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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:26:18 No.17570665 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17570743 >>17570827 >>17570881 >>17572273 >>17580476

>Modest Nature
>252HP, 252SpA, 4Defense
>Weakness Policy
>Shadow Ball, Flash Cannon, King's Shield, Hidden Power Fighting.

Am I doing Aegislash right, /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:28:14 No.17570725 Report

Quoted By: >>17570754

Why KS and not Autototomotize

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:28:37 No.17570728 Report

Quoted By: >>17570790 >>17570795 >>17570866

I recommend Leftovers as well as King's Shield, Sacred Sword, Swords Dance, and Shadow Sneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:29:00 No.17570743 Report

Quoted By: >>17570906 >>17570940 >>17571009

>>17570665
>Walled by Blissey.
>No Shadow Sneak.

No.

Should be Quiet nature with
Shadow Ball
Kings Shield
Shadow Sneak
Sacred Sword.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:29:17 No.17570754 Report

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>>17570725
>Autototomotize
I chuckled

But basically that's the only problem I see with it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:30:32 No.17570790 Report

Quoted By: >>17570821

>>17570728
>150 SpAtk
>wasted on a Physical attacker
mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:30:39 No.17570795 Report

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>>17570728
that is the worst aegislash set

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:30:46 No.17570799 Report

Quoted By: >>17570906

It is not smogon cookie cutter and is therefore wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:31:32 No.17570821 Report

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>>17570790
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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:31:48 No.17570827 Report

Quoted By: >>17570906

>>17570665
>hidden power fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:33:12 No.17570866 Report

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>>17570728
Probably gonna get pooped on because le ebin karenfag real fans 4 lyfe crowd won't let you use a good set just because >muh smogon said it was good but for real that set benefits more from Life Orb or Weakness Policy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:33:42 No.17570881 Report

Quoted By: >>17570906

>>17570665
>Hidden Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:34:22 No.17570906 Report

Quoted By: >>17574840

>>17570743
>>17570799
Be honest. No one would ever send in a Blissey against an Aegislash for the simple fact that it knows Sacred Sword.

>>17570827
>>17570881
Sacred Sword isn't as powerful as HP Fighting if you run a Modest nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:35:38 No.17570940 Report

Quoted By: >>17571003 >>17571023

I'm about to breed for a shiny one.
Should I run the standard brave nature set or the quite one >>17570743 suggested.
I've seen both been used and wanna know which is better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:37:46 No.17570998 Report

Quoted By: >>17571039

@
Max Attack & Sp.Attack/ 4 hp
Brave
-Power Trick
-King's Shield
-Shadow Ball
-Flash Canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:38:07 No.17571003 Report

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>>17570940
>which is better.
They're both great, just serve different purposes. The only difference you might notice is that the Mixed attacker is less predictable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:38:22 No.17571009 Report

Quoted By:

>>17570743
Isn't Blissey a Normal-type still?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:38:48 No.17571023 Report

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>>17570940
the mixed set is better because the sd set can't ko a lot of threats even at +2 and the mix set gets past a lot of common switch ins to aegislash, bar lando-t who i think i banned in battlespot though im not sure

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:39:42 No.17571039 Report

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>>17570998
>Power Trick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:43:38 No.17571124 Report

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>weakness policy
>base 150 attack and special attack
>not going mixed

you goofed.

Shadow Ball
Sacred Sword
Shadow Sneak
Kings Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:51:18 No.17571310 Report

Quoted By: >>17571425

The aegislsh I'm working on right now for my steal monotype team

Hasty
Weakness Policy
88-atk
252 sp-attk
168 spe

Automotize
Shadow Ball
Sacred Sword
Head Smash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:55:41 No.17571425 Report

Quoted By: >>17571444 >>17571569 >>17571994 >>17575729

>>17571310
>252 SpA
>One special move
>Weakness policy
>No King's Shield
>>>NO KING'S SHIELD
What the fuck are you doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 02:56:29 No.17571444 Report

Quoted By: >>17579846

>>17571425

You don't need kings shield on an Automotize set. You gotta go fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 03:01:10 No.17571569 Report

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>>17571425
Why would you even use King's Shield? You are giving your opponent a huge opportunity to fuck it over with any kind of status move, it does absolutely nothing to special attackers, lots of physical attackers have no-contact moves and even worse you might just give your opponent a free turn to set-up.

