simply be an explorable detour area when other places equally fine exist.

Also, since we're arguing, there's no reason to introduce Norty so early, he has 3 admins, there's no reason for him to be walking around in public doing mook work when his lackies can easily do it for him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 06:55:48 No.16994720 Report

Quoted By:

>>16993921
Has anybody got all the attempted maps?
Would be nice to have them uploaded to the wiki even if they're not finished.
I want to see what we've got so far.
I remember an anon or somebody doing one of the early wet routes with lots of bridges, does anyone have that?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:00:52 No.16994802 Report

Quoted By: >>16994834 >>16994840 >>16994883 >>16995029

>>16994613
both the sprout tower and the power plant are legendary locations

>>16994492
everybody is going to get mad at me for this...but we could just make route 7 longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:02:48 No.16994834 Report

Quoted By: >>16994871

>>16994802
>sprout tower
>legendary location
lel, you're thinking of burned/tin towers.

anyway, whocares? the point is they're not plot critical. The evil team doesn't need to be in every interesting location in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:03:15 No.16994840 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994802
you're thinking of the burned tower and the tin tower, not sprout tower

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:05:01 No.16994871 Report

Quoted By: >>16994965

>>16994834
>lel, you're thinking of burned/tin towers.
why so many towers johto

i don't think we should have the evil team at the obs but i think there should be some point in going there. retrieval of something etc. even if it's not plot oriented. maybe a random scientist npc asks you to help him and offers a reward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:05:47 No.16994883 Report

Quoted By: >>16994992

>>16994802
we had a kinda short route 7, could we not have one run into the burbs with burbs being a separate map?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:09:42 No.16994965 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994871
I agree there should be something that causes you to venture there in the first place, but I don't thin it needs to be a whole side quest (unless someone can design one that's not as boring as finding that fucking scanner in RSE.)

at the least there could be an NPC who mentions going to the observatory to look for moonstones or something and getting scared away by the wild pokemon that have taken over the place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:10:47 No.16994988 Report

Quoted By: >>16995027 >>16995034

>>16994692
I still want northington to be a serious archaeologist with ambition, not an evil big boss thug.
so seeing him doing fieldwork of some sort would be a nice way of introducing him.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:10:55 No.16994992 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994883
maybe the burbs could be the bottom left square of the town?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:11:37 No.16995012 Report

Quoted By: >>16995093

Just shooting some ideas. It's only a short backstory and early game plot.

http://pastebin.com/VU9Vj7NK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:12:21 No.16995027 Report

Quoted By: >>16995151

>>16994988
>seeing him doing fieldwork of some sort would be a nice way of introducing him.
all the more reason to have him not be at the observatory, a place which has nothing to do with archaeology at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:12:24 No.16995029 Report

Quoted By: >>16995056

>>16994802
That just shortens route 9 though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:12:35 No.16995034 Report

Quoted By: >>17000453

>>16994988
i like the idea of him being present throughout the game as a scientist and colleague of mangroves and it isn't until the very end when it becomes clear that he is in charge of the evil team.

i like the idea that you could help him and then learn later that you were helping the wrong guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:13:44 No.16995056 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995029
does route 9 need to be long? is it the daycare route? has it already been mapped?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:15:03 No.16995093 Report

Quoted By: >>16995158

>>16995012
>ricardo involved in evil team stuff
dropped

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:16:46 No.16995151 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995027
yeah, i think the observatory has an admin feel to it. having them both introduced as independent entities seems neat as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:17:01 No.16995158 Report

Quoted By: >>16995228

>>16995093
Try actually reading it.
He's not part of their goal at all, he stumbles upon their operation while on the run from the police.
You end up getting involved because you're chasing him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:19:20 No.16995216 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994621
how's this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:19:42 No.16995228 Report

Quoted By: >>16995249 >>16995269

>>16995158
I read the whole thing, I just can't abide Ricardo being anywhere near the evil team, even as a victim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:20:32 No.16995249 Report

Quoted By: >>16995268 >>16995290

>>16995228
thats fucking stupid.
He's about as involved with the evil team as Blue was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:21:32 No.16995268 Report

Quoted By: >>16995304

>>16995249
and I would rather him be as involved as Wally was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:21:34 No.16995269 Report

Quoted By: >>16995353

>>16995228
i don't really care but it's generally not a good idea to have a story with two antagonists who are completely unrelated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:22:19 No.16995290 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995249
but think about his 14 younger brothers and his tomboy sister

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:22:59 No.16995304 Report

Quoted By: >>16995372 >>16995373

>>16995268
so you want ricardo to take after the worst implemented rival?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:24:53 No.16995353 Report

Quoted By: >>16995423

>>16995269
Ricardo's not an antagonist, he's a rival. He causes some initial drama by steeling your friends pokemon, but by the time the player meets the real evil team he's just a 'shows up for a rematch every once in a while when it's inconvenient' kind of character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:25:53 No.16995372 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995304
wally was awful. but more importantly ricardo is both a rival and an antagonist. silver is the only rival that really makes sense comparison wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:25:55 No.16995373 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995304
>wally=barry

wut?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:29:10 No.16995423 Report

Quoted By: >>16995436 >>16995492 >>16995510

>>16995353
it's just awkward if there is no overlap between the rival and the evil team. there doesn't have to be a connection but there should be some kind of shared space.

for instance, perhaps there are multiple occasions when you have a great chance to stop the evil team and those are the moments when ricardo comes out and challenges you. the evil team would then get away and while ricardo is seemingly unaware that he helped them it makes him a more frustrating character for the player. and of course he would be a douche about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:30:04 No.16995436 Report

Quoted By: >>16995455 >>16995461

>>16995423
>there doesn't have to be a connection but there should be some kind of shared space.
that shared space doesn't have to be at your first encounter with the evil team's leader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:30:50 No.16995455 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995436
who said it did?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:31:25 No.16995461 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995436
what's so bad about that anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:32:56 No.16995492 Report

Quoted By: >>16995614

>>16995423
>it's just awkward if there is no overlap between the rival and the evil team.
I don't see why.
I mean I don't mind ricardo being involved in that part as an introduction to the evil team while you chase him or whatever.
....but what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:34:05 No.16995510 Report

Quoted By: >>16995529

>>16995423
No way.
That's lazy. "You could have gotten them but look who shows up again!" There's no reason for it and they should remain separate. Ricardo isn't evil, he's just a free-spirited guy running on his own morals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:34:59 No.16995529 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995510
i think it should happen once, because it's a good way for him to be a cock. but for it to happen every time, that would just be lazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:37:06 No.16995562 Report

Quoted By: >>16995586

Repost.
I have a Quetzar encounter/plot finale I would like to share and gather opinions on.

Northy and admins assemble three legendary crystals (found in spirit temples but unrelated to spirits) at the observatory during night, causing the rock ruins of El Dorado (ED) to appear at the top of the mountain out of starlight.

You, Mangrove, Sequoia, and friendly rival chase Northington and co. into ED. In the gate, you feel a tremor. You exit and fight the admins, who are on guard, one last time before postage. The sky almost looks like a direct window into space.

Dark tears of starry space are swirling around ED, particularly around temple, where Northy is standing in front of the inanimate Quetz statue with Xotec floating behind him. He takes Xotec out to secure it and will come back for the Quetz, despite Mangrove's protests. Once he exits, the Quetz awakens in stone form and is angry at the continued greed of humans. He chases them out but the golems protect Northington, who laughs and then disappears. This enrages the Quetz, who starts to devastate Urobos with meteors. Pokemon are fighting back, though; a Comossus came out of hiding to throw a massive Protect over the jungle town, the spirits do all they can, etc.

