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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 03:46:40 No.17593473 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17593628 >>17593821 >>17594007 >>17595481

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-ou-viability-ranking-thread.3495992/

Tiers within tiers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 03:53:38 No.17593628 Report

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>>17593473
>Entei
>B

I know he got Sacred Fire, but I didn't think that would push him up to OU/high UU level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 03:59:34 No.17593770 Report

Quoted By: >>17593823 >>17593878 >>17594300 >>17594323

>ou
>Krookodile

u wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:02:35 No.17593821 Report

Quoted By: >>17593936 >>17593960 >>17594138

>>17593473
>MegaVenusaur
>Rank S
Really? MegaVenu is that good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:02:42 No.17593823 Report

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>>17593770
He might not have enough usage to be in OU but that doesn't mean he's not viable in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:05:52 No.17593878 Report

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>>17593770
Plenty of pokemon who arent in ou can still thrive in the environment. Just look at meinshao or milotic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:09:02 No.17593936 Report

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>>17593821
2nd best wall in the game after lugia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:09:42 No.17593951 Report

Quoted By: >>17593982

Why Arcanine and Florges are blacklisted?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:10:20 No.17593960 Report

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>>17593821
It does not die ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:11:28 No.17593982 Report

Quoted By: >>17594113

>>17593951
Because a couple forums members couldn't talk about them without shitting up the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:12:54 No.17594007 Report

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>>17593473
lel smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:17:09 No.17594113 Report

Quoted By: >>17594187 >>17594200

>>17593982
How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:18:33 No.17594138 Report

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>>17593821
M-Venusaur can eat just about any attack, but its one downside is that Giga Drain, Leech Seed, and Synthesis are pretty much mandatory on it since it can't have Leftovers. That leaves you with one slot for Sleep Powder or Sludge Bomb. I use Sleep Powder, but that means any grass switch-in can force it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:20:41 No.17594187 Report

Quoted By: >>17594386 >>17594593

>>17594113
People thought it was a popularity contest not a viability ranking.

They got butthurt when people told them Arcanine and Florges were outclassed and that they didn't belong in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:21:16 No.17594200 Report

Quoted By: >>17594303

>>17594113
Florges is completely outclassed by Sylveon in every single way, but people would continue to argue that it should get ranked for several pages.

One single person also argued for several pages on Arcanine, and eventually said "I want Arcanine to be ranked because it has nostalgic value to me."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:23:55 No.17594248 Report

Quoted By: >>17594461 >>17596052

>>17594138
M-Venusaur is the reason I run Sleep Talk on my CB Talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:26:34 No.17594300 Report

Quoted By: >>17594374

>>17593770
Choice Scarf STAB Knock Off and earthquake.

It got a little bit of a boost to it's defense this gen as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:26:50 No.17594303 Report

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>>17594200
>I want Arcanine to be ranked because it has nostalgic value to me
People like those shouldn't have the right to speak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:27:58 No.17594323 Report

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>>17593770
A lot of the tiered stuff is UU, too, there's just not enough room for them to be "officially" tiered, even though they're strictly good in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:28:54 No.17594334 Report

Quoted By: >>17594380 >>17594446 >>17594542

I thought Mega-Heracross and Gardevoir were utter balls.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:30:44 No.17594374 Report

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>>17594300
>Krookodile is OU?
>I use Krookodile, bretty gud, but not a team wrecker
>KROOKODILE GETS KNOCK OFF WHUAT
>Transfer-Only Moves
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:31:03 No.17594380 Report

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>>17594334
M-Heracross is a decent sticky web sweeper and wall breaker.

Also Bulk Up.

It definitely needs support though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:31:10 No.17594386 Report

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>>17594187
Pics or it didn't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:32:28 No.17594409 Report

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>>17594386
This was weeks ago. The posts are probably deleted.

They were in the late teens and early twenty's.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:34:15 No.17594446 Report

Quoted By: >>17594489 >>17594502

>>17594334
>utter balls
Does this mean they're good or they're bad?

Well in any case, M-Heracross is a great wallbreaker and most things that could otherwise counter M-Gardevoir doesn't appreciate Will-o-wisp. Also Pixilate Hyper Voice is the strongest spammable special attack in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:34:56 No.17594461 Report

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>>17594248
Yeah, Sleep Powder is such a good catch-all move on M-Venusaur that I would feel stupid not to use it. Plus, Ferrothorn is immune to Sludge Bomb anyway, so I might as well keep Sleep Powder.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:35:54 No.17594489 Report

Quoted By: >>17594535

>>17594446
>Also Pixilate Hyper Voice is the strongest spammable special attack in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:36:12 No.17594495 Report

Quoted By: >>17594518 >>17594545

RIP Salamence 2003 - 2013

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:36:34 No.17594502 Report

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>>17594446
'Balls' tends to mean terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:37:24 No.17594518 Report

Quoted By: >>17594561 >>17594754

>>17594495
Just wait till Gen 3 remake.

