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Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:30:14 No.17147584 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17147614 >>17147660 >>17148369

>Pokebank was a complete failure. Hacked mons got through and the servers crash on day one. They had plenty of time to figure this shit out.
>The final version of X and Y was glitchy and poorly coded, allowing software like the Battle Analyzer to exist. Also lol lumiose city bug.
>Creates new type with the sole purpose of balancing out dragons. The type table is more broken than before and those few dragon types that dominated in 5th gen are still very dominant. Somehow ice types are more worthless and under-used than before.

In this thread, GF and Nintendo fuck-ups. Seriously, what happened gen?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:32:01 No.17147614 Report

Quoted By: >>17147660

>>17147584
>Very few new Pokemon.
>Mega Evos on Pokemon that didn't need them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:36:12 No.17147660 Report

Quoted By: >>17147705 >>17148586

>>17147584
>Pokebank was a complete failure. Hacked mons got through and the servers crash on day one. They had plenty of time to figure this shit out.
It'll be a "complete failure" if it never goes up. Otherwise it's a temporary irritation that we'll al forget about eventually. I do hope that they fix the hack filters, though.
>The final version of X and Y was glitchy and poorly coded, allowing software like the Battle Analyzer to exist.
Fixed.
>Also lol lumiose city bug.
Fixed.

>>17147614
>Very few new Pokemon.
Yeah, this is a bit disappointing.
>Mega Evos on Pokemon that didn't need them.
So don't use them. I don't see a problem with this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:38:22 No.17147690 Report

Quoted By: >>17147754 >>17147993

>No post game at all.
>Your rivals/friends are cringe worthy and annoying.
>The most boring single player adventure so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:39:26 No.17147704 Report

Quoted By: >>17147768 >>17147837

The biggest change from 5 to 6 is the crit change.

Crits happen every match, and Focus Energy is more viable.

The only other noteworthy changes are the steel resistance chances, and also the buff to Knock Off and Foul Play.

Also, Fairy typing is rushed as fuck, Dark and Fighting didn't need more problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:39:28 No.17147705 Report

Quoted By: >>17147765

>>17147660
The bug issues should have never been a problem to begin with. The Lumiose one seems like a pretty big hole to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:42:05 No.17147754 Report

Quoted By: >>17147814

>>17147690
>no paid dlc
>release paid dlc to one region
>shitstorm
>one region totally dominates wifi because of it, all others suffer

t-t-thanks gamefreak, im sure glad i started playing pokemon again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:42:30 No.17147765 Report

Quoted By: >>17147851

>>17147705

Maybe, but I don't think it's worse than bugs in past Pokemon games.

Remember the Zoroark glitch in B/W2? Maybe you don't, because it was fixed in the international release, but it was a major, unfixable game-breaking problem in the Japanese version. Some bugs are the price that we pay for simultaneous release, and we're just lucky that they have ways to patch them now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:42:44 No.17147768 Report

Quoted By: >>17147823

>>17147704
The whole game feels rushed. A lot of people were saying something like "I'll buy a 3DS when Pokemon comes out." Nintendo knew this, and put pressure on Gamefreak to release something sooner. This would explain the lumiose bug and typing problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:42:58 No.17147776 Report

Quoted By: >>17147811 >>17147824

I prefer few new ones than a crapload of shit ones, aka gen 5.

>Shit-tier starters
>My Little Pony legendaries
>Sesame Street sumo guys
>Palette Swap cloud genies
>Palette Swap Monkeys (hurr we got sooooo many new, unique pokemon!)
>For some reason, a shit ton of Grass-types (some of them are pretty good though, I guess)

Also didn't help that it was the first generation of pokemon to not debut on a new hardware with actual technological improvements. Freaking 2D battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:44:59 No.17147811 Report

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>>17147776
Keldeo was made and coded before the new series of MLP aired you fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:45:08 No.17147814 Report

Quoted By: >>17147843 >>17147906

>>17147754

>one region totally dominates wifi because of it, all others suffer

So you'd rather have EVERYONE use teams full of shiny, pentaperfect hacked legendaries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:45:56 No.17147823 Report

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>>17147768
I'll admit it I bought a DS for X and Y. I hadn't played Pokemon in years and it reminded me of Pokemon Stadium.

Yes the graphics in battles are pretty good for the most part like I wanted, but basically yeah, everything feels rushed. Sky battles? Garbage. Riding Pokemon? Garbage. O-Powers? Not worth messing with when you just stick a twist tie under your analog stick and do laps around the tower.

Bank is the only saving grace for this game, and that's why people want it so bad.

Mr. Pokemon !D0842i3RdA

Mr. Pokemon !D0842i3RdA Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:45:56 No.17147824 Report

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>>17147776
So I'm assuming you hate Ponyta and Rapidash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:46:41 No.17147837 Report

Quoted By: >>17147868

>>17147704
Someone please try to justify Fairy resisting Bug. Bug already had shit neutral coverage; why did they feel the need to nerf a type with so many problems to begin with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:46:58 No.17147843 Report

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>>17147814
>teams full of shiny,
Confirmed for autism
>pentaperfect hacked legendaries
Confirmed for never battling

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:47:22 No.17147851 Report

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>>17147765
That is true. And I'm not disagreeing with you entirely, it is great we can patch things that get through. I just feel like GF and especially Nintendo are large enough now that they should be able to do extensive game testing for this stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:48:02 No.17147868 Report

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>>17147837
Hey goy at least we gave your precious bug types Fell Stinger!