You defy the Quetz, telling it that it has to stop, which drives it into a blind rage and causes the tears in space to explode.

ED is now made out of solid gold and in perfect condition, and you are now out in the middle of space where galaxies and nebulae and stars are everywhere. The Quetz is in space form, and you find it in the high temple towering over a cowering Northington. You step in right at the right moment, fight it, and calm it. It realizes that Pokemon and people were working to protect themselves together and that they are not the greedy civilization it was, so it turns back into stone form and returns ED to Earth.

Postgame, you can return to the ruined ED and turn the Quetz back into space form to access gold ED, where Xotec is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:37:36 No.16995576 Report

Quoted By: >>16995605

Am I the only one who fucking hates northington?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:37:38 No.16995577 Report

Quoted By: >>16995620 >>16995624 >>16995690

>If you guys insist on having Norty at the Observatory...

I think Northington should be encountered separate from the evil team (maybe as a scientist poking around in the forest/library/temple or something) so your fighting the evil team but also encountering this ambiguous/neutral recouring NPC scientist (maybe he sends you on sidequests, asks you to help him do a couple errends) and eventually you find out he's the evil team leader.

Maybe he's a scientist who asks you for help to investigate the Observatory saying something like "My assistants seem to have run off to work on other projects, you seem like a strong trainer, could I impose upon you to help me investigate the abandoned observatory at the end of this rout?"

while you're at the observatory the scientist tells you to go search one side while he searches the other. Ricardo shows up saying he was gonna loot the place but now he'll just fight you instead. After beating Ricardo you go to find the scientist but all you find is a note mentioning that he "didn't find what he was looking for but here's a starpiece for your troubles"

Later when he's revealed to be Northington you find out he was searching the observatory for documents relating to space pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:38:08 No.16995586 Report

Quoted By: >>17000501

>>16995562
tl;dr

>Northy and co. summon ED at the observatory. They take Xotec out of the Quetz's room, which awakens it and angers it at the greed of humans. Northy is protected by the golems and disappears, which causes Quetz to start destroying Urobos (but pokemon and people alike are working together to try and protect themselves). You step in and cause the Quetz to go into space form, which drags ED into space and turns it into gold, and you fight and calm the Quetz who realizes people aren't as greedy any more, returning to earth.

Postgame you find Xotec in space ED.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:38:53 No.16995605 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995576
A lot of people like it, a lot of people dont.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:39:29 No.16995614 Report

Quoted By: >>16995643

>>16995492
>....but what?
if you are going to have an encounter with the evil team and they are going to get away it's better to have ricardo be the thing that blocks your path than a fallen tree or something else. it's just a way of streamlining things so they seem less random.

the evil team getting away and ricardo challenging you are both events which are annoying. if you combine those events it is exponentially more annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:39:39 No.16995620 Report

Quoted By: >>16995681

>>16995577
I like that. We can weave the conspiracy/plot together as the story progresses. He's Mangrove's friend, so I guess it'd be like Lysandre and Sycamore except executed 1000 times better.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:39:53 No.16995624 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995577
not totally sure if you're referring to my idea earlier, but i stated it was an admin, not norty at the observatory

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:40:41 No.16995643 Report

Quoted By: >>16995730

>>16995614
Or they can plan and be competent and use their skills, luck, and golem to get away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:42:11 No.16995681 Report

Quoted By: >>16995701 >>16995715

>>16995620
>He's Mangrove's friend
I prefer him having a hatered/rivalry with Mangrove, but he wouldn't know the Protag's connection to Mangrove so it would make sense that he wouldn't be malicious towards us.

Also, having the player help Northington on some arrends before discovering that he's the guy organizing the evil team provides a real moral depth that the games usually don't have, almost in line with N's quality arguments against animal cruelty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:42:38 No.16995690 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995577
I have a pretty similar idea, in that northington at first seems like a neutral friendly character and the sidequests he sends you on turn out to be aiding him in tracking down the spirits for the construction of the golems, which you only discover until 6th-7th gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:43:06 No.16995701 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995681
>having the player help Northington on some arrends before discovering that he's the guy organizing the evil team
i would like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:43:50 No.16995715 Report

Quoted By: >>16995750

>>16995681
He's connected to Mangrove in some way, shape, or form that doesn't make them absolutely hate eachother. Maybe Mangrove likes Northington but Northington hates Mangrove, or what you said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:44:31 No.16995722 Report

Quoted By: >>16995746 >>16995770 >>16995775

Guys, can we try to think of alternate team leader concepts, please?

We don't HAVE to do northington.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:45:01 No.16995730 Report

Quoted By: >>16995798

>>16995643
simplifying stories by combining elements is just a basic rule of writing.

if you have a tool and you don't use it you are wasting potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:45:41 No.16995746 Report

Quoted By: >>16995793

>>16995722
but almost everyone likes him or at least has gotten used to the idea of him being a major player in the overall plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:45:57 No.16995750 Report

Quoted By: >>16995785 >>16995799 >>16995880

>>16995715
I think Mangrove would hold ambivalence verging on annoyance relating to Northington, while Northington would hold resentment with a healthy dose of jealousy against Mangrove.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:46:59 No.16995770 Report

Quoted By: >>16995793

>>16995722
only 2 of the skeletons specifically say northington.
The one above is based off one.

Simply put, he's a relatively popular character and people have ideas for him, so why shouldnt they be allowed to say them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:47:08 No.16995775 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995722
>can we try to think of alternate team leader concepts
sure, as long as their name is Northington.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:47:38 No.16995785 Report

Quoted By: >>16995880

>>16995750
i would love it if mangrove saw northington as his best friend, almost like a little brother, while northington has been putting on a fake smile for years and secretly hates him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:48:06 No.16995793 Report

Quoted By: >>16995824 >>16995848 >>16995853 >>16995894

>>16995746
>at least has gotten used to the idea of him being a major player in the overall plot
But he's not confirmed.

You guys bitch and moan about how people push designs, well guess what:

Northington is just a pushed concept.

>>16995770
>he's a relatively popular character and people have ideas for him, so why shouldnt they be allowed to say them?
They should, but it's like everybody just assumes he's going to be in and doesn't bother brainstorming other ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:48:17 No.16995798 Report

Quoted By: >>16995891

>>16995730
No it isn't. Combining every single subplot into one isn't good writing, it's shitty writing. I loathe that "everything must be connected in some way, shape, or form." This isn't a book we're writing, it's a game; therefore we can have events unrelated to the main antag plot occur without connection because, you know, real life and not everything in a game, particularly a Pokemon game, needs to be interwoven and made meaningful in regards to the plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:48:23 No.16995799 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995750
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:49:31 No.16995824 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995793
>but it's like everybody just assumes he's going to be in and doesn't bother brainstorming other ideas.
it's more like the people who like northington are using him and the people that dont like him arent doing anything.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:50:36 No.16995848 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995793
>But he's not confirmed.
neither is Tess, neither are Muddy/Sandy.. that doesn't stop them from being the obvious favorite concepts for their respective characters.

