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>>17035766
Mega Evolution seems like the only way to make him good.

Heck, his Mega Evo could be +20 to all stats and an ability like Sheer Force and he'd be more than usable.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:11:45 No.17035895 Report

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>>17035873
my love of Heracross makes me worried to ask for a mega evo for this magnificent monster.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:11:56 No.17035898 Report

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>>17035873

>sheer force mega electivire

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scott 3480 3068 3325 Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:12:27 No.17035908 Report

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>>17035873
give him sheer force or Moxie and make use of his awesome coverage.

Or Flare Blitz as a breeding move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:12:53 No.17035916 Report

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>>17035800

If Ion Deluge had +3 priority then it could become the ultimate counter to most fake out users, except for Ambipom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:14:13 No.17035931 Report

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we fix him by giving Jynx her overdue evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:16:18 No.17035961 Report

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Give him Iron Fist.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:16:51 No.17035977 Report

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>>17035895

Why? Have you tried Mega Hera in doubles? Its a monster with the proper support (I use walls, tailwind and Quash), and unlike Cloyster it has enough special defensive bulk to survive unboosted fire moves. You only have to worry about flying moves, but both tailwind and quash should keep Mega Hera from being OHKOed , and something with Quick Guard turns Talonflame into Moxie Fodder.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:18:26 No.17035993 Report

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>>17035977
Purely because he looks like shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:19:25 No.17036010 Report

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>>17035873
>There will never be a Mega Electivire with Van den Graaf generators for shoulders

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:19:32 No.17036015 Report

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is he really not useful? mine has been pretty good for me even if he is a bit bland, but i always figured that's only cus i didn't know how to use him good

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:20:18 No.17036026 Report

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Make it Electric/Fighting like it's always looked.

I was so certain that's what it was going to be before D/P released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:20:33 No.17036032 Report

Quoted By: >>17036328

Make Volt Tackle an Electric-type Head Smash.
Wild Charge becomes what Volt Tackle was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:21:19 No.17036053 Report

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>>17035766
I was just going to make one for the sake of it, I figured in a gen of priority Thunder Wave, it could be useful, but I'm not sure if Motor Drive even triggers as it's now immune to paralysis.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:22:30 No.17036082 Report

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>>17035993
i mean, i'm sure if they gave him a mega they'd mostly rely on amping up the faint Oni motif his line has with sharp horns, big tusks/fangs, maybe tetsubo spikes on his tails and a big scruffy beard, and a huge sloppy dick

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:22:43 No.17036086 Report

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>>17036053
it does

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:24:10 No.17036112 Report

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>>17036086
That's nice to know. Thanks.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:24:35 No.17036116 Report

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>>17036053
It does, Electivire is a great counter for Klefki.

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scott 3480 3068 3325 Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:24:51 No.17036125 Report

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Oh, and he should be able to get Close Combat via breeding. I don't know why he can't when he gets all those other fighting moves, but he'd benefit heavily from access to things like close combat, drain punch, and even bullet punch or mach punch

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:27:29 No.17036171 Report

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>>17036082
and Heracross looks like it would be really easy to build on it's sick beetle type look. Just don't trust Sugimori anymore

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:35:39 No.17036328 Report

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>>17036032

>Light Ball Pikachu's new Volt Tackle is more powerful than Zekrom's Bolt Strike.

Are you trying to kill us all?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:42:47 No.17036460 Report

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>>17035835
Wouldnt that only work for doubles?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:44:45 No.17036500 Report

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>>17036328

All of these calcs were done with a hypothetical base 150 Volt Tackle.

252+ Atk Light Ball Pikachu Volt Tackle vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 408-482 (100.9 - 119.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Light Ball Pikachu Volt Tackle vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Marvel Scale Milotic: 350-414 (88.8 - 105%) -- OHKO with entry hazards.

252+ Atk Light Ball Pikachu Volt Tackle vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 360-426 (107.7 - 127.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO (Stealth Rock to break Sturdy.)

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:45:17 No.17036509 Report

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Get rid of the red electrodes on its wires. They look like penis heads.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:47:09 No.17036543 Report

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>>17036500
Wouldn't that also OHKO Pikachu with recoil?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:54:01 No.17036647 Report

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>>1703654

I don't think so, with 1/3 recoil, anyways.

Now excuse me, I have to test out a few more calcs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:56:18 No.17036703 Report

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Electivire and Magmortar get Sheer Force
Both get 20 extra points in speed
Electivire gets a physical electric move that isn't shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Dec 2013 21:59:53 No.17036767 Report

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>>17036647

Medicham with Skill Swap as a partner.

252+ Atk Light Ball Pure Power Pikachu Volt Tackle vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Giratina: 267-315 (52.9 - 62.5%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Light Ball Pure Power Pikachu Volt Tackle vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Dialga: 267-315 (66 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

So basically, any non ground type switching into a base 150 Volt Tackle will be in a world of pain.

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