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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:44:28 No.17628225 View View Reply Original Report

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What can I do against this damn bitch and it's faggot ass kid? It pulls off a fucking a power up punch and it's over. Yes, I'm fucking mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:45:23 No.17628245 Report

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Sableye/ any ghost type + will o wisp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:45:42 No.17628262 Report

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Ghost types are pretty much your only hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:46:14 No.17628278 Report

Quoted By: >>17628575

>>17628225
Rocky Helmet Ferrothorn and pray they aren't weird enough to run Fire Punch or Fire Blast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:47:02 No.17628296 Report

Quoted By: >>17628354

Complain on Smogon that people aren't following "the rules".
Or if you're not a faggot you could get good.

dan 5327-1587-4109

dan 5327-1587-4109 Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:47:34 No.17628311 Report

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>>17628225
ghost thing.
though in my trick room team, CC granbull will always stop her sweeps. intimidate and resists suckerpunch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:47:51 No.17628320 Report

Quoted By: >>17628932

The best counter to a sniper in airsoft is a counter sniper.

The best counter to a mega khan is basically another mega khan.

muffs

muffs Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:48:01 No.17628325 Report

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I just switch to magmar lol

confuse ray, willo-wisp, clear smog

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:48:56 No.17628346 Report

Quoted By: >>17629212 >>17631488

Whats going good mah nigga?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:49:29 No.17628354 Report

Quoted By: >>17628385

>>17628296
Nigga I want to gid gud that's why I'm asking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:49:34 No.17628355 Report

Quoted By: >>17628403 >>17628411 >>17628422 >>17628444 >>17628502 >>17628936

Has GF ever banned a Pokémon that wasn't a legendary or Chatot?

Because if not, I really hope they start with this thing.
At least for the VGCs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:49:57 No.17628361 Report

Quoted By: >>17628385

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:50:42 No.17628378 Report

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>>17628225
Hit it with anything fighting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:50:51 No.17628383 Report

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Use imposter ditto
>copy PuP
>use sucker punch and outspeed tand KO that bitch
OR
>Use any other attacking move with ditto and KO that bitch
OR my favorite technique
Git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:50:57 No.17628385 Report

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>>17628361
see
>>17628354

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:51:05 No.17628389 Report

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>>17628225
Rocky helmet Mandibuzz + foul play.
Enjoy your dead Kanga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:51:20 No.17628394 Report

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>>17628225
Free switch into Hindenboorg, WoW/build evasion + pass to your own sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:51:45 No.17628403 Report

Quoted By: >>17628481 >>17628575

>>17628355
I could kill it easily with a Hawlucha, you need to git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:51:59 No.17628411 Report

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>>17628355
Would be great, but definitely not happening. At least VGC doesn't have the ridiculously game-breaking tier seismic toss khan...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:52:22 No.17628422 Report

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>>17628355
GF actually banned Chatot?
Was it because people were using Chatter to call each other faggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:52:44 No.17628431 Report

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Also there's no such thing as a bad situation provided you know what you're doing. Pokemon team is called a "team" for a reason.

So yes, get good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:53:42 No.17628444 Report

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>>17628355
>GF
>Ever caring about balance
Pick 1 and only 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:53:46 No.17628447 Report

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>>17628422
Chatot caused a bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:54:39 No.17628465 Report

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>>17628447
Do tell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:54:44 No.17628468 Report

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>>17628422
That's actually exactly the reason why, yeah.

But they simply removed that feature in XY so I'm guessing you can use it again now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:55:33 No.17628481 Report

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>>17628403
>use Hawlucha
>git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:56:21 No.17628501 Report

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Gengar with hypnosis, nobody expects it so they won't switch out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:56:21 No.17628502 Report

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>>17628355
No and thank god.