Pfft... hahah.. DON'T FORGET TO BUY Z YOU DUMB GOY!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:49:59 No.17147906 Report

Quoted By: >>17148527

>>17147814
To be brutally honest, yes, it would make things far more balanced. Also if they do fix the bank's way of checking for hacks, they could later apply a patch that checks for them on wifi as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:52:15 No.17147962 Report

Quoted By: >>17148023

ITT: people with shit opinions and people basing those shit opinions on false info

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Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:53:56 No.17147993 Report

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>>17147690
>Exists post game solely to trade you one starter Pokemon and sit outside your house FOREVER.

I don't understand why Serena is the only rival/friend we can battle post game. Why can't we battle the other 3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:55:52 No.17148023 Report

Quoted By: >>17148168

>>17147962
And you're trying to say none of this is a problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 05:59:29 No.17148088 Report

Quoted By: >>17148128

>Introduce new Fairy type
>Pokemon that could benefit from it like Audino and the Pixie trio remain single type

Do we even know if Cresselia is fairy yet? I'm betting it's not because Game Freak can't use logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:02:22 No.17148128 Report

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>>17148088
Serebii still has it listed as mono-psychic type. So I'm assuming its not getting Fairy type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:04:26 No.17148168 Report

Quoted By: >>17148220

>>17148023
>Luminose save glitch
>it was patched and fixed even though only a small amount of people ever reported it

>Battle Analyzer was patched out

>Pokemon Bank was held back due to Nintendo, not Game Freak, and the hack checks did what they were intended to do: to stop obvious hacks.

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:06:53 No.17148220 Report

Quoted By: >>17148268 >>17148312

>>17148168
Nintentard detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:08:57 No.17148268 Report

Quoted By: >>17148309

>>17148220
But I just blamed Nintendo for Pokemon Bank's flubbed rollout, you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:11:04 No.17148309 Report

Quoted By: >>17148322

>>17148268
>Yeah, I don't see anything wrong here
How's that Nintendick taste you cocksucker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:11:11 No.17148312 Report

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>>17148220
But he blamed Nintendo for the failed roll out?

And honestly, a lot of this feels like its directly or indirectly Nintendo's fault, not GF. But most of this was fixed anyway. Only issue I have is the late Bank release and the poor type table at the moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:11:50 No.17148322 Report

Quoted By: >>17148351

>>17148309
I'm just gonna ignore you for now on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:13:35 No.17148351 Report

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>>17148322
Yeah just ignore everything in your life that pains you and blindly sucking that corporate cock, maybe one day they'll pay you for your work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:14:37 No.17148369 Report

Quoted By: >>17148392

>>17147584
Vivillion's. I've been trying to collect them all, but nooooooo, Sandstorm, Monsoon, Icysnow are fuckers because no one trades them unless it's for a bankmon legend. I swear to god, I'd bet you that there are more shiny Vivillion's than those three put together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:15:47 No.17148392 Report

Quoted By: >>17148481

>>17148369
It's because they only exist in places where people don't actually live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:16:26 No.17148402 Report

Quoted By: >>17148448 >>17148469 >>17148549

>Lumiose Save Bug
>this shit existing implies not a single tester saved in Lumiose before shutting it off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:19:52 No.17148448 Report

Quoted By: >>17148555

>>17148402
Or, you know, that they did and never encountered the bug which explains why it only ever affected such a small amount of people

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:21:17 No.17148469 Report

Quoted By: >>17148555

>>17148402

It wasn't a thing that would happen 100% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:21:51 No.17148481 Report

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>>17148392
>Meanwhile, in Antarctica. The one fucker with a 3DS and Pokemon that lives there does nothing but trade out Vivillion for ridiculous legendary mons in return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:24:04 No.17148527 Report

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>>17147906
>Also if they do fix the bank's way of checking for hacks, they could later apply a patch that checks for them on wifi as well.
I'd honestly prefer that they only did the latter. I suspect there are people out there with hacked 'mons that they unknowingly got through the GTS, and it'd be a shame to penalize them for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:25:27 No.17148549 Report

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>>17148402
You know, I'm willing to bet that they don't stress test saving in different places. Because once you know your save function works, why would you test every single tile of the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:25:53 No.17148555 Report

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>>17148448
>>17148469

Still, lets look Lumiose for a second. I will give you that the bug was rare and could have been over-looked. But look at how much happens in that one city. There is a lot taking place there that the game needs to process. Plus the camera angles constantly changing... which I'm not a huge fan as to how they handled that, but its their first game doing this so I'll cut them a bit of slack. Anyway, considering how much goes on there at once and how your camera is constantly changing, you'd think they'd pay a little extra attention to Lumiose and making sure everything worked. Maybe they did and the bug still slipped through. But just a thought. At least they found it and fixed it quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:27:12 No.17148586 Report

Quoted By: >>17148638 >>17148645

>>17147660
I think the issue is that there are Pokemon needing a buff while gamefreak decided to buff already strong pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:29:35 No.17148638 Report

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>>17148586
This is difficult since not every Pokemon is meant to be an end-game power-house. Some obvious things like Raticate or Vivillion should be made to be balanced in the early game, but maybe over-powered late game. One way they could fix this is by giving hidden ability/moves to these weaker pokes that are only accessed in the post game. Something like Gale Wings Talonflame, for example. Maybe not quite as strong, but just an example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 05 Jan 2014 06:29:58 No.17148645 Report

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>>17148586
But Gamefreak buffed lots of pokemon! For example, Azumarill got more Sp. Atk, isn't that awesome? Now he's a viable special attacker!

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