Anonymous
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>>17480929 do the super training first and then you don't need to bother with a reset bag
Anonymous
>>17480929 EV train with hordes
Then level to 50 or whatever
Anonymous
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>Super Training >Not Hordes
Anonymous
first of all, don't use super training to ev train. It's a waste of time and horde battles are faster. Get pokerus, a sweet scenter, and power items.
Anonymous
>>17480968 But getting the wrong horde encounter on a route will fuck up everything.
Anonymous
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>>17481087 or you can just run from that horde...
Anonymous
>>17480980 >power items which are those?
Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier)
Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:13:20 No. 17481101 Report Quoted By:
>>17481087 If you get the wrong horde, just run. No harm done.
Anonymous
>>17481087 Run away
Use a Pomeg/Kelpsy/Qualot/Hondew/Grepa/Tamato berry
Reset
Soltari 4785-5938-9152 (Dark: Sneasel, Vullably, Liepard)
Soltari 4785-5938-9152 (Dark: Sneasel, Vullably, Liepard) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:14:19 No. 17481118 Report Quoted By:
http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/ev-training-hotspots-x-y/ This will tell you everything you need to know about Horde EV training, anon.
Anonymous
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>>17481097 I think the items from battle maison
the power anklet and such
all 16bp each so not so much farming
Mothimas 2406-5246-5028 (Magmar, Slugma, Braxien)
Mothimas 2406-5246-5028 (Magmar, Slugma, Braxien) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:14:35 No. 17481124 Report Quoted By:
>>17481097 Most common is macho brace, which doubles EV gain from mobs.
There's also power brace/lens/band/etc
Anonymous
>>17481104 dude one of those berries only takes 10 effort values from a stat. farming 50 of those berries to reset a mon takes longer than just getting a reset bag.
Anonymous
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>>17481129 Well then don't farm fucking SpAtk hoards when you want HP.
Mothimas 2406-5246-5028 (Magmar, Slugma, Braxien)
Mothimas 2406-5246-5028 (Magmar, Slugma, Braxien) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:18:32 No. 17481152 Report Quoted By:
>>17481129 Play the attraction games on the website. There's a pretty good chance at getting berries from there (3 at a time)
Anonymous
If i start the horde battle with the pokemon i want to IV train, switch it out and defeat the horde with another pokemon, will the other pokemon still get EV's or only if it defeats the horde itself?
Anonymous
Mothimas 2406-5246-5028 (Magmar, Slugma, Braxien)
Mothimas 2406-5246-5028 (Magmar, Slugma, Braxien) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:21:20 No. 17481175 Report Quoted By:
>>17481164 still gets the EVs.
Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier)
Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:22:20 No. 17481184 Report >>17481164 It''ll still get them. With the EXP share you don't actually have to put them in the fight at all, though.
Anonymous
Just use Supertraining. It's faster and easier. Hordes are for autists.
Anonymous
>Hordes are faster
Anonymous
>>17481184 >With the EXP share you don't actually have to put them in the fight at all, though. Proof?
I can't find anything about this.
Anonymous
>>17481201 Horde battles can be won in 1 turn, and give at LEAST 50 EVs. That's approximately 5 EVs per second, or a fully trained Pokemon in under 2 minutes.
Anonymous
Super training was put in the game because it is easier and faster. If you hoard train, you have to find the right hoard which could take long and you might not get pokemon with pokerus.
Anonymous
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>>17481201 Anyway...
> Power item of your choice adds 4 for each successful defeat/capture > Horde has 5 pokemon > Easy 20 stats in a fight > Pokerus to make that 40 stats You don't even need the last one to make Super Training inferior. The only time I've ever gone for super training is when I need some stones, or just to make sure the pokemon graduates perfectly (Netting 6 EVs in last stat).
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>17481240 >at LEAST 50 EVs Let's see
1 EV per Pokemon
Horde encounter's have 5 pokemon
+ Macho Brace on the pokemon you want to train makes...