The only additional bans they made were for truly game breaking shit like Dark Void in doubles (although even that one was lifted after the sleep nerf) or glitched Sky Drop. They are free of this "if it has less than 10 counters and 100 checks then it's broken" smogon tier faggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:56:39 No.17628508 Report

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Use strong physical attacks from a fighting type pokemon, personally I use Machamp and use Bulk up the first 3 turns
If it's a double battle try setting up Reflect or any stat conditions attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:57:44 No.17628530 Report

Quoted By: >>17628575

Rough Skin Rocky Helmet Garchomp
Iron Barbs Rocky Helmet Ferrothorn
Mummy Confagrigus
Entraiment Truant Durant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:58:26 No.17628546 Report

Quoted By: >>17628578

>>17628225
Lucario tends to keep Kangaskhan away btw. Just remember to not mega evolve on their fake out but stay inner focus normal luke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 20:59:54 No.17628575 Report

Quoted By: >>17628636

>>17628278
>>17628530
Does parental bond make rocky helmet / iron barbs / rough skin trigger twice?
>>17628403
252+ Atk Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Kangaskhan: 368-434 (88.8 - 104.8%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
Too bad Hawlucha gets one-shot by return. It can't get a guaranteed kill on M-Kanga without first boosting attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:00:10 No.17628578 Report

Quoted By: >>17628617

>>17628546
Why not Steadfast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:02:11 No.17628614 Report

Quoted By: >>17628900

>>17628225
Hitmontop, use Intimidate to lower its attack, faster Fake Out, Close Combat
Cofagrigus with an Air Balloon is immune to all of its common attacks, save for Crunch or Sucker Punch. It loses its ability after a hit from any of its attacks.
Ferrothorn with a Rocky Helmet triggers Iron Barbs and the Helmet twice, doing massive damage. Finish it off with a Gyro Ball.
Sableye is immune to most of its moves and has priority Will-o-Whisp, cutting its attack
get gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:02:19 No.17628617 Report

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>>17628578
Because you'll still be blocked the first turn, which could allow kangaskhan's partner to kill you. Also, Mega Luke is fast enough anyway...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:03:21 No.17628636 Report

Quoted By: >>17628695

>>17628575
>Does parental bond make rocky helmet / iron barbs / rough skin trigger twice?
That's the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:03:24 No.17628637 Report

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>>17628225
Rocky Helmet works well, especially in Singles. I used Brave Bird / Taunt / Roost / Toxic Skarmory to a great success.

Pair it with a fast Fighting type (like Blaziken) and most of the time youre good to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:06:51 No.17628695 Report

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>>17628636
I've never actually tried using it, my answer to M-Kanga was usually Conkeldurr or a ghost with status moves so it doesn't get sucker-punched.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:07:07 No.17628699 Report

Quoted By: >>17628810 >>17628892

Thanks for the tips guise. Guess I'll git gud and breed a Cofagrigus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:10:03 No.17628761 Report

Quoted By: >>17628908

Play somewhere with a better ruleset

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:12:21 No.17628810 Report

Quoted By: >>17628852

>>17628699
Get a Slaking with pursuit as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:14:31 No.17628852 Report

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>>17628810
I like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:16:20 No.17628892 Report

Quoted By: >>17628937 >>17628987 >>17629279

>>17628699
>Kangaskhan used Earthquake!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:16:54 No.17628900 Report

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>>17628614
>Hitmontop
>faster Fake Out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:17:28 No.17628908 Report

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>>17628761
I only paly with faggots from /vp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:18:38 No.17628932 Report

Quoted By: >>17629038

>>17628320
This guy has it right. I'm assuming you're doing 3v3, so using a Sableye/Cofagrigus just to take down M-Kahn isn't the best of ideas, since they're not too good outside of stopping her. Fight fire with fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:18:48 No.17628936 Report

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>>17628355
They banned dark void on smeargle, thats it. Im honestly glad they dont put in bans, this way we can use whatever we want and only have ourselves to blame.