Mega Salamence Dragon/Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:38:11 No.17594535 Report

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>>17594489
Oh gosh you're right, Heatran quad resists it. Well too bad Gardevoir doesn't have anyway to get around He- wait never mind it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:38:48 No.17594542 Report

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>>17594334
MegaHeracross is one of the few Megas that are actually stronger than their LO normal counterpart.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:38:53 No.17594545 Report

Quoted By: >>17594623

>>17594495
>tfw Salamence joins Metagross in BL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:39:54 No.17594561 Report

Quoted By: >>17594604 >>17594721

>>17594518
It's over, my friend. The original Uber pseudo is dead and GF killed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:41:23 No.17594593 Report

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>>17594187
I wish they would stop letting newfags post in that thread. It's like pulling teeth watching retards who only joined 3 days ago and only got into competitive this gen trying to act like their opinions hold any weight.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:42:07 No.17594604 Report

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>>17594561
>tfw no more Specsmence shenanigans because of blue rabbits fucking everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:43:03 No.17594623 Report

Quoted By: >>17594663

>>17594545
They are both low UU shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:45:05 No.17594663 Report

Quoted By: >>17594754

>>17594623
>not giving Salamence a Mega
>not giving Metagross a new HA
I once loved this world.

Jack 4527-8246-1665

Jack 4527-8246-1665 Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:48:15 No.17594721 Report

Quoted By: >>17594743 >>17594825

>>17594561
The original was Garchomp and he's still kicking. But yeah Salamence is over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:49:13 No.17594739 Report

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>No Jirachi in sight
I know OU is typically about usage, but fuck anyone who doesn't use him. The little fucker is amazing.

Benson 1247-0122-1521

Benson 1247-0122-1521 Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:49:22 No.17594743 Report

Quoted By: >>17594785 >>17594830

>>17594721
>tfw gamefreak gives it a shitty ass 3d model, add the fairy type and mega charizard x

it's like they hired someone who has a vendetta against it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:49:46 No.17594754 Report

Quoted By: >>17594769

>>17594518
>>17594663
>M-Salamence
>ability makes all Dragon moves +1 priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:50:28 No.17594769 Report

Quoted By: >>17594823

>>17594754
As much as I like Salamence, pls no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:51:42 No.17594785 Report

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>>17594743
They fucked over Salamence from the beginning with its stupid wings. Maybe they're just trying to put it out of its misery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:53:13 No.17594823 Report

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>>17594769
Either that or keep its ability Intimidate, and let it activate twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:53:18 No.17594825 Report

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>>17594721
I could have sworn Salamence was Uber in RSE too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:53:24 No.17594830 Report

Quoted By: >>17594875

>>17594743
Not that they did a better job with DNite's 3D model, he looks even more like a retarded barney.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 04:56:08 No.17594875 Report

Quoted By: >>17594971

>>17594830

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 05:01:44 No.17594971 Report

Quoted By: >>17595081

>>17594875
It's obvious that GF plays favorite regarding the 3d animation,

fan (as in underaged kiddo) favorite such as Charizard etc gets beautiful 3D model while the more forgettable pokes get crappy one, even said forgettable pokemon is an OU staple. For example Skarmory, Politoed, Dnite, Mandibuzz all have really bad model (they don't even animate the flapping wing so skarmory electromagnetically glides)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 05:05:49 No.17595061 Report

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>smogonfags
I don't know why any of you are complaining about anything they decide, since the only reason their decisions have any authority at all is because you won't get off their dicks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 05:06:38 No.17595081 Report

Quoted By: >>17595404

>>17594971
What's wrong with Mandy? I hated her in fifth gen, but she's starting to grow on me thanks to the 3d model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 05:24:10 No.17595404 Report

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>>17595081
The short wingspan bothers me, the wing is flapping very slowly compared to other birds and most importantly its body position is of a bird that is flying forward (as compared to hovering stance Talonflame, Charizard, Staraptor, etc have)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 05:29:50 No.17595481 Report

Quoted By: >>17595518

>>17593473
>Not fucking knowing that every tiering system EVER has + and -.

Jesus fuck, /vp/ is so retarded it hurts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 05:31:38 No.17595518 Report

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>>17595481
The fuck are you on about m8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 05:42:56 No.17595734 Report

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Hey, Mega Alakazam was listed with Alakazam and now it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2014 06:02:21 No.17596052 Report

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>>17594248
You'd be better off using safety goggles.

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