10 EV's per fight.
That's almost 50 KEK :^)
Anonymous
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>>17481271 1 EV Pokemon + 4 power item = 5 x 2 Pokerus = 10 x 5 Pokemon in the hoard = 50.
Increases for Pokemon which give 2 or 3 EVs instead of only 1.
Anonymous
>>17480929 Tropius@wide lens
sweet scent fly EQ razor leaf
that's all you need. just do horde battles it's faster
Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier)
Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:32:51 No. 17481304 Report >>17481201 Honestly I feel like horde training with a hit-all move like surf is faster.
>Sweet scent >surf >25 EVs. >Repeat. Feels faster. Could be just because super training annoys the piss out of me though.
>>17481236 I have no sauce to throw at you, but it works. I would have thought any basic guide would mention it.
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120)
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:33:39 No. 17481317 Report I've been wondering about EV training as well, won't leveling the pokemon hurt the stats, or do the EVs scale upwards with level, if that makes sense?
Anonymous
>>17481292 Do you want to give me a Tropius or how am i supposed to get one without Pokebank? :^) Anonymous
>>17481304 >Surf >"Pokemon A, B and C and D have avoided the attack" MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120)
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:35:09 No. 17481341 Report >>17481319 Grass Safaris
>Implying friends Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier)
Sam 5300-9812-9761 (Krabby, Floatzel, Frogadier) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:36:32 No. 17481356 Report >>17481335 Hmm, fair point, but I've yet to encounter that. But yeah, any 'mon with dry skin would be a pain in the ass.
Anonymous
Making pokemon hold power items during super training adds more EV's.
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120)
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:37:11 No. 17481363 Report Quoted By:
>>17481319 >>17481341 Also I meant Flying because I'm dumb
Anonymous
>>17481356 I got news for you, shitter.
Tropius is not a safari pokemon.
Anonymous
>>17481319 >friend safari fucking reddit
Anonymous
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>>17481335 The problem I have with EQ is speed horde training.
Anonymous
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>>17481335 lol what are they holding brightpowder, surf has 100 accuracy
Oh and it's 50 evs per horde with pokerus which is easily obtained from here
Anonymous
>>17481335 this never happens
Anonymous
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>>17481367 I am sorry. I looked Tropius up on
bulbapedia (fucking outdated piece of trash and it said that you can only get a Tropius in X and Y by trade.
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120)
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:39:18 No. 17481398 Report Quoted By:
>>17481366 But I have one...
Anonymous
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Do horde training, the only times you should EVER use Super training is to use reset bags if you fuck up, berries are obsolete thanks to how quick you EV train with hordes, you just reset the whole thing if you fuck up and start again, 10 minues later your mon is ready
Anonymous
>>17481254 You're only half right. I was put in the game because it's easier and faster at the beginning of the game. You Super Train if you want an edge during the main game, you grind on Hordes postgame when you have Pokérus and Power Items.
>>17481271 >not having pokerus >using macho brace instead of power items >being this retarded >>17481335 Surf has 100% accuracy, as does Earthquake. Rock Slide is the one that misses all the time.
>>17481358 Pretty sure it doesn't.
>>17481366 But that's wrong, you fucking retard.
Anonymous
>>17481388 It does fucking happen. It happened just now.
Anonymous
>>17481317 nope. you can force the appropriate amount of EVs for a level to apply by boxing a Mon. so it's possible to completely change sets at 100 without needing to rebreed a mon
Anonymous
>>17481411 >Surf has 100% accuracy, as does Earthquake. Rock Slide is the one that misses all the time. It happens. It happens only in horde encounters though.
Whenever i use surf, there is at least 1 Pokemon that avoided the attack. It just happens.