You can either get swept by a spore spamming fag or wreck his shit with taunt.

ouo Fletchinder Larvesta Magmar (? )418420583860

ouo Fletchinder Larvesta Magmar (? )418420583860 Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:18:48 No.17628937 Report

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>>17628892
>Cofagrigus floats using its Air Balloon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:21:18 No.17628987 Report

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>>17628892
>doing shit against something with 140 base defense
>after being WoW nonetheless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:22:50 No.17629022 Report

Quoted By: >>17629120

Rocky Helmet Mandibuzz with Foul Play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:22:59 No.17629029 Report

Quoted By: >>17629051 >>17629178 >>17629185

>>17628225
Smogon can't counter this thing because they banned evasion, but this guy can't fucking stop evasion builds for shit, he has fucking nothing. Switch into Drifblim and STACK EVASION, mega-kanga can't do SHIT. Baton pass to substitute mega lucario and you just won the fucking game assuming there is no roar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:23:22 No.17629038 Report

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>>17628932
4S4G-WWWW-WWW4-TUT8

>When fire with fire strategy happens.
>git gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:24:15 No.17629051 Report

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>>17629029
>sableye used taunt
>sableye used will-i-wisp
>sableye used recover
>sableye said fuck you

Seiously though, use sableye or a decent ghost type.

Eric: 0473-8917-1029 (dedenne, heliolisk)

Eric: 0473-8917-1029 (dedenne, heliolisk) Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:26:48 No.17629097 Report

Quoted By: >>17629220

>>17628225
use one ghost poke with levitate and gg wp, khanga can't do nothing literally, he can't attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:28:12 No.17629120 Report

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>>17629022
This. It works wonders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:29:27 No.17629145 Report

Quoted By: >>17629185 >>17629191 >>17629202

So do mega kangas not use Crunch to cover for Ghosts being their biggest weakness?
I haven't seen one in forever so I really have no idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:30:51 No.17629165 Report

Quoted By: >>17629224

Ghost, surprisingly my scrafty almost always takes him out with 2 Drain Punches

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:31:08 No.17629171 Report

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Does somebody have a good M-Kanga replay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:31:47 No.17629178 Report

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>>17629029
The crunch sets can OHKO you wasting your time running evasion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:32:01 No.17629185 Report

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>>17629029
Khan can learn Roar. Or shit, better yet, just slap DT on the defensive set and it's even tougher to take down. Plus relying on evasion isn't really a good way to counter a mon due to it being rather luck-based.

>>17629145
They generally use Sucker Punch since it also has priority but Crunch isn't uncommon either. However, Sableye isn't weak to those moves and Cofagrigus' ability will remove parental bond, making it more manageable until it switches out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:32:21 No.17629191 Report

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>>17629145
Most go with sucker punch because "muh priority" but crunch is always another option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:32:54 No.17629202 Report

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>>17629145
Their set is usually PuP, Sucker Punch, Return, and Protect from what i usually see in doubles

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:33:14 No.17629212 Report

Quoted By: >>17629256 >>17629271

>>17628346
>252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Crunch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cofagrigus: 204-240 (63.7 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:33:31 No.17629220 Report

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>>17629097
what is suckerpunch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:33:37 No.17629224 Report

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>>17629165
>2 drain punches
>while she can OHKO you with +2 return from full health even if you run full 252/252 HP/Defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:35:18 No.17629256 Report

Quoted By: >>17629385

>>17629212
>kangaskhan will get the second hit thanks to mummy
>the Cofagrigus won't ever think to use will-o-wisp or pain split during that time
You can 2KO a Gastro Acid'd Cofagrigus who's been taunted I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:35:47 No.17629271 Report

Quoted By: >>17629385

>>17629212
why's cofagrigus have 0 def, and does that calculate the second attack being non-parental bond due to Mummy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:36:16 No.17629279 Report

Quoted By: >>17629300

>>17628892
252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cofagrigus: 127-150 (39.6 - 46.8%)
252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cofagrigus: 97-115 (30.3 - 35.9%)

lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:37:03 No.17629300 Report

Quoted By: >>17631101

>>17629279
I like how that doesn't even assume a burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:42:16 No.17629385 Report

Quoted By: >>17629739

>>17629256
>kangaskhan will get the second hit thanks to mummy

It does. Mummy doesn't kick in until the second turn. Cofagrigus is only a check, it gets 2HKOed easily when switching in.