Yes you can suggest other Evil Team leader ideas, but there's no reason to complain when other people still say they like Norty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:50:48 No.16995853 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995793
>Northington is just a pushed concept.
Top kek. Pushing implies posting the same concept again and again and ignoring all others; this is a case where the majority of people like him so that other ideas never really take off.
>B-but you guys aren't considering my idea, you must be pushing the other one!!!
No, it's popular for a reason, and those who don't like it have been doing shit in terms of trying to get a new primary antag off the floor. And if it doesn't take, it means that people don't like it as much as the primary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:52:30 No.16995880 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995785
>>16995750
I'm good with either of these. Mangrove sees Northington in the same light his colleagues see him in, but only tolerates him because Mangrove's a good person, or it's a love/hate relationship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:52:55 No.16995891 Report

Quoted By: >>16995928

>>16995798
>No it isn't.
unless every writing resource in the world is wrong. yes it is.

otherwise you get stuff like H:HIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5EkwBHPbM

everything just happens and then stops and then something else happens and then stops. it's called not being good. it's true we're not writing a book though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:53:25 No.16995894 Report

Quoted By: >>16995912

>>16995793
>Northington is just a pushed concept.
Northington's characterization has changed multiple times. What exactly don't you like about his character, the fact that he's got a past with Mangrove, or the fact that he's named Northington? because those two things are the only consistent things about him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:54:37 No.16995912 Report

Quoted By: >>16995942 >>16995963

>>16995894
He doesn't seem like a leader.

He seems like somebody the leader would have around because he's useful, but I can't legimately see him as somebody who inspires others to follow him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:55:33 No.16995928 Report

Quoted By: >>16995965 >>16996012

>>16995891
Ahahahahaha
Wow, what is running two plotlines at the same time. I mean, wow, I would have never considered that. Real life only happens one thing at a time, it's a mindblowing concept to have a couple of things running along at the same time. Same time! Wow golly gee!

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:55:41 No.16995930 Report

Quoted By:

>What a loser!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:56:25 No.16995942 Report

Quoted By: >>16995961 >>16996001

>>16995912
>He doesn't seem like a leader.

He seems like an evil disney character, which is perfect since evil disney characters have oceans more depth than all the other pokemon antagonists N isn't an antagonist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:57:21 No.16995961 Report

Quoted By: >>16995977

>>16995942
>Colress
You're right about everyone else though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:57:31 No.16995963 Report

Quoted By: >>16996001

>>16995912
>He doesn't seem like a leader.
then rewrite him to seem more like a leader. "Man with a plan and mooks that believe him" is good enough of a leader for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:57:43 No.16995965 Report

Quoted By: >>16995977 >>16995992

>>16995928
>two plotlines
there is no plot line with ricardo. he is just the rival.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:58:43 No.16995977 Report

Quoted By: >>16996036 >>16996068

>>16995961
colress has no depth. He just wants to see how strong pokemon can get.

>>16995965
the stolen starter thing is a plotline. It's small, but it's a plotline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 07:59:41 No.16995992 Report

Quoted By: >>16996068

>>16995965
Precisely, so why in the big wide world does he have to have anything to do with the antag team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:00:14 No.16996001 Report

Quoted By: >>16996010 >>16996041 >>16996044

>>16995942
How does that ave anything to do with what I said?

>>16995963
His concept is being a former associate of mangrove, right? A fellow professor?

I can't think of a way to make him come off as charismatic or anything.

I think the fundamental concept of his character is good, but his role doesn't fit the concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:00:48 No.16996010 Report

Quoted By: >>16996018 >>16996024

>>16996001
Here's something simple.

Make Northington charismatic.

Tadah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:00:58 No.16996012 Report

Quoted By: >>16996032 >>16996045 >>16996066

>>16995928
This isn't real life we're writing, it's a pokemon game, there's no need for two separate plotlines to break things up and keep pausing the story because it's not trying to be a complex novel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:01:16 No.16996018 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996010
but he cant be charismatic! he's a scientest and i say he's not!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:01:30 No.16996024 Report

Quoted By: >>16996109

>>16996010
It's not that fucking simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:02:01 No.16996032 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996012
You can't be serious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:02:20 No.16996036 Report

Quoted By: >>16996062 >>16996109

>>16995977
i don't really care and i have other stuff to do. but if ricardo just shows up, you fight him, and then he goes away and has no relevance to the rest of the game i don't think anybody is really going to care or remember him.

who remembers or cares about barry? or hugh? who the fuck was hugh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:02:32 No.16996041 Report

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>>16996001
>I can't think of a way to make him come off as charismatic or anything.
I'm sorry you had such a shit education, over 80% of my professors were charasmatic as fuck... though maybe you only studied math while I bussied myself with actual field archaeology and anthropology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:02:44 No.16996044 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996001
I disagreed with you, he seems like an evil leader from a disney movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:02:47 No.16996045 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996012
jesus christ man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:03:49 No.16996062 Report

Quoted By: >>16996100

>>16996036
Ricardo will be showing up in really annoying places and being a total cunt about it.
He will be remembered whether you like it or not.
He doesn't need to be a part of the evil team's story for this to be true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:03:55 No.16996066 Report

Quoted By: >>16996110 >>16996177

>>16996012
except we already started that when we made the subplot of ricardo stealing the other starter.
Unless you want us to simply drop that after the initial battle, which is fucking stupid.

Also, BW2 had a secondary plotline with hugh's shit. It wasnt done well because gamefreak has shit writers, but it's happened. So don't use the "but it's pokemon" excuse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:03:57 No.16996068 Report

Quoted By: >>16996109 >>16996156 >>16996189

>>16995977
>>16995992
I don't even follow these threads, but
>stealing a starter
>having something to do with the antag team
>who is HG/SS rival

And then you're complaining about it? If you were complaining because it was too similar to another pokemon game then sure, but you're saying it's just play wrong, when the fact that those aspects are in an official pokemon game make them fitting for a pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:05:31 No.16996100 Report

Quoted By: >>16996133

>>16996062
who was hugh? i bet the guys at gamefreak said the same thing about him. he has cool hair and is sort of tough seeming.

i don't remember a single thing about him. do hugh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:06:13 No.16996109 Report

Quoted By: >>16996138 >>16996175

>>16996024
Yes it is.

Explain why it's not.

>>16996036
No one remembers Blue either, eh. Had nothing to do with the plot.
Oh wait. Wait. I think I remember a sliver about him. Just a small tidbit. Maybe something about him being one of the most well-remembered rivals ever. Just something small, not too important.

He will be remembered as being a free spirited person who fucks your shit up.

>>16996068
Because there's no fucking reason for him to be attached to the antag team at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:06:15 No.16996110 Report

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>>16996066
Hugh's shit was still connected to the antag team, it wasn't disconnected from the main plot because it gave hugh a reason to be involved with team plaxma in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:07:43 No.16996133 Report

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>>16996100
oh... googled him because I had no idea who he was... BW2, no wonder

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:07:46 No.16996134 Report

Quoted By: >>16996149 >>16996165 >>16996170

I was playing your guys' demo and I noticed a longer name won't fit right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:08:05 No.16996138 Report

Quoted By: >>16996240

>>16996109
The only reason people remember Blue is because they connect him with Gary from the anime, he wasn't fleshed out in the games and had as much reason to remember him as barry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:08:32 No.16996149 Report

Quoted By: >>16996164

>>16996134
>No fonts installed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:08:32 No.16996150 Report

Quoted By: >>16996227

this ricardo stuff reminds me of jesse and james from the anime. they rarely have anything to do with the plot of the episode and just show up for five seconds and waste time.

they should have dropped them years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:08:42 No.16996156 Report

Quoted By: >>16996179 >>16996190 >>16996220

>>16996068
I earlier posted a plot idea that had the rival accidentally lead you to the evil team.
Basically he stole your friends starter, you run into him, your battle causes a ruckus, the police investigate, see the rival, a wanted criminal, he runs away and you give chase.

