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Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:20:37 No.17250836 View View Reply Original Report

>Team help thread: share your tips and help others out

Here's a tip: on pure special attackers set their physical attack to absolute zero; it'll drastically reduce the damage Foul Play does

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:21:53 No.17250857 Report

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If you use Sunny Day, all Fire attacks are boosted in damage! And Solar Beam no longer needs to charge up!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:24:48 No.17250918 Report

Quoted By: >>17250963 >>17252536

Ideal moveset for Charizard:

Flamethrower
Fire Blast
Hyper Beam
Fly

He should hold Charcoal too for even more Fire damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:26:38 No.17250963 Report

Quoted By: >>17251335 >>17251379

>>17250918
>Hyper beam
>Not blast burn
Nigga wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:31:04 No.17251045 Report

Quoted By: >>17251388 >>17251566 >>17251686 >>17251796

Does this count as an RMT?
I know the team isn't all that great, but I would like some comments other than "That's bad."

(Greninja) (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Surf
- Extrasensory

月食 (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 178 HP / 80 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
- Payback
- Protect
- Toxic
- Substitute

Togekiss (F) @ Red Card
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Air Slash
- Dazzling Gleam
- Roost

Gar NOM NOM NOM (Garchomp) @ Garchompite
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Swords Dance
- Fire Fang

(Scizor) (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- U-turn
- Bug Bite

(Azelf) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
- Trick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:33:47 No.17251118 Report

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>>17250836
This, alongside an Attack reducing nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:44:00 No.17251335 Report

Quoted By: >>17251482

>>17250963
It's for coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:44:16 No.17251342 Report

Quoted By: >>17251535

Don't U-Turn/Volt Switch to kill an opponent, they'll see your Pokemon first, giving them the advantage. I see this shit so often and NOBODY knows this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:45:55 No.17251379 Report

Quoted By: >>17251420

>>17250963
wats a blast burn
ive played all the games (red blue yellow gold silver AND crystal) and ive never seen taht move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:46:06 No.17251388 Report

Quoted By: >>17251457 >>17251483

>>17251045

>Shiny: Yes

Why did you feel the need?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:47:27 No.17251420 Report

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>>17251379
its charzards best move. it kills everything in one hit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:49:02 No.17251457 Report

Quoted By: >>17251483

>>17251388
Probably cuntpasted from Showdown. Regardless he's mah nigga for running Shiny Umbreon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:50:29 No.17251482 Report

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>>17251335
That's stupid. Charizard needs flamethrower/fireblast/blast burn to kill everything, since he has a charcoal on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:50:29 No.17251483 Report

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>>17251388
Taken straight from the Showdown file.
>>17251457
Mah nigga indeed.
I have one on my cart, same name, albeit in romaji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:53:05 No.17251534 Report

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please rate my team guys

Tyranitar @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Superpower

Aron @ Shell Bell
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 1
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Impish Nature
- Endeavor
- Protect
- Roar
- Toxic

Donphan @ Shell Bell
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 25
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Impish Nature
- Endeavor
- Ice Shard
- Protect
- Rapid Spin

Treecko @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unburden
Level: 1
EVs: 116 Spd / -84 Atk / 252 SAtk
Lonely Nature
- Endeavor
- Quick Attack
- Protect
- Leaf Storm

Togekiss @ Focus Sash
Ability: Super Luck
Level: 2
EVs: 156 SDef / 196 Atk
Careful Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Endeavor
- Protect
- Yawn

Rattata @ Focus Sash
Ability: Guts
Level: 1
EVs: 100 Spd / 228 Atk / 180 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Quick Attack
- Endeavor
- Protect
- Pursuit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:53:07 No.17251535 Report

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>>17251342
Sometimes it's advantageous to do so. Like if you know they could send something out to set up on you, or if you can't risk them switching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:54:28 No.17251566 Report

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>>17251045

Not a criticism, but can I ask why you'd use Choice Specs on Greninja? I mean, one of its best features is getting STAB on every move, meaning you can handle switches and predictions really well. Just curious if there's a reason other than extra power.

Rest of your team is pretty standard, nothing to say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 00:59:53 No.17251686 Report

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>>17251045
probably not around anymore but.
>Change Greninja's Item to LO
>put foul play for payback on Umbreon, it wrecks errybody
>Might want to try mixed attacker chomp, and drop Swords dance for something to use against fairies
>interesting azelf, don't like it, but it's not bad

Benjamin(0920-0541-0217)

Benjamin(0920-0541-0217) Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:03:45 No.17251765 Report

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Honestly... I've been using a fully bred and max ev goodra in hp and defense with leftover and acid armor.... I'm really enjoying this bulk! Sadly it's sp. defense isn't standing up to what I thought?