>>17629271
>252+ Atk Mega Kangaskhan Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cofagrigus: 136-160 (42.5 - 50%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Without Parental Bond

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:46:03 No.17629450 Report

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>>17628225

why is she so perfect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:53:18 No.17629564 Report

Quoted By: >>17629659

>>17628225
Not playing Ubers helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 21:58:41 No.17629659 Report

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>>17629564
>tiers on wifi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:04:02 No.17629739 Report

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>>17629385
Will-o-Wisp. Pain Split.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:06:02 No.17629769 Report

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Burn it ya dumb dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:17:04 No.17629959 Report

Quoted By: >>17630000 >>17630027 >>17630061 >>17630447

cotton guard whimsicott shits all over it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:18:59 No.17630000 Report

Quoted By: >>17630031

>>17629959
>2 chances to crit every turn
>PUP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:20:12 No.17630027 Report

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>>17629959

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:20:28 No.17630031 Report

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>>17630000
nice quads

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:21:31 No.17630061 Report

Quoted By: >>17630243

>>17629959
>resists crunch/pup/sucker punch

still probably can't come in on a return or earthquake and obviously fire punch wrecks it, but I'd be curious if it could actually win a stall war with kang with just leech seed and whatever else it runs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:22:49 No.17630092 Report

Quoted By: >>17630226

>>17628225

Hai.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:29:57 No.17630226 Report

Quoted By: >>17630747 >>17630749

>>17630092
Hai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:31:07 No.17630243 Report

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>>17630061
resists earthquake too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:40:33 No.17630447 Report

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>>17629959

>+6 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. +6 252 HP / 252+ Def Whimsicott: 216-253 (66.6 - 78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

All using cotton guard does is give it more chances to PuP to setup even more. At which point you have a +6 mega khan and nothing is safe.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:51:00 No.17630649 Report

Quoted By: >>17630830

>>17628225
Did someone say Kanga check

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:53:45 No.17630714 Report

Quoted By: >>17630727

>>17628225
mega lucario has better speed and has a nice ability just sayin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:54:28 No.17630727 Report

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>>17630714
i second this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:55:00 No.17630747 Report

Quoted By: >>17632909

>>17630226

>Switch in Mismagius
>Only 1/4 moves can actually hit
>105 speed > 100 speed
>Pray to whatever god you worship that you weren't stupid enough to let the Kanga get a PuP off
>WoW
>252+ Atk Parental Bond burned Mega Kangaskhan Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mismagius: 211-249 (80.5 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>Switch out to something that can take the ensuing Crunch
>Destiny Bond another Pokemon with the same Mismagius
>???
>PROFIT!

Oh, and if they run Sucker Punch instead of Crunch cause m-muh priority, they can't do a THING to you. Mean Look first if that's the case, just to be a dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:55:03 No.17630749 Report

Quoted By: >>17632047

>>17630226

Yeah, Aurorus is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:58:02 No.17630830 Report

Quoted By: >>17630870 >>17630880 >>17630937

>>17630649
hitmontop switches in when he sees mega kanga come out
kanga uses PuP after being Intimidated, does 11.8 - 14.1% to max HP/Def Impish Hitmontop
Kanga's Attack is now +1
+1 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hitmontop: 298-352 (98 - 115.7%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

So what's Hitmontop gonna do besides Intimidate and die? Can't even outspeed Kanga, and even if it could it would need 2 turns to KO with Close Combat. Plus, who runs 252hp/def Hitmontop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:58:26 No.17630836 Report