He happens to stumble upon the evil team there and promptly escapes.

His only involvement with the team is an incidental one, to get you to encounter them by accident.

Of course this raised some red flags and apparently they shouldnt even meet ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:09:16 No.16996164 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996149
Is that it? I don't have any fonts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:09:20 No.16996165 Report

Quoted By: >>16996275

>>16996134
Install the fonts and see if it works.
Fonts folder in the game's folders, select all then rightclick and install.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:09:43 No.16996170 Report

Quoted By: >>16996275

>>16996134
itll fit better if you install the fonts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:10:03 No.16996175 Report

Quoted By: >>16996240

>>16996109
>Yes it is.
>Explain why it's not.

Because you have to then make that come through in his dialog, and his character design.

You could go the route that he makes others think his research holds the secrets to X or Y or something like that, but I still feel like he would preform better in a supporting role, even with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:10:15 No.16996177 Report

Quoted By: >>16996195 >>16996209 >>16996379

>>16996066
>Unless you want us to simply drop that after the initial battle, which is fucking stupid.
after you beat him and he gets away you're supposed to return home where it's revealed that Mangrove gave your childhood friend the third pokemon and they went ahead and started their own pokemon journey. The proper authorities have been contacted and are searching for Ricardo, but there's no reason to expect to be able to actually get the stolen mon back at this point. But now that you've bruised Ricardo's ego by defeating him so easily he attacks you at every chance he gets, usually an ambush at an inapropriate time, but mostly just whenever he's nearby. The 'pokethief' plot basically ends after the initial fight, but the rivalry is sparked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:10:28 No.16996179 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996156
That's a fine way to introduce the evil team.
I don't know why the thread went full autism over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:11:22 No.16996189 Report

Quoted By: >>16996220 >>16996229 >>16996260

>>16996068
>>who is HG/SS rival
Silver had nothing to do with the evil team in the original game... no more than Blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:11:31 No.16996190 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996156
>Of course this raised some red flags and apparently they shouldn't even meet ever.
DUH. because that's good writing. you have one person show up out of nowhere and then they leave and go far away and don't bother you again until you are done doing other things and then once you're not doing anything again that's when they come back for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:11:33 No.16996195 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996177
so youre telling me that if someone stole your friends shit, and you ran into them again you'd just forget about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:12:29 No.16996209 Report

Quoted By: >>16996259 >>16996391

>>16996177
That's stupid why would you stop trying to get your friend's pokemon back?
Sure Ricardo should be a dick and show up at awkward times, but you should be not attempting to stop him to get it back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:13:02 No.16996220 Report

Quoted By: >>16996252

>>16996156
Kinda sounds like your idea got knocked so you're throwing a fit.

>>16996189
That's why I said HG/SS not G/S. The remakes are still real games, you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:13:20 No.16996227 Report

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>>16996150
he's bassically JessyJames but instead of following the Protag around and sometimes helping him out on quests, Ricado shows up by coincidence at retardedly unenjoyable times and ambushes the Protag for the sake of his ego.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:13:34 No.16996229 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996189
...did you not play the game or?
Silver tries to stop them.
Giovanni is his father.
Silver gets annoyed at you for being weak and trying to infiltrate them.
Blah blah.
Part of Silver's character is wanting to stop TR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:14:18 No.16996240 Report

Quoted By: >>16996315

>>16996138
The reason I remember Blue is because he was a rival who wasn't a whiny child, didn't have shoehorned connection to the plot "because of reasons hahaha", and was an actual rival instead of "lets be friends".

Ricardo will be the same. He will challenge and rival you. He will be the person you compare yourself to and you strive to beat. It is a personal level character. Forcing him to be part of the plot for no fucking reason only degrades his character. He is a free spirited dick who does what he wants, and it just so happens that you bother him, or you get in his way, or he just doesn't like you.

>>16996175
That's easy because we haven't written the dialogue yet.

Explain why it's so difficult again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:15:04 No.16996252 Report

Quoted By: >>16996307

>>16996220
>Kinda sounds like your idea got knocked so you're throwing a fit.
i aint even gonna lie, i am a little miffed.
Plot talk always gets me riled up though.
I still think the whole "ricardo and ET should never interact with each other ever, even if it's incredibly minor and merely serves as progression" shit is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:15:29 No.16996259 Report

Quoted By: >>16996286

>>16996209
>why would you stop trying to get your friend's pokemon back?
I'm sure if you could you would, but Ricardo's just really good at escaping before you can mugg him for his pokeballs is all, and there aren't many clues to follow to track him down yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:15:30 No.16996260 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996189
>"I hate the weak. Pokémon, trainers. It doesn't matter who or what. I'm going to be strong and wipe out the weak. That goes for Team Rocket too. They act big and tough in a group. But get them alone, and they're weak. I hate them all. You stay out of my way. A weakling like you is only a distraction."

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:15:31 No.16996261 Report

Quoted By: >>16996279 >>16996290 >>16996301 >>16996303 >>16996317 >>16997650

Reposting others' headcannons if you will

Ricardo doesn't work for or support the evil team in any way what so ever. He hates them as much if not more than the player.

Dickardo steals stuff and is generally a dick because he needs to support his large family of siblings by himself. This is because the evil team, in the process of looking for Machima in the desert, has wrecked his desert home, greatly making their life harder.

Ducherado is still a dick to you, turns up at the most inconvenient places to wreck your shit with Sobreado but ends up teaming up with you more than once to take down the evil team out of your shared hatred of evil team's motives.

Think a cross between Hugh, Blue and motherfucking Gary Oak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:16:10 No.16996275 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996170
>>16996165
Right, alright then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:16:18 No.16996279 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996261
>Ricardo doesn't work for or support the evil team in any way what so ever. He hates them as much if not more than the player.
>Dickardo steals stuff and is generally a dick because he needs to support his large family of siblings by himself. This is because the evil team, in the process of looking for Machima in the desert, has wrecked his desert home, greatly making their life harder.
Stopped right there. Absolutelydisgusting.jpeg

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:16:32 No.16996286 Report

Quoted By: >>16996334 >>16996352

>>16996259
Why would him being really good at escaping make you give up trying to catch him?
Seriously I don't think you've thought this through at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:16:46 No.16996290 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996261
>teaming up with ricardo
nope. We have a friendly rival for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:17:10 No.16996295 Report

Quoted By:

I've been lurking this project for almost a year, my only contribution being naming Howlequin... I'd really like to see the demo in action.

Can someone post a video of the demo being played? I don't have windows. I'd really like to see the game and hear the music.

Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:17:30 No.16996301 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996261
this is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:17:34 No.16996303 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996261
>ends up teaming up with you more than once to take down the evil team out of your shared hatred of evil team's motives.
Stop this. Ricardo is a dick. Not an ally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:17:52 No.16996307 Report

Quoted By: >>16996731

>>16996252
yeah, in the very least ricardo is logically going to be aware of the evil team that is trying to take over the region.

plot is definitely something i dislike talking about. i think it's because the people who have no other way to contribute to the game get obsessed with trying to make it match their weird headcanon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:18:03 No.16996315 Report

Quoted By: >>16996359 >>16996381

>>16996240
Because you can't just write him in a charismatic style while still have his backstory and his motivations the same. It needs to mesh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:18:18 No.16996317 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996261
>Giving him a justification for being a dick
>Ricardo having an opinion, let alone a strong opinion, on the antag team
What the actual fuck. No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:19:14 No.16996334 Report

Quoted By: >>16996379

>>16996286
>Why would him being really good at escaping make you give up trying to catch him?
how does one actually try and catch him? if he ambushes you it seems more like he is the one following you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:20:22 No.16996352 Report

Quoted By: >>16996379

>>16996286
>Why would him being really good at escaping make you give up trying to catch him?
he escapes... and leaves no clues to follow him... and only shows up again when he's ready to ambush you again.