People who use King's Shield and then switch the next turn are retarded, because switching will put you back into Shield Mode anyway, you don't have to waste a slot on it.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 03:19:07 No.17571994 Report

Quoted By: >>17579846

>>17571425
>Running king's shield on automotize
Christ, enjoy losing all momentum

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 03:23:51 No.17572120 Report

Quoted By: >>17572150 >>17579943

Is Destiny Bond a thing on Aegislash sets, or is it not worth it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 03:24:48 No.17572150 Report

Quoted By:

>>17572120

He learns it. But there is really no reason to run it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 03:30:07 No.17572273 Report

Quoted By:

>>17570665
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 05:14:01 No.17574840 Report

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>>17570906
Why are you running Modest when having a negative stat in speed is better because of stance change?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 06:05:53 No.17575729 Report

Quoted By:

>>17571425

>I have no idea what I'm talking about

Please kill yourself. Autotomize runs 3 attacks and needs all of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 12:36:58 No.17579502 Report

Quoted By: >>17579655

Run a - Special Defense nature instead of - Speed. With 12 Speed EVs you can outrun no investment Tyranitar and KO with Sacred Sword.

Run Sacred Sword instead of HP Fighting. Tyranitar will be your main target, so it will do way more damage.

Put 4 EVs in Special Defense instead so Genesect can't switch in and threaten with Flamethrower.

Leftovers work well with King's Shield sets, and are great for Aegislash's bulk. Run 252 Special Attack and 236 HP.

Nuke everything with Shadow Ball, and if it doesn't KO, finish off with Shadow Sneak. Spooky Plate is a good choice of item.

Aegislash @ Leftovers / Spooky Plate
Rash
236 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpDef / 12 Spe

Shadow Ball
Shadow Sneak
Sacred Sword
King's Shield

Best version of the standard set, IMO. Swords Dance sucks, Life Orb and Choice Band/Specs are bad choices because of bulk and Blade form's defenses, and I haven't tried Autotomize yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 13:01:22 No.17579655 Report

Quoted By: >>17579790 >>17580333

>>17579502

>-Sp.Def nature
>Put EVs in Sp.Def to stop Genesect getting a Sp.Atk boost

You didn't think this through, did you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 13:16:18 No.17579790 Report

Quoted By: >>17579865

>>17579655
I'd like to know what significance 4 sp.def ev's have vs a genesect, of all things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 13:22:21 No.17579846 Report

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>>17571444
>>17571994
I would just like to point out that the word is "autoTOMIZE," not "automotize."
This word means "to remove a body part."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 13:24:58 No.17579865 Report

Quoted By: >>17580333

>>17579790
It's supposed to force Download to boost Attack.
Though that anon fucked up by suggesting -SpD nature.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 13:35:43 No.17579943 Report

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>>17572120
Probably won't work with Aegslash

>mfw people still fall for M-Banette Destiny Bond

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 14:24:37 No.17580333 Report

Quoted By:

>>17579655
>>17579865

... whoops. The standard set on Smogon runs a - Speed nature, but still suggests the Speed EVs because Tyranitar apparently runs a - Speed nature too. Not sure how popular slow Tyranitar is...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2014 14:44:26 No.17580476 Report

Quoted By:

>>17570665
There is no right way to use it.
The good thing about aegi is his versatility.
For example i need a mon that walls and destroy fairies and deal with ghost too, i give him KS, shados sneak, iron head and shadowball, running spatk+ speed-
It's just a matter of opinions.

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