Quoted By: >>17632980 >>17633189

The mere existence of this dude is why this game is an unbalanced piece of shit and will never be fun or truly competitive. I only got 6 spots on my team and I have to devote one to a niche Pokemon to counter some overpowered bullshit. The fact that the developers couldn't perceive how out-of-this-world retarded M-Kanga was before releasing the game demonstrates how utterly disinterested they are in making a competitively balanced game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 22:59:49 No.17630870 Report

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>>17630830
then again you said "kanga check" so I guess it can switch in and 1hko with Choice Band or Life Orb
(except not because a +1 kanga after Intimidate will still 1hko offensive Hitmontop so I don't understand)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:00:15 No.17630878 Report

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What is Trevanant?
What is will-o-wisp?
What is harvest?
What is sitrus berry?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:00:16 No.17630880 Report

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>>17630830
>>17630830
sometimes you have to fight fire with fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:03:01 No.17630933 Report

Quoted By: >>17631212

Literally use any defensive wall with iron defence or Acid Armour, it's how I deal with her.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:03:21 No.17630937 Report

Quoted By: >>17631011

>>17630830
drain punch tiem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:07:08 No.17631011 Report

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>>17630937
gets killed with Return even if you take the PUP and get two Mach Punches in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:10:47 No.17631101 Report

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>>17629300
The only things getting burned here are people thinking MKan has counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:15:22 No.17631212 Report

Quoted By: >>17631291 >>17631319

>>17630933
>get +2 defenses and do 0 damage
>meanwhile mkang is getting +2 attack and doing some damage to you each time

I don't know any defensive wall that can boost up vs mkang. I'm pretty sure even both of the good unaware mons still get raped by a +0 return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:18:19 No.17631291 Report

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>>17631212
I think the only thing is Curse Ferrothorn if Kang isn't running EQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:19:03 No.17631319 Report

Quoted By: >>17633060

>>17631212
>Run a Baton Pass Team
>Lead Scolipede protect, then sub power up punch doesn't break sub
>Batonpass Vaporeon Acid Armor x3 leftovers heals up damage from Kanga, keep putting up sub when it is broken
>99% of Megamom users DC

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:26:05 No.17631488 Report

Quoted By: >>17631697

>>17628346
>mfw he's the perfect M khan counter
>mfw power split and mummy nerfs the shit out of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:30:04 No.17631590 Report

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I kind of want to use this guy in the battle maison, is it better to build it adamant with 252 HP/252 Atk or 252 Atk/252 Spe?

I think I want to use porygon2/m-kanga/milotic for my team and hope I can get past 50 wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:34:34 No.17631697 Report

Quoted By: >>17631927

>>17631488
>power split
U wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:43:25 No.17631927 Report

Quoted By: >>17632479

>>17631697
Cofagrigus has low as hell attack. If your opponent's dumb enough to leave it in after a burn a power spilt will reduce its attack immensely

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Jan 2014 23:48:04 No.17632047 Report

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>>17630749
>Aurorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:08:25 No.17632479 Report

Quoted By: >>17632629 >>17632682

>>17631927
>foul play hits you for super effective and now does more damage than it did before
there's a reason breeders try to breed for 0 attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:15:04 No.17632629 Report

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>>17632479
Yet foul play still gets affected by burns to the user

That's why Sableye runs will-o-wisp with foul play+swagger, it's opponent attack stat, their boosts, your item, STAB, and status conditions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:17:14 No.17632682 Report

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>>17632479
Khan can't even get foul play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:27:28 No.17632909 Report

Quoted By: >>17634069

>>17630747
>Switch in Mismagius
>dies to Crunch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:30:12 No.17632980 Report

Quoted By: >>17633389

>>17630836
Megas in general were just a terrible idea. It's like the balance team was making all sorts of interesting little changes to moves and types, then the mega team comes in and takes a huge shit on their desk.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:33:14 No.17633060 Report