How exactly do you expect players to 'catch' him? Build 'detective' experience and evolve to "Chief of Police"?

It'd be like personally trying to catch your own IRL mugger who you've never really met before and have no information about other than knowing they're a wanted criminal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:20:49 No.16996359 Report

Quoted By: >>16996382

>>16996315
Charismatic is a natural trait rather than something you learn in school. It already works with the current ideas.

Charismatic young scientist who soon disillusioned the scientific world by his absurd ideas and was shunned. He can still get his way around in the new region. Done.

Or if you really can't see that, he works through gold girl who takes on the public image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:22:00 No.16996379 Report

Quoted By: >>16996440 >>16996443

>>16996352
>>16996334
That's all well and good.
But it's not going to stop you from WANTING to catch him.
The problem was >>16996177 wanting to give up and not care about the stolen pokemon anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:22:03 No.16996381 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996315
>Because you can't just write him in a charismatic style while still have his backstory and his motivations the same.

IDK, I imagine him as super charasmatic and have been doing so the entire time, maybe you should go to /tv/ and request some examples of 'charasmatic scientist' characters that you can look at and see how Northingtons character isn't contradicted by any of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:22:07 No.16996382 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996359
I'm sorry, I just can't see it working.

Maybe if we got some dialog? IDK. Going to bed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:22:37 No.16996391 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996209
the poke actually likes him. only just met your friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:23:14 No.16996403 Report

Quoted By:

Mangrove uncovers dastardly plans by the admins leaving you to team up with an unlikely ally to stop them. And who pushes open the doors of Mangrove's laboratory? Nobody.

Nobody but Shrek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:25:41 No.16996440 Report

Quoted By: >>16996465 >>16996480 >>16996520 >>16996534

>>16996379
>The problem was [...] wanting to give up and not care about the stolen pokemon anymore.
is that the problem? imo the problem is that ricardo is just a series of short speed bumps. he has more personality than any of our other characters and yet serves no function. every time you encounter him you are just going to try to end the fight as fast as possible so you can get back to the main game.

also his complete lack of sensible motivations kind of hurts his characterization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:25:51 No.16996443 Report

Quoted By: >>16996486 >>16996487 >>16996558

>>16996379
YOU PERSONALLY can WANT to catch him all YOU want, but seeing as how protags in Pokemon games don't have any dialogue it's unlikely you will ever make an in game soliloquy along the lines of "Sofia I, desu desu, I failed. Ricarderders is too differcerut to capter. My shame reflects upon the generations. I soduko now."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:27:17 No.16996465 Report

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>>16996440
>he has more personality than any of our other chara
No.
He doesn't.
Ricardo is a dick.
That is the entirety of his character.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:27:51 No.16996480 Report

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>>16996440
>also his complete lack of sensible motivations kind of hurts his characterization.

You just don't understand him, but how could you... you didn't live his life. You don't know anything about him, about what a person has to do to survive on the streets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:28:12 No.16996486 Report

Quoted By: >>16996556 >>16996558

>>16996443
yeah...it's just going to seem like ricardo is stalking you. if somebody stole my wallet and then a week later they jumped out and punched me out and said "you're never going to catch me" i would literally not be able to convince the cops what had happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:28:22 No.16996487 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996443
YOU PERSONALLY can be a faggot all you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:30:30 No.16996520 Report

Quoted By: >>16996548 >>16996591

>>16996440
>also his complete lack of sensible motivations kind of hurts his characterization.
No, that IS his characterization. He doesn't care. He's a rebellious youth who does what he wants. He's living life on the edge, whatever way he wants to. That is him. He is a dick. Period. Tadah. Nothing more to be said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:31:12 No.16996534 Report

Quoted By: >>16996591

>>16996440
I sort of feel he could be a sidequest. Just a character who is an asshole and cases a lot of trouble to other npc's. At the end of the game maybe you have a big final battle with him and when you beat the shit out of him you finally get him arrested or whatever. If there are any NPC's that you get attached to that he hurt it would make you feel better. Or heck maybe there are events in the game where you need to go battle a Admin of the enemy team but Ricardo just being an asshole stops you for a battle and by the time you defeat him and he runs you missed the chance to stop the Admin and he gets away with what he was doing (not saying ricardo did it FOR the admin, just to get in your way cause he is a jerk)

Thats just an idea though. I dont think he has to be attached to the main plot, just have a decent enough reason to hate him and want to finish him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:32:08 No.16996548 Report

Quoted By: >>16996601

>>16996520
>people will never accept that characters are dicks for the sake of being a dick, there just HAS to be a reason
god damn it ricardo is going to be ruined isn't he?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:32:21 No.16996556 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996486
it's more like if a total stranger stole your friends wallet so you started to beat the shit out of them but they got away before you could get your friends shit back, then you find out your friend got a replacement wallet and then you left home on a cross country tour and a few times along the way you encountered the guy living his own life and he tries to fight you again to restore his personal honor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:32:27 No.16996558 Report

Quoted By: >>16996607 >>16996626 >>16996637

>>16996486
>>16996443
Basically there's gonna have to be some sort of closure with that plotline or else we run into the problem of simply dropping it like it never happened or ricardo looking like he's stalking you.
What you guys are forgetting though is that there IS a 3rd character to this arc we can use for this.
We can find some way to use the friendly rival to come to terms with the fact that they wont get their pokemon back (maybe they end up fighting ricardo once and they can sense that the pokemon loves him or something) or something else.
But the ties have to be closed or else it'll just be weird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:33:17 No.16996591 Report

Quoted By: >>16996616

>>16996520
>He doesn't care.
then why does he keep jumping out and talking to me. i just want to get more gym badges and he won't leave me alone. doesn't he have more pokemon to steal or something?

>>16996534
> Or heck maybe there are events in the game where you need to go battle a Admin of the enemy team but Ricardo just being an asshole stops you for a battle and by the time you defeat him and he runs you missed the chance to stop the Admin and he gets away with what he was doing (not saying ricardo did it FOR the admin, just to get in your way cause he is a jerk)
nope. the autistic headcanon crowd says that this can't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:33:50 No.16996601 Report

Quoted By: >>16996651

>>16996548
>they wouldn't accept that the abandoned explorable observatory exists solely for the purpose of being an abandoned explorable observatory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:34:09 No.16996607 Report

Quoted By: >>16996639

>>16996558
see that's an okay way to end it, but having ricardo suddenly change or finding out he has some 2deep4you backstory is just fucking lame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:34:46 No.16996616 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996591
He doesn't. You just meet up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:35:23 No.16996626 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996558
>We can find some way to use the friendly rival
that's actually a good point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:36:07 No.16996637 Report

Quoted By: >>16996657 >>16996698

>>16996558
>there's gonna have to be some sort of closure with that plotline

Next time you see your childhood friend they tell you not to worry about getting their pokemon back, they're sad about losing it, but they've dedicated themselfe to becoming stronger so they can protect their new pokemon better next time "by the way, maybe we could have a battle to see how I've improved?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:36:10 No.16996639 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996607
i definitely dont want that. He can still just be an asshole to be an asshole while closing up the ties of that plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:36:37 No.16996651 Report

