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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:10:59 No.17344026 View View Reply Original Report

>There is now an attack version of eviolite

How would it affect the metagame?What pokemon would be bumped a tier or two with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:12:29 No.17344049 Report

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>This thread again

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:12:58 No.17344059 Report

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>>17344026
Schyter is at least UU now even with rocks around.

LC would be hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:13:05 No.17344060 Report

Quoted By: >>17344468 >>17344474 >>17345428

I think I'd rather see a new status condition that functions like burn but lowers Special Attack instead of Attack.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:13:31 No.17344073 Report

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>This thread again

Conner [3496-9945-2593] (Toxicroak, Garbador, Seviper)

Conner [3496-9945-2593] (Toxicroak, Garbador, Seviper) Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:14:26 No.17344084 Report

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Cranidos in LC my God

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:16:45 No.17344125 Report

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Kadabra would actually be sort of viable.

Also, zweilous with hustle would move up to RU maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:16:59 No.17344128 Report

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Fucking trapinch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:17:22 No.17344137 Report

Quoted By: >>17344324 >>17345625

>rhydon
>based 195 Atk

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:18:19 No.17344150 Report

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even more frail sweepers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:21:27 No.17344197 Report

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Not many pokemon because of speed and defense issues (mostly speed). Little Cup on the other hand would go back to pre gen V levels of ultra offensive metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:22:44 No.17344213 Report

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Porygon2 would be pretty good with attack Eviolite ,too.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:27:44 No.17344315 Report

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Rhydon would be terrifying except for the fact that it's slow and has terrible special defense. It would be UU at the very highest, but most likely RU.

Fraxure would have the same problem.

It would actually make Voltorb pretty good. Haunter would wreck shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:28:08 No.17344324 Report

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>>17344137
Is actually even more.

Max Attack Rhydon hits 394 Attack, a 50% boost makes it 591.

That's roughly base 220.

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Desmond 1392 5216 6630 (Sigilyph, Munna, Gothorita) Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:30:21 No.17344362 Report

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Golbat is already bulky and is a nice wall in NFE with Eviolite....Golbat with the decent bulk and high Atk/SpA would be pretty powerful...Brave Bird/Cross Poison would be powerful with his 90 base Speed.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:32:20 No.17344400 Report

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>attackiolite hustle zweilous

pls no

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:34:25 No.17344430 Report

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>>17344400
>Attackiolite Hustle Nidorino
>Hone Claws
>Sucker Punch

Is frail compared to Zweilows, but it have Priority, and a way to ignore the accuracy boost of Hustle.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:35:28 No.17344450 Report

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>>17344430
>Accuracy Boost

I mean drop.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:36:29 No.17344463 Report

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Fletchinder and Doublade would make decent use of the item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:36:50 No.17344468 Report

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>>17344060
Make it for ground types.

Lowers special attack but also anyone inflicted takes more damage from physical moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:37:06 No.17344474 Report

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>>17344060
Special Attack is already significantly worse than Attack, a status effect like that would make it complete ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:37:45 No.17344483 Report

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Scyther and Rhydon would be pretty great with an eviofight.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:38:03 No.17344489 Report

Quoted By: >>17344867 >>17346147

>>17344474
>Significantly worse than Attack
>No status condition that near-irreversibly halves its offensive prowess

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:47:25 No.17344630 Report

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>>17344483
Rhydon is already better than it's evo. With Eviofight, it'd straight up outclass it in every way.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:49:05 No.17344652 Report

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pikachu gets shit now that everyone has a light ball

BUT I CAN FINALLY RUN PICHU

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:51:07 No.17344696 Report

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> What if speed eviolite?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:52:20 No.17344709 Report

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>>17344630
But rhydon isn't better than rhyperior. With no items, rhydon is worse than rhyperior in every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:54:41 No.17344753 Report

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Speed Boost Combusken?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:55:40 No.17344767 Report

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>Rhydon
>Scyther
>Doublade
>Porygon2 (eviolite boosts both, so should eviofight)

Maybe Fraxure and Zweilous would also see some use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:55:49 No.17344773 Report

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Combusken would be banned.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:57:51 No.17344811 Report

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Would Vigoroth be viable?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 19:58:02 No.17344816 Report

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>>17344652
Light Ball is 2x
Eviofight is 1.5

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:00:09 No.17344851 Report

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roselia?
muchlax could probably work something with that
kadabra for sure
fraxure
shelgon
seadra
duosion would wreck shit
haunter maybe?
magneton for sure

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:00:31 No.17344863 Report

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Good for Haunter.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:00:38 No.17344867 Report

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>>17344489
Most special moves have lower BP than their physical counterparts.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:00:43 No.17344870 Report

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>>17344753
>>17344773
>Rise of the Cock

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:30:25 No.17345385 Report

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>>17344867
that's because most physical counterparts have a negative side effect, like flare blitz having 10 base power more than fire blast but having huge recoil. not to mention most physical attacks make contact so you make yourself vulnerable to all those abilities and moves activated by contact

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:32:28 No.17345428 Report

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>>17344060
Wish granted. It's for water types, the effect is "wet", and it somehow takes a chunk of your health away each turn. Doesn't affect water types. All water types now have 500 BST minimum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:35:18 No.17345486 Report

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>>17345428
And it's not an ability, it's a gimmick of its type, every water type has it. More or less like grass being immune to spore.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:36:40 No.17345508 Report

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>>17345486
Water is now super effective against grass because tidal waves destroy trees.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:41:09 No.17345583 Report

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I think Scyther would be happy. But it might be too slow.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:43:35 No.17345625 Report

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>>17344137
>every fucking thread there's another guy who has no idea how base stats work.
Damn, where are you people coming from?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 20:51:13 No.17345743 Report

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>>17345508
>implying fire doesn't evaporate water

The better question for the thread is if any prevo would go full Dusclops and be better than its evo with this item?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 21:02:46 No.17345954 Report

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>>17345743

Well, Rhydon definitely does. I think Magmar and Electabuzz could be better than their evos too, not that those are great to begin with.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 21:07:07 No.17346033 Report

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>>17345583
>105 base speed
>slow at all

Sneasel would be really stronk. Sneasel and Scyther would probably be the pokes who'd benefit the most. Gurdurr likes it as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 21:12:20 No.17346132 Report

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Fletchinder could be somewhat useful, firing off STAB priority Brave Birds off effectively 135 base attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 21:13:11 No.17346147 Report

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>>17344489
>lower BP or accuracy on many Special attacks, strongest moves either halve Special Attack or require a charge turn
>others are heavily reliant on weather
>only one Special priority move
>distribution of Swords Dance versus Nasty Plot
>distribution of Dragon Dance versus Quiver Dance
>distribution of Belly Drum versus Tail Glow
>Blissey has been the default response to Special offense for literally over a decade, anything that can muscle past her is the exception and not the rule
Many Special Attackers would kill for special variants of Double-Edge, to say nothing of alt-typed Vacuum Wave and shit.
>>17346132
Fletchinder doesn't get Brave Bird or Flare Blitz, sorry.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 21:30:54 No.17346449 Report

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Magneton. Faster than Magnezone and now hits harder. Explosion becomes an option again.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Jan 2014 21:35:04 No.17346526 Report

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>>17346449
>Explosion becomes an option again.

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