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>>17631319
+2 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 523-618 (112.7 - 133.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 262-310 (56.4 - 66.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:38:25 No.17633189 Report

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>>17630836
Except for official tournaments are doubles. The balance is still off but you're thinking about it completely fucking wrong.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:46:48 No.17633389 Report

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>>17632980

Steve 3067-6253-9556 Phantump/Lampent/Golurk

Steve 3067-6253-9556 Phantump/Lampent/Golurk Sun 26 Jan 2014 00:51:06 No.17633503 Report

Quoted By: >>17634584

Aggron survives the power up punches and that weakness policy headsmash cleans the mess out
>not looking for counters outside of ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 01:16:01 No.17634069 Report

Quoted By: >>17634141

>>17632909

>implying it's going to happen every time

Unless they go spam crazy with Crunch trying to anticipate the switch to the Mismagius (which is when you bring in something that can tank a Crunch and bait one of the other attacks, and lord knows there's quite a few that can), chances are you can safely switch it in. Bait one of the other attacks, switch in Mismagius, WoW it, then switch to elsewhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 01:18:56 No.17634141 Report

Quoted By: >>17634414

>>17634069
The point is that if they're any good, they'll eventually land a crunch. Or just switch out on the WoW and bring it in later. At best, you land a WoW and lose most of your health (unless there's a miss or crit). Mismagius is barely a check, much less a counter when it can be OHKOed by the thing it's supposed to be countering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 01:30:35 No.17634414 Report

Quoted By: >>17634984

>>17634141

>They switch out M-Kanga
>Lose all the Attack they buffed up
>Hesitate to bring it out cause Burn

I think that's a job well done, if it can accomplish that much. Plus I know there's still plenty of Sucker Punch Kangas out there, and if they do, that's a forced switch right there, removing the PuP momentum they got.

Plus if they switch on the WoW, unless it's immune, that's a free status on whatever is getting hit by it.

Health doesn't exactly matter when you can bring it in later for a D-Bond, assuming that same crit happening.

Also, if you're any good, you'd play your cards to make sure they don't get that Crunch off, whatever is in your hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 01:38:47 No.17634584 Report

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>>17633503

252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Aggron: 330-390 (95.9 - 113.3%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Good luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 01:56:39 No.17634984 Report

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>>17634414
Again, you're assuming no one will ever Crunch as it switches in, or even that WoW will miss and you'll get Crunched 1/6 battles. And your best case scenario you will either burn it while losing 80% of your health or force it out into something that probably doesn't care about WoW. And Kanga can always build up more momentum thanks to PUP.

Same with D-Bond, 105 speed is good, but you can easily be sniped with priority, faster attackers, or just hit on the switch again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:09:57 No.17635373 Report

Quoted By: >>17635929

Wouldn't Wobbuffet do the job handily?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:35:22 No.17635929 Report

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>>17635373
That's not a good solution in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:38:24 No.17635989 Report

Quoted By: >>17636287

Some faggot used Mega mom in battle spot the other night and I was able to wall it with Togekiss. Took Power up Punch like a sponge, shut it down with t wave and proceeded to spam Air Slash. Togekiss is fucking based, and I have no idea why more people don't run it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:46:35 No.17636123 Report

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What's going on here, guys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:53:39 No.17636253 Report

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>>17628225

Metagross w/ Rocky Helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:55:32 No.17636287 Report

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>>17635989
Because paraflinch is for fags. It's almost on the same tier of faggotry as using megamom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:56:09 No.17636300 Report

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I am damn surprised you guys haven't said this yet.
KOJONDO

J Sal 4742-6496-8948 (Espurr, Munna, Duosion)

J Sal 4742-6496-8948 (Espurr, Munna, Duosion) Sun 26 Jan 2014 02:58:50 No.17636351 Report

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Intimidate and will-o