Quoted By: >>16996682

>>16996601
>they wouldn't accept that the abandoned explorable observatory exists solely for the purpose of not going to it because it's a waste of time

fix'd that for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:37:01 No.16996657 Report

Quoted By: >>16996668

>>16996637
>next time
fuck no, they JUST set off saying "I'm gonna go get my pokemon back"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:37:41 No.16996668 Report

Quoted By: >>16996680

>>16996657
then why are you involved?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:38:36 No.16996680 Report

Quoted By: >>16996703

>>16996668
Because you're helping your friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:38:44 No.16996682 Report

Quoted By: >>16996742

>>16996651
>getting fumighast is a waste of time
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:39:10 No.16996698 Report

Quoted By: >>16996732

>>16996637
there'll have to be a decent amount of time pass from when you start, because people dont get over shit like that like nothing.
But i think that's an alright way to end it as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:39:17 No.16996703 Report

Quoted By: >>16996726

>>16996680
why doesn't she go do it herself i'm trying to save the world here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:40:29 No.16996726 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996703
Because your mother can only fuck so many times a night anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:40:50 No.16996731 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996307
>in the very least ricardo is logically going to be aware of the evil team that is trying to take over the region.
as if the evil team was open about their goal. imagine northington just wanting to find out stuff about ancient cultures and pokemon, and just chances upon the power. then he either succumbs to it, or his admins do. no 'taking over the region' here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:40:54 No.16996732 Report

Quoted By: >>16996762 >>16996772

>>16996698
>there'll have to be a decent
Encountering your friend just before reaching Crossroads town should be enough time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:41:17 No.16996742 Report

Quoted By: >>16996795

>>16996682
>having to go down pointless dead end paths to get pokemon you want to use
>being constantly stopped by some guy you don't care about
>having to call your little sister over and over

damnit this game is going to be annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:42:36 No.16996762 Report

Quoted By: >>16996792

>>16996732
i'd say that's pretty damn soon if you ask me.
Sounds like you're dead set on just not having the stolen starter side plot at all and want to end it as soon as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:43:26 No.16996772 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996732
I'd say 4-5 Gyms in should be enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:44:39 No.16996792 Report

Quoted By: >>16996828

>>16996762
it's not like they're completely moved on, they're still hung up on needing to be stronger to protect their new pokemon, but they've moved on enough to tell the Protag it's not worth risking their safety to persue Ricardo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:44:53 No.16996795 Report

Quoted By: >>16996872

>>16996742
>having to go down pointless dead end paths to get pokemon you want to use
Most of the pokemon I want to use are near endgame...
>being constantly stopped by some guy you don't care about
I don't ... what?
>having to call your little sister over and over
nobody wanted that except that gay pedo anon who came up with the idea and kept pushing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:46:43 No.16996828 Report

Quoted By: >>16996848

>>16996792
ah ok. Well you're making sense, but i'll have to respectfully disagree. I think it'd work better after more time has passed, though it's also because i think it could work for a decent subplot that can work with progressing the main plot as well, like with the previously posted idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:48:18 No.16996848 Report

Quoted By: >>16996900

>>16996828
>it's also because i think it could work for a decent subplot
but if we weren't gonna use it as a subplot then there's no reason to leave the plothole of "why doesn't the protag try and catch Ricardo" hanging open any longer than necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:49:33 No.16996872 Report

Quoted By: >>16997371 >>16997387

>>16996795
Anybody know where the proposed pokemon locations page was on the wiki?
I can't find it.
I swear there was one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:50:55 No.16996900 Report

Quoted By: >>16996945 >>16996966

>>16996848
except there's an event where we're supposed to run into him at the saloon anyway, so it works with that very well.
You go into the saloon, you see the dude that stole your friends mon, you pick a fight with him.

That works better than just going there and hes all "hey im a dick im gonna fight you now"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:53:56 No.16996945 Report

Quoted By: >>16997000

>>16996900
>we're supposed to run into him at the saloon anyway
which is why the alt protag should release you of your duty to restoring their pokemon before you run into Ricardo again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:54:06 No.16996949 Report

Quoted By: >>16997057

i think we just need to figure out ways to seemlessly work ricardo in without having it just be him jumping out.

one time you can be going to stop the evil team and you run into him and because of that the evil team gets away. one time you can enconter an npc who had their pokemon stolen and they can tell you where he went. one time an npc can tell you that he saw a man breaking into a building and he thinks it's the evil team up to no good but then you get there and it's ricardo. the two plotlines can intertwine without ever actually overlapping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:54:58 No.16996966 Report

Quoted By: >>16997000 >>16997080

>>16996900
but wouldn't it be better if your friend told you to forget about him, only to have him show up in the saloon and pick a fight with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:57:14 No.16996996 Report

Quoted By: >>16997080 >>17001438

Nondell, what is this? An image for ants? :3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 08:57:21 No.16997000 Report

Quoted By: >>16997063 >>16997067 >>16997122

>>16996945
>>16996966
why drop the plot point right before the event when the sideplot works with the event very well?

It simply makes more sense for you to pick a fight with him than for him to pick a fight with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:00:43 No.16997057 Report

Quoted By: >>16997081

>>16996949
I want him to interrupt you as you heal your pokemon in a pokemon center at one point

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:00:45 No.16997058 Report

Quoted By: >>16997761

>no overworlds

W-What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:01:06 No.16997063 Report

Quoted By: >>16997095 >>16997122

>>16997000
>It simply makes more sense for you to pick a fight with him
Pokemon Protags by nature are incapable of picking fights with anyone. As soon as he locks eyes with you he should be attacking you regardless of what you think. (the only fesable way to do it would be to have Ricardo say something like [Ricardo:"I'm trying to enjoy myself so you should get out of here."] [Pick a fight: Y/N?] and that's just a little too JRG for my tastes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:01:15 No.16997067 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997000
i agree with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:02:07 No.16997080 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996966
>>16996996
1699966699696969699696

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:02:09 No.16997081 Report

Quoted By: >>16997101 >>16997903

>>16997057
>and nothing happens since the nurse is holding all your mons

I'd rather him be exiting a center just as you're trying to enter it, then fighting you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:03:37 No.16997095 Report

Quoted By: >>16997118

>>16997063
you simply seeking him out is enough though. as long as you hear of a ruckus by some guy with a cowboy hat that's ever so slightly off the beaten path, you are the one going to him (presumably to retrieve the stolen starter?) and not him randomly appearing before you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:04:06 No.16997101 Report

Quoted By: >>16997111 >>16997903

>>16997081
No, I mean

>go up to counter
>"Would you like us to heal your pokemo-"
>Ricardo appears somehow and challenges you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:04:44 No.16997111 Report

Quoted By: >>16997259

>>16997101
heck yes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:04:57 No.16997118 Report

Quoted By: >>16997149

>>16997095
>you simply seeking him out is enough though.
how can you seek him out? you have no idea where he is. It'd be like trying to find Blue on that fucking ship, there's no way for you to know he's there until he's already attacking you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:05:07 No.16997122 Report

Quoted By: >>16997174

>>16997000
i mean think of it like this
>friend tells you theyve moved on and you should drop it
>you go to saloon
>ricardo's there
>he fights you because bruised ego

or

>going on your adventure keeping an eye out for the guy that hurt your friend
>go into the saloon
>see him at the bar
>confront him
>you fight

>>16997063
>Pokemon Protags by nature are incapable of picking fights with anyone.
Your first interaction with ricardo is picking a fight with him.
You seem to think that because they're mute it means they can't confront people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:07:00 No.16997149 Report

Quoted By: >>16997196

>>16997118
did you read my post? i can easily imagine you hearing about a dude causing a ruckus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:08:41 No.16997174 Report

Quoted By: >>16997246

>>16997122
I guess I just didn't realize that walking up to an NPC and hitting the A button is the same as picking a fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:09:43 No.16997196 Report

Quoted By: >>16997239 >>16997260

>>16997149
he's not causing a rucus tho, he's sitting in a bar having a drink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:12:17 No.16997239 Report

Quoted By: >>16997278 >>16997279 >>16997315

>>16997196
is that confirmed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:12:53 No.16997246 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997174
Well you have to talk to him multiple times before he fights you.
You were told that a dude in a poncho and hat stole the pokemon.
You find said guy in town and have to repeatedly talk to him (meaning you're actively seeking him out) for him to fight you.
It's a little between the lines, but it's straight up obvious what your character's intent is.