Benjamin(0920-0541-0217)

Benjamin(0920-0541-0217) Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:05:08 No.17251796 Report

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>>17251045
Yes! Finally a set I can run for a umbreon! I have a shiny eevee that's just asking to be a umbreon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:06:18 No.17251822 Report

Quoted By: >>17251873

>tfw I'm the only one who runs a Physical Grenny
>Adamant/Jolly
>@King's Rock
>Protean
>Waterfall
>U-turn
>Rock Slide
>Extrasensory/Shadow Sneak

And here's a set my friend recommended by sweeping me with it
>Aurorus @ Weakness Policy
>Snow Warning/Refrigerate
>Rock Polish
>Freeze Dry/Blizzard
>Stone Edge
>Filler

Matt 1693 1650 6262

Matt 1693 1650 6262 Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:08:25 No.17251873 Report

Quoted By: >>17251954

>>17251822
>King's Rock
>Not water shuriken
then what's the fucking point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:09:30 No.17251892 Report

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Top tip: If you're using Talonflame, Charizard Volcarona or god forbid more than one of those, use something that can get rid of Stealth Rocks or make sure it's not set up. I've barely fought any Talonflames properly because people don't remember this, or think Roost will be sufficient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:11:08 No.17251921 Report

Quoted By: >>17252473 >>17252850

I'm using a max def Cofagrigus with Haze, wow, disable and psychic. I want to partner it with a sp.def Mandibuzz. I'm worried I won't be able to take on Mega Milfs and stuff though, what moves should I give to my Mandibuzz, anything I should change on my Cofagrigus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:12:40 No.17251954 Report

Quoted By: >>17252029 >>17252151

>>17251873
>Sawk used Quick Guard
And does King's Rock stack with flinch moves or no?

Matt 1693 1650 6262

Matt 1693 1650 6262 Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:15:42 No.17252029 Report

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>>17251954
>Sawk
>Quick guard
top lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:21:40 No.17252151 Report

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>>17251954

Quick Guard isn't a great reason not to use priority. And yes, it does.

Your answer should have been that Greninja doesn't have Skill Link. Though, it's still kinda worth it.

Shame Greninja doesn't have more physical moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:34:33 No.17252431 Report

Quoted By: >>17252759

I may sound dumb but was done "ggwp" mean?
also rate muh UU team

Whimsicott @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 160 Def / 100 SDef
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Taunt
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- U-turn

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 164 SDef / 252 HP / 92 Def
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Foul Play
- Wish
- Toxic
- Heal Bell

Scolipede @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Jolly Nature
- Spikes
- Protect
- Megahorn
- Baton Pass

Medicham @ Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Drain Punch
- Zen Headbutt
- Bullet Punch
- Fire Punch

Kingdra @ Scope Lens
Ability: Sniper
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Flash Cannon
- Focus Energy
- Scald

Chandelure @ Air Balloon
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Energy Ball
- Flamethrower
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:36:28 No.17252473 Report

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>>17251921
Swap Psychic for Hex, it hits hard + STAB if your opponent's already been burned or poisoned by Mandibuzz (assuming you run Toxic on it.)
I recommend that you burn Mega Milf and get the hell out of there if the situation rises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:39:46 No.17252536 Report

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>>17250918
>no Fire Spin

Nigga, do you even watch the anime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:49:33 No.17252759 Report

Quoted By: >>17253489

>>17252431
Good game well played.
And excellent team, creative and functional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 01:53:56 No.17252850 Report

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>>17251921
I used to run a Cofagrigus in 5th Gen I used to battle, it was similar, only I ran Rest, Haze, Shadow Ball, and WoW. Rest was for healing, to keep it around longer. It worked pretty well. If you run your set, just make sure you run a Wish passer to heal Cofagrigus, and I would prefer to use STAB over Psychic. Shadow Ball will hit for more, and will be SE to Ghosts. If you worry about getting walled by a Normal type, you shouldn't because that's not Cofagrigus' purpose in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 02:04:36 No.17253101 Report

Quoted By: >>17253128 >>17253195 >>17253294

So how can this guy be good? I mean, yeah he hits hard as hell, but about that speed.. moveset? Can he get any priority moves?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 02:05:48 No.17253128 Report

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>>17253101
forgot pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 02:08:56 No.17253195 Report

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>>17253101

Honestly, just run him for the massive attack. I once got wrecked online by 1 in the late game, when most of my mon's were weakened and he killed my Rapid Spinner. All it had to do was use Close Combat and Feint.

Feint always hits, and it's got +2 Priority, so everything but a faster extreme speed user still gets hit by it. Feint is seriously an amazing move this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 02:13:01 No.17253294 Report

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>>17253101
I use him on my bug team, and he wrecks shit.
He is pretty slow though, so I pass speed from a speed boost scoliopede. Even better if I pass swords dance along with it. +2 STAB arm thrust or pin missle with skill link destroys everything, and dat bulk doesnt hurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 02:21:09 No.17253489 Report

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>>17252759
thanks m8
Doesn't feel like it has enough raw power, but I'll go a few rounds with it to get a better feel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 02:22:50 No.17253538 Report

Quoted By: >>17253875

Got a team in the works, 3 poke's so far, and want a tip or two for what to include in it

So far I have

Mamoswine
Ability: Thick Fat
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant
Ice Shard
URFQUAKE
Icicle Crash
??? (maybe Stealth Rock?)

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 Def
Modest
Thunderbolt
Will-o-Wisp
HYDRO POMPE
Volt Switch

Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
Ability: Mega Launcher
252 SpA / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Modest
Water Pulse/Hydro Pump
Dark Pulse
Aura Sphere
Rapid Spin

I'm new to teambuilding, and tips for what to change/add would be much appreciated

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jan 2014 02:36:55 No.17253875 Report

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>>17253538

For Mamoswine you probably want Stealth Rocks in the fourth spot. Also instead of Ice Crash use Spear, it's a lot better. Nothing better than breaking an annoying Gliscor's sub and then killing it.

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