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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:06:16 No.17381597 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17381619 >>17381717 >>17384489

How should I run this guy? I was thinking:

(Frisk) Choice specs
Modest 252 spAtt 252 Spud 4HP
-switcheroo
-boom burst
-draco meteor
-hurricane

I just bred a 31/x/31/31/31/31 and wanted to use it in maison for both single and multi (with roomate). And competitively against my friends. Is this set ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:07:27 No.17381619 Report

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>>17381597
Shit!
> inb4 spud

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:14:00 No.17381717 Report

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>>17381597

>spud

I use Air Slash/Boomburst/Flamethrower/Draco Meteor@Life Orb with Infiltrator. Boomburst's usefulness is debatable but it can 2HKO almost everything Meteor can and you don't have to switch out after using it once or twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:22:13 No.17381831 Report

Quoted By: >>17381843 >>17382568

Gives it a scarf, and get u-turn on it. With that speed you're sure to either cripple or escape, and you get to know the opponents hold item, which is great for guess the mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:23:15 No.17381843 Report

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>>17381831
Also it should be timid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:37:38 No.17382038 Report

Quoted By: >>17382651 >>17382739

I feel like running timid is a waste because it naturally outspeeds most things uninvested and it desperately needs as much spAt to compensate for it's average base stat. I would run uturn, but I can't see giving up any of the other three moves. Perhaps if I was not intending on using it in multi battle, but the fact that it hits two enemies at that BP is too good for me to pass up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:45:31 No.17382119 Report

Quoted By: >>17382500

Noivern @ Choice Specs
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Focus Blast
- Flamethrower
- Switcheroo/U-turn/Hurricane/Air Slash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 09:20:03 No.17382500 Report

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>>17382119
Flamethrower and focus blast are great for coverage, don't get me wrong, but I don't think that noivern has the defenses to stay in and be an all purpose sweeper. He mostly relies on hit and run tactics or late game sweeping with niches of threatening stallers via either boomburst to hit through subs or switcheroo.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 09:26:17 No.17382568 Report

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>>17381831
I actually quite like this idea. Has a physical noivern ever been considered?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 09:34:59 No.17382651 Report

Quoted By: >>17382720

>>17382038
It does hit your ally too though, plus spread moves have their power reduced to 2/3 of what it usually is in multi battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 09:41:50 No.17382720 Report

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>>17382651
I know it hits your partner too. But in a vane similar to earthquake, there are work arounds. Use a ghost pokemon or protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 09:43:46 No.17382739 Report

Quoted By: >>17382771

>>17382038
Will it outspeed a fully invested timid Latios with a modest nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 09:48:07 No.17382771 Report

Quoted By: >>17383437

>>17382739
Will it outspeed a fully invested choice scarf alakazam? Fuck no. Switch out to your wall/tank. This isn't rocket science. It outspeeds MOST things. Not everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 11:18:30 No.17383437 Report

Quoted By: >>17383683 >>17383969

>>17382771
>most things
Except the ones it should, and the ones it can, it lacks the bulk to take them down.

You'll get ice beamed without having the chance to U-turn by many things. And what's sad is that those pokemon won't even carry ice beam for Noivern, he just happens to be 4x weak to it.

Also
>shit accuracy and bad side effect moves
Not even once

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 11:46:50 No.17383683 Report

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>>17383437
If I wanted to run Smogon: The team; the definitive experience; the sequel; the motion picture... I wouldn't run noivern.
> implying focus miss has better accuracy
Boom burst is what really does it for me. That and frisk are it's biggest niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 12:16:26 No.17383969 Report

Quoted By: >>17384359 >>17384380

>>17383437
> what's sad is that mega manectric doesn't even carry volt switch to counter starmie... she's just naturally weak to it!

Well herp fucking derp. What is coverag? Fucking a. You are retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 12:52:20 No.17384359 Report

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>>17383969
You stupid cunt

that's not even why Manetric has Volt Switch

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 12:54:13 No.17384380 Report

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>>17383969
he would also shitwreck Noivern btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 13:02:01 No.17384489 Report

Quoted By: >>17384506

>>17381597
Here's what I run, OP:
31/31/31/31/31/31
Timid, 252 SpA, 252 Speed, 4 Def
(Choice Specs)
Boomburst
Hurricane (it hits more than I'd have thought)
Roost
Flamethrower

Works well enough for me, and I enjoy using him to boot. Sorry for the format btw, I'm on mobile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 13:03:59 No.17384506 Report

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>>17384489
Forgot to mention that I run frisk. Let's me see if there's a mega coming my way or whatever. Bad matchup? Switch out.

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