Just because it's not blatantly out in the open in big rainbow letters doesnt mean that you're obviously not confronting him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:13:33 No.16997259 Report

Quoted By: >>16997306 >>16997346

>>16997111
No. Pokemon centers have always been immune to plot, this won't change with Sage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:13:36 No.16997260 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997196
>>16997196
a drink of moomoo milk, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:14:35 No.16997278 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997239
even so, it would be enough to get a hint to go to the saloon. like 'a joung kid like you just came into town. with the cowboy hat and all, going straight to the saloon. it's nice to see young folk staying true to our ways.'
that way you seek out the saloon in order to seek out ricardo. or at least, that would be a fairly obvious way of reading the situation, especially if ricardo says something like 'oh, you came to seek me out?'

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:14:38 No.16997279 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997239
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:15:59 No.16997306 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997259
>grumpy anon has decided
No fun allowed guys.
You heard him.
Anon has decided.
Looks like we can- Oh wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:16:35 No.16997315 Report

Quoted By: >>16997351

>>16997239
no, but neither is the possiblility of encountering Ricardo in the saloon in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:18:49 No.16997346 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997259
i see that argument, and it would probably be for the better.
still think we should flesh out the nurse with more dialogue and perhaps use ricardo right before entering the pokemon center.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:19:10 No.16997351 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997315
its always been a popular idea though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:20:39 No.16997371 Report

Quoted By: >>16997387 >>16997395 >>16997571

>>16996872
nobody?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:21:26 No.16997387 Report

Quoted By: >>16997550

>>16997371
>>16996872
i dont think it exists, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:21:53 No.16997395 Report

Quoted By: >>16997550

>>16997371
nah, sorry mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:34:25 No.16997550 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997387
>>16997395
...but it does
I saw it today or yesterday
I just wanted to make sure Crawglock was in the rivers etc.
Crawfish are freshwater, not saltwater.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:36:12 No.16997571 Report

Quoted By: >>16997614

>>16997371
http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Pokemon_Encounters

This, you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:39:27 No.16997614 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997571
>http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Pokemon_Encounters
No, it had all the proposed routes with all the proposed pokemon's menu icons listed beside them in a big table.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:41:57 No.16997650 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996261
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP/index.php?showtopic=382&st=0&#entry22097837
My very old idea. Doucherado doesn't give a fuck and lets everything happen. When you run around having ebin fights with space serpent he runs away with Xotec (a solid golden pokemon) while nobody looks. You then have to find him and defeat again. Non-involved, in-character and generally douchey to the player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:50:44 No.16997761 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997058
There are some at houses making brrrbrbrbbt noises when talked to.
They just don't follow you.

A question: Was Keen Eye Gurrenbird deliberate choice of ability? If yes, y'all have my deepest approval.

Also, maruno said something about mouse support. From another general I also know there is a way to have multiple RPGM executables use and share the same saves (VH has it this way). What I mean, there should be at least some capability to make external amie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:53:30 No.16997802 Report

Quoted By: >>16997846

Why can't I play your demo guys? Why must it crash when I open it? ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:54:27 No.16997813 Report

Quoted By: >>16997846 >>16997866

Can you lower the overall encounter rate? Feels like I'm playing Persona 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:56:42 No.16997846 Report

Quoted By: >>16997863 >>16997894

>>16997813
>do something to accommodate me
....not really how it works anon
>>16997802
Can you show us the error?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:57:52 No.16997863 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997846
I know - it was merely a suggestion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 09:58:01 No.16997866 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997813
its seriously totally random.
Sometimes for me its super high sometimes its pathetically low.
Just gotta deal, nigga.
Besides it aint that bad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 10:00:35 No.16997894 Report

Quoted By: >>16997973 >>16998001 >>16998519

>>16997846
Showed it to you guys yesterday, and was told that it was a problem with the game engine. I googled it and did some tweaking like changing the compatibility to that of XP and/or running as an admin but to no avail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 10:01:07 No.16997903 Report

Quoted By:

>>16997081
>>16997101
both of these are hilarious. we could get really creative with this dickery.

>go home
>talk to mom
>"anon you look tired why don't you and your pokemon take a.."
>ricardo comes in
>"you'll never get your friends pokemon back"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 10:05:19 No.16997957 Report

Quoted By:

Pengliff looks like Patrick Star from the back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 10:06:50 No.16997973 Report

Quoted By: >>16998014

>>16997894
where have you extracted it to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 10:08:47 No.16998001 Report

Quoted By: >>16998014 >>16998519

>>16997894
also this of any use?
http://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/10453/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 10:10:34 No.16998014 Report

Quoted By: >>16998519

>>16997973
Into my games folder in the second local disk
>>16998001
Redownloading to test this out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 10:25:14 No.16998174 Report

Quoted By: >>16998592

Has anyone had success in evolving Koblin to Koberus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:01:01 No.16998519 Report

Quoted By:

>>16998014
>>16998001
>>16997894
It has been relieved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:04:24 No.16998560 Report

Quoted By: >>16998593 >>16998640

So what show does Dad like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:07:24 No.16998583 Report

Quoted By: >>16998592

Really do hope one is able to change the control keys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:08:13 No.16998592 Report

Quoted By: >>16998599 >>16998618

>>16998174
how much would I need to grind it
it evolves aroun 20-ish levels?

>>16998583
F1 is your saviour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:08:17 No.16998593 Report

Quoted By: >>16998613

>>16998560
Piñatabob Balloonpants?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:08:58 No.16998599 Report

Quoted By: >>16998618

>>16998592
>F1 is your saviour.
Didn't know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:10:46 No.16998613 Report

Quoted By:

>>16998593
0/10, i laughed
i don't have class

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:11:19 No.16998618 Report

Quoted By: >>16998640

>>16998592
>>16998599
>F1 is your saviour.
It's really not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:13:29 No.16998640 Report

Quoted By: >>16998646

>>16998560
Breaking Bad
It's about a genius programmer trying to make and distribute illegal Powder Snow TM.
>>16998618
It's the best what we have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:14:55 No.16998646 Report

Quoted By: >>16998654

>>16998640
>the best we have
You know it doesn't work right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:16:20 No.16998654 Report

Quoted By: >>16998975

>>16998646
oh? Maybe after restarting or something? If still nothing, pester Maruno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:16:51 No.16998657 Report

Quoted By: >>16998838

Dacapo Town's motto should be: "Fresh snow for a fresh beginning."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:38:59 No.16998838 Report

Quoted By: >>16998856

>>16998657
Tremol Town's motto should be: "Warmth by the fires of industry."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:41:59 No.16998856 Report

