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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:25:00 No.17105718 View View Reply Original Report

>Flare Blitz
>Double Edge
>Dig
>Bite

Just give it to me straight doc there's really no helping this thing, is there? I thought Flare Blitz would give us some hope but apparently not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:27:35 No.17105760 Report

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>>17105718
>not Rock Smash

Have fun getting Stone Edge'd faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:28:09 No.17105769 Report

Quoted By: >>17105791 >>17105826

>65 base HP
>needs to use Flame Charge to have acceptable speed
Why did you think Flare Blitz would help?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:28:09 No.17105770 Report

Quoted By: >>17105805 >>17105826

>not even Flame Charge
>no Quick Attack or Facade
Are you serious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:28:12 No.17105771 Report

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>>17105718
It helps alittle
I'd always have return on my flareon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:29:13 No.17105782 Report

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Guts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:29:42 No.17105791 Report

Quoted By: >>17106223

>>17105769
because this board NEVER FUCKING SHUT UP about it

everyone got their panties wet when they found out he finally got Flare Blitz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:29:46 No.17105792 Report

Quoted By: >>17105805

facade, man. Flareon's HA is Guts, and it has a great Atk stat.

do the math.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:29:56 No.17105795 Report

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>not using choise band and just flare blitzing niggas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:30:42 No.17105805 Report

Quoted By: >>17105821

>>17105770
>>17105792
>Facade
I-I don't have Guts...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:31:44 No.17105821 Report

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>>17105805
Well, then, don't complain and work on it. Even a Guts boosted Quick Attack with maxed atk stat hurts a lot and Flame Charge raises his speed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:31:53 No.17105826 Report

Quoted By: >>17105842 >>17105866

>>17105770
>>17105769
>base 50 BP

I'd rather use one Flare Blitz and do 10/10 damage then die trying to set-up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:32:46 No.17105842 Report

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>>17105826
What, you can't even tell if you're gonna get knocked out in one hit? Why are you not switching instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:32:56 No.17105846 Report

Quoted By: >>17105864 >>17105884

So what IS the GOAT Flareon set then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:34:11 No.17105864 Report

Quoted By: >>17105887

>>17105846
I'd say Guts, with Facade, Flare Blitz and Flame Charge is pretty damn core. The last move could be Bite or Quick Attack. Or maybe something else, depends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:34:18 No.17105866 Report

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>>17105826
You do understand that if Flareon is going to get KO'ed trying to set up with Flame Charge that it's also going to get KO'ed trying to use Flare Blitz, right? It has 65 base speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:35:15 No.17105884 Report

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>>17105846

Protect - Facade - Flare Blitz - Superpower, Adamant, full investment in HP and Att, holding a Toxic Orb

Hits like a fucking truck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:35:21 No.17105887 Report

Quoted By: >>17105898 >>17105903

>>17105864
Superpower

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:35:42 No.17105898 Report

Quoted By: >>17105903

>>17105887
I forgot he gets Superpower, put that in, then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:35:52 No.17105901 Report

Quoted By: >>17105963

Put a scarf on it, spam FB, hope for the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:35:53 No.17105903 Report

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>>17105887
>>17105898
>tfw no Bank

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:38:14 No.17105941 Report

Quoted By: >>17105971

>>17105501
>>17105501
>>17105501

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:39:45 No.17105963 Report

Quoted By: >>17105986 >>17106159

>>17105901
Pretty pointless because pic related exists.
>More attack or extra damage
>More speed to outpace more things with the Scar
>More HP to soak up more Flare Blitz before going down

There's literally no point in running Flaren when Darmanitan exists
Or Arcanine
Or Blaziken
Or Infernape
Or Entei
Or Charizard
Or Talonflame

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:40:06 No.17105967 Report

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>tfw your all time bro is shit but you still use him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:40:13 No.17105971 Report

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>>17105941
This is true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:40:31 No.17105972 Report

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Iron Tail

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:41:38 No.17105986 Report

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>>17105963
Hell even Emboar is better, both are slow as molasses but at least Emboar has a great HP and a better typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:49:50 No.17106112 Report

Quoted By: >>17106720

It's definitely the most suicidal thing out there, bar DB or Explosion runners. With such low HP/speed, Toxic Orb and Flare Blitz, it'll be lucky to manage one KO without killing itself. I don't think Flare Blitz was ever expected to help, as the outcry was mostly over GF's usual strange decisions: not giving the strongest fire attacker a decent physical fire move.

Nothing can ever help Flareon, except some type of high BP priority Fire move exclusive to it. It's generally better off with some support moves, anyway, as ironic as it may be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:53:01 No.17106159 Report

Quoted By: >>17106197

>>17105963
only blaziken can baton pass speed bosst. other wise flareon role is different. flame charge then baton pass to something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:55:29 No.17106197 Report

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>>17106159
>using a spot on your team for Flame Charge Baton Pass Flareon
What a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 17:56:52 No.17106223 Report

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>>17105791
It's Eeveefags, man, they want their precious cancer beings to be absolutely perfect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:00:01 No.17106270 Report

Quoted By: >>17106307 >>17106314

what run on this guy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:02:19 No.17106307 Report

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>>17106270
My heart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:02:46 No.17106314 Report

Quoted By: >>17106341

>>17106270
blizzard
double team
sand attack
wish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:02:51 No.17106315 Report

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Would Flareon be gud with fur coat?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:05:11 No.17106341 Report

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>>17106314

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:08:51 No.17106407 Report

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It doesn't matter what it gets, there will always be plenty of fire Pokémon that can do its job better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:24:44 No.17106668 Report

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Presenting, the only usable set for this thing

Flareon @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Facade
- Superpower
- Flame Charge

You're walled by Chandelure, but Bite isn't worth replacing anything else for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:24:49 No.17106671 Report

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why is he so perfect ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2014 18:28:01 No.17106720 Report

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>>17106112

Sadly, its support set is outclassed by Delphox now, and Delphox isn't even good at Wishpassing.

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