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Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:21:11 No.17396268 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17396433 >>17396443 >>17396542 >>17398720

Is Gengar the strongest non-Uber Pokémon? Him and Starmie are the only Pokémon that have been OU for six generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:28:01 No.17396433 Report

Quoted By: >>17396462 >>17396616

>>17396268
>Is Gengar the strongest non-Uber Pokémon?
He has a great Spa and Spe but his moves are pretty low bp, and he is as resilient as a wet paper bag.

Do you mean strongest as in sheer attacking power or all-around strongest?

Talonflame has the strongest priority attack with Brave Bird.

Alexander 3695-0573-5304

Alexander 3695-0573-5304 Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:28:00 No.17396435 Report

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High speed, high special attack, great coverage moves.
Immune to normal, fighting, ground-quake.

I'd say you've got a winning poke.

Strongest non-Uber? "Stongest" wouldn't be the word I'd use. Gengar is just a mon that has perfectly balanced stats and moves and has always had a niche.

JonnieFAST

JonnieFAST Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:28:41 No.17396443 Report

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>>17396268
>>17396268

gengar kinda sucks this gen.
way to frail with all the priority moves floating around

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:29:14 No.17396462 Report

Quoted By: >>17396517 >>17396567 >>17396648

>>17396433
>but his moves are pretty low bp,
>Sludge bomb,boltbeam,explosion,focus punch,shadow ball
>low bp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:31:16 No.17396517 Report

Quoted By: >>17396556

>>17396462
Pretty much every move is sub 100bp. It does have great coverage though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:32:17 No.17396542 Report

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>>17396268
>smogon
lel

Being OU means it's overused, not that it's the strongest, fucking babby

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:32:55 No.17396556 Report

Quoted By: >>17397390

>>17396517
i thought anything below 60 is low BP

You must be playing Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:33:10 No.17396567 Report

Quoted By: >>17396595

>>17396462
Gengar doesn't get Ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:33:58 No.17396595 Report

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>>17396567
I meant Elepunches in Gen 2

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:34:28 No.17396608 Report

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Gengar appreciation thread?
Gengar appreciation thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:34:49 No.17396616 Report

Quoted By: >>17396683

>>17396433
I suppose I should have said 'consistently good' instead of strongest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:36:29 No.17396648 Report

Quoted By: >>17396689 >>17396717

>>17396462
>SHadow ball
>high BP

Thats like saying Return is a good coverage move

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:36:52 No.17396658 Report

Quoted By: >>17396683

Talonflame looks like the pokemon who would divebomb down to RU/NU as soon as the next Generation.... hell maybe even game(Pokemon Z) comes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:37:41 No.17396683 Report

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>>17396616
Well, then yeah.

He has a great stat distribution, typing, movepool, and stabs.

>>17396658
CB Talonflame is nothing to scoff at. Oneof the best revenge killers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:37:50 No.17396688 Report

Quoted By: >>17396847

>implabbing that Starmie will remain OU this gen

Anyway, no I wouldn't consider him the strongest in any sense of the term, but he's definitely the most consistent mon throughout the franchise's history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:37:56 No.17396689 Report

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>>17396648
I didn't say Shadow Ball is a high BP move

But it definitely isn't low like Hidden Power and Aerial Ace

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:39:04 No.17396717 Report

Quoted By: >>17396746

>>17396648
Neutral on everything not Rock, Steel or Ghost.
Covers pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:40:12 No.17396746 Report

Quoted By: >>17396772 >>17396827 >>17396855

>>17396717
>Neutral on everything not Rock, Steel or Ghost.
>Rock, Steel
I thought it was neutral to that too? Did that change this gen, or am I just really, really slow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:41:19 No.17396772 Report

Quoted By: >>17396810

>>17396746
I'm responding to Return not being a coverage move.
It has nothing to do with Shadow Ball.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:42:41 No.17396810 Report

Quoted By: >>17396827

>>17396772
I know. I'm talking about Return too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:43:04 No.17396818 Report

Quoted By: >>17396835

In the history of Pokemon, I believe the strongest non-uber Pokemon was Alakazam, being basically a weaker Mewtwo during the days when Psychic was broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:43:35 No.17396827 Report

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>>17396746
>>17396810

Steel and rock both resist normal moves, and ghost is immune to them. It's been this way since Gen I, or Gen II in steel's case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:43:51 No.17396835 Report

Quoted By: >>17397061

>>17396818
>Not Tauros

Step it up Senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:44:21 No.17396847 Report

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>>17396688
>implabbing that Starmie will remain OU this gen
Yep.

Excadrill is probablygoing to stay OU, and replace Starmie as the star rapid spinner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:44:53 No.17396855 Report

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>>17396746
>Normal
>being neutral against Rock and Steel
>ever

Have you ever actually played a pokemon game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:50:59 No.17396983 Report

Quoted By: >>17397016

Even though Starmie might drop there's no way I would ever drop her from my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:52:06 No.17397016 Report

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>>17396983
>her

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:53:28 No.17397045 Report

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>>17397016

>Being mad and autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:54:01 No.17397061 Report

Quoted By: >>17397090 >>17397097

>>17396835
I was debating that; Tauros can beat it, but that doesn't necessarily make it more powerful.

Pure power doesn't make you the strongest. Lots of factors are involved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:54:53 No.17397090 Report

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>>17397061
>Pure power doesn't make you the strongest. Lots of factors are involved.
Shit, just look at Rotom-W.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:55:18 No.17397097 Report

Quoted By: >>17397163

>>17397061
Tauros doesn't have Pure Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:58:06 No.17397163 Report

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>>17397097
ba dumm tish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 02:02:47 No.17397254 Report

Quoted By: >>17397343 >>17398814

I like that muh glorious Gen 1 pokemon is still OU.

All gen 1 pokemon should become OP. That way I won't have to see any shitty new gen mons. Like that stupid washing machine. The fuck is that shit gamefreak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 02:06:17 No.17397343 Report

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>>17397254
pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 02:08:43 No.17397390 Report

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>>17396556
Anything at 60 is technician exploitable tier.
80 is decent but it aint no earthquake tier with 100 bp.
We're in the age of Draco Meter, Close Combat, Outrage, Super power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 03:02:19 No.17398720 Report

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>>17396268
no hes the most consistent. theres a few pokemon that have been OU since their introduction (some even went up to uber) but arent given attention because they were introduced after the 151

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 03:05:55 No.17398814 Report

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>>17397254
>Gen one had the best designs!

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