Quoted By: >>16998937

>>16998838
how about "fossil fuels for cold fools"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:53:46 No.16998937 Report

Quoted By:

>>16998856

Maruno

Maruno Mon 30 Dec 2013 11:57:53 No.16998975 Report

Quoted By:

>>16998654
No, don't pester Maruno. There's no real support for reassigning controls (as far as I know - I've never tried using F1). There's a tutorial somewhere on how to add a "Set Controls" option in the Options menu, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 12:16:49 No.16999132 Report

Quoted By: >>16999203 >>16999257 >>16999280 >>16999318

There's gonna be romance, r-right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 12:30:16 No.16999203 Report

Quoted By:

>>16999132
pokemon is a kid's game you weirdo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 12:38:02 No.16999257 Report

Quoted By: >>16999286 >>16999579

>>16999132
No, but there will be hardcore bara sex.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 12:43:19 No.16999280 Report

Quoted By:

>>16999132
>Sequoia route

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 12:45:26 No.16999286 Report

Quoted By:

>>16999257
MODS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 12:48:49 No.16999318 Report

Quoted By: >>16999497

>>16999132
No. If you want romance, get a gf or self insert in one of your Chinese cartoon games. In other words, the latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 13:19:57 No.16999497 Report

Quoted By:

>>16999318
C'mon guys, you can do it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 13:32:59 No.16999579 Report

Quoted By:

>>16999257
Nothing is more romantic than manly love though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 13:44:28 No.16999690 Report

Quoted By:

Sorry to disrupt your manly bonding, but after getting the easter egg I noticed the Stockpile+Spit up was vastly underwhelming, barely scratching weak (lv 6) mons as the monstrosity it is used by.
Wat the fuk.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 14:01:06 No.16999881 Report

Quoted By: >>16999960

>>16993843
>Literally no one has done any
Guess the burden is on me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 14:07:47 No.16999960 Report

Quoted By:

>>16999881
good job anon
can't see anything really wrong
keep up the good spirits and work together with pleasant companions!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jJsYbVBnaE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 14:48:57 No.17000453 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995034
>i like the idea that you could help him and then learn later that you were helping the wrong guy.
this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 14:53:10 No.17000501 Report

Quoted By:

>>16995586
>. You step in and cause the Quetz to go into space form, which drags ED into space and turns it into gold,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 14:57:32 No.17000564 Report

Quoted By: >>17000676

Just wondering, how long did everyone take in finishing the demo? For me it was 2 and a bit to finish the gym, 3 hours total to catch all the pokemon available and finish all trainers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:01:18 No.17000620 Report

Quoted By: >>17000638 >>17000667

>Dat title theme
I swear to god if you guys don't use that intro melody as the main legendary's leitmotif you'll make the biggest mistake of your lives

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:03:04 No.17000638 Report

Quoted By:

>>17000620
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:04:46 No.17000667 Report

Quoted By:

>>17000620
seconded

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:05:51 No.17000676 Report

Quoted By: >>17000696

>>17000564
it took me 3and half but i tried to run in very wall and stuff lik this to search bugs.
Also did you catch EVERY pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:07:20 No.17000696 Report

Quoted By: >>17000733 >>17000751

>>17000676
Yeah no, except for that one. Couldn't beat it either and since there were no trainers left I felt grinding up would take too long.

Also, I plan on playing this save throughout the entire game over the coming year(s)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:09:43 No.17000733 Report

Quoted By: >>17000751

>>17000696
Same here,figured it'll take ages to level-grind my team enough to take Gigaard on

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:11:25 No.17000751 Report

Quoted By: >>17000776

>>17000696
i plan to restart the game when the next demo drops because i didn't pay too much attention in this one i just rushed to see if everything was okay. And i named che character in all caps...
>>17000733
i just panicked because it was sweeping my team and trew a pokeball. Catched at first try

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:14:08 No.17000776 Report

Quoted By:

>>17000751
Damn,lucky you

Keep that save anyways in case you don't have the same luck in your proper run when the game's finished

Sir Vay !5K6MsGPkBw

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Sir Vay !5K6MsGPkBw Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:18:13 No.17000820 Report

Quoted By: >>17001814

>>16993258
winnning plots http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Plot_Proposals
Expand/fill plot holes here
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Pokemon_Gen_VP...p?showtopic=387

gonna pick one super best plot some time in the future future as the official one, then get into stuff like in game events and encounters with the villains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:20:46 No.17000869 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994230
starry cave is there iirc
besides, seems parallel to mansion on Cinnebun Island

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:40:23 No.17001199 Report

Quoted By: >>17001272

What happened to the "following Pokemon" feature? We could feasibly finish the overworlds before everything else is done, so shouldn't it be tested in the demo now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:44:30 No.17001272 Report

Quoted By: >>17001519

>>17001199
It's not directly supported in Essentials, so it'll take some legwork either on the part of Red Pawter or Maruno. They're trying to make it happen, though, so stay tuned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:49:34 No.17001360 Report

Quoted By:

>>16994230
I've proposed it as the place where the player initially encounters the evil team, for whatever reason they might be there (likely something Quetz related).
It's at the perfect place for it, being shortly after the 1st gym. Compare to when you first meet the villains in past games.
>Gen 1, Mt. Moon, shortly after 1st Badge
>Gen 2, Slowpoke Well, after 1st Badge, right before 2nd
>Gen 3, Devon Goods incident (before and after 1st Badge)
>Gen 4, Floraroma(?) and Valley Windworks, after 1st Badge
>Gen 5, Dreamyard, after 1st Badge
>Gen 6, lolhaventplayed
Point being, it's the opportune moment. Maybe have someone in Crossroads block your path and say "theres bad guys in the observatory wrecking shit up please help"

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:55:00 No.17001438 Report

Quoted By:

>>16996996
I was in a rush.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:58:00 No.17001487 Report

Quoted By: >>17001545

>Pawter and that other guy makes a game

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 15:59:45 No.17001519 Report

Quoted By:

>>17001272
Thanks, I was just a bit curious. The sprites are certainly up to standard, so it would be a shame if they weren't implemented.

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 16:01:38 No.17001545 Report

Quoted By:

>>17001487
>Assets

Plot Hombre !vmWTpD1weQ

Plot Hombre !vmWTpD1weQ Mon 30 Dec 2013 16:05:53 No.17001614 Report

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Antag team is using meteorlogical data to map ancient coastlines of Urobos to find lost city. They are receptive to you at first and give you a tour before politely telling you to leave as they have much work to do.

Youre leaving, walking south, when Doucherado runs by you. Get to Crossroads town, antag team has caught up to you and accuses you of stealing data. Angry at the supposed betrayal of their offer of good fortune and hospitality, they challenge you to battle.

They run off, with you an enemy in their eyes. Later you see Doucherado in saloon in Crossroads town where you talk to him, fight him for second battle, and there he tells you he took the data for fun and saw you there so he thought he'd frame you

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6

Nondell !5YRAbX/Ng6 Mon 30 Dec 2013 16:09:46 No.17001684 Report

Quoted By:

New Thread:
>>17001608
>>17001608
>>17001608

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 16:17:14 No.17001814 Report

Quoted By:

>>17000820
gureaht jahb on the link :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 16:27:25 No.17002008 Report

Quoted By: >>17002071

Wow guys, I leave for the weekend and the demo drops. Well done! I'm having soem trouble starting it up though. I run game.exe, but then the game just says "failed to load script" and closes. Any idea on how to fix this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Dec 2013 16:30:21 No.17002071 Report

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>>17002008
are you extracting and running it properly

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