Anonymous
>>17481416 lol wait what hasn't this been impossible from like gen 1 onwards?
inb4 there were no EVs then, stat exp is the equivalent Anonymous
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>>17481412 I've horde battled tons and not once have I had Surf miss. Rock Slide? Yeah, because it has less than 100 accuracy, but not Surf
Anonymous
>>17481430 my EQs never miss.you're full of shit or farming geodude
Anonymous
>>17481430 your pokemon has hustle or something. Seriously there's something wrong or you're just exaggerating and a fucking faggot
Anonymous
>>17481317 EV's add completely seperate stats. They don't scale with the level or the stats your pokemon already has.
If you EV train a Level 1 Mon by 252 points in Attack it will end up having 50 Attack at level 1.
Anonymous
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>>17481443 >>17481445 I am going to take a fucking photo the next time it happens, you shitters.
Anonymous
>>17481435 basically they brought that function back to ensure a lv100 Pokemon gets all it's EVs and to make it easier to switch between EV builds. it only applies the maximum EVs for that level. you can't "stat EXP" your mons
Anonymous
>>17481451 actually no
at lv 50 252 EVs only add about 32 stat points. They do scale to some extent but I have no idea of the extent. I've also super trained low lv mons because I didn't have the power items, and they didn't end up with absurdly high stats
Anonymous
>>17481476 I see.
Then is there a way to completely fuck up the EV training?
I mean what if you train EV's at the wrong time and they scale up worse than if you had done it 10 levels earlier for example.
Anonymous
>>17481467 >they brought that function back Okay haven't heard of this, changing sets is easy now that forgotten egg moves can be recalled with the move relearner too
Anonymous
>>17481492 doesn't happen anymore. it used to though. basically if you rarecandy to 30 then super train your first level up via battling will give you all the EV stats you missed.
Anonymous
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>>17481494 wait a second. they can? holy shit.
Anonymous
>>17481492 No, whenever you EV train the same stats you get at a certain level. If you EV trained from 0 to 252 at lv 99 you'd get all 63 points the next level up
Anonymous
>>17481521 And what if you are already level 100?
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120)
MoGott (Ice: Snover/Bergmite/Pilloswine) (FC: 0490-6025-1120) Sun 19 Jan 2014 10:51:01 No. 17481532 Report Quoted By:
>>17481515 This is what I wanted to hear, thanks.
Anonymous
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>>17481521 No, since Gen V, all EVs are recalculated at the end of each battle not upon leveling.
Anonymous
Anonymous
So what I get from this thread is, there's no difference between ev training at lvl 1 and lvl 99 anymore?
Anonymous
>>17481561 well, I assume it's faster at 99
Anonymous
>>17481568 It's the exact same, it always has been, you just see the results faster at lv 99 than at lv 1.
Anonymous
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>>17481578 god you're thick...no sense of humor
Anonymous
>Stunfisk >Earthquake >Discharge >Surf >Sludge Wave >Choice Scarf
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>17481658 I just use my normal run Greninja with surf to kill anything.
The only guys that resist it are those goddamn geodudes. I should get a mold breaker user with some aoe that isn't EQ
Anonymous
>>17481087 >>17481129 >>17481186 >>17481201 >>17481254 >>17481271 >>17481430 Holy shit, how can people be this fucking retarded? Horde training is a million times faster than Super training, and here's how:
>Power item + Pokerus = 50 EVs from a single horde >Thanks to Gen VI Exp. Share, you can EV train multiple Pokemon at the same time, just buy multiple power items >Even without Pokerus, it's still fast >You can use a strong Pokemon to sweep the horde with one move and all the weak Pokemon you're carrying with you will get EVs >Sweet Scent will always trigger horde encounter (unless it's raining when Sweet Scent can't be used at all) >If you encounter a wrong horde, just fucking run away. It's not an issue The ultimate EV training machine is Venusaur:
>Sweet Scent >Petal Blizzard >Earthquake Use Sweet Scent to trigger a horde and Petal Blizzard or Earthquake to OHKO the whole horde. Rinse and repeat. You can EV train up to five (5) Pokemon at the same time, and they will all have full EV faster than one Pokemon would have with super training. If you're too dumb to understand this, it's your problem, not mine.
Anonymous
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>>17482066 tropius can fly though too
