>>17185368Guts is just in case you're poisoned. The set doesn't revolve around it. Oh no, the move has recoil. Clearly there's no reason to use it. And anyone who waists time setting up while under toxic without a form of recovery deserves to lose anyway. You start by setting up, no one thinks a Flareon is a threat. 70 BP on Facade even without being toxed isn't great, but it's also not bad. And that Flare Blitz will hurt, no question. Flareon's useable, people just like to spout "no moves" because it's funny, which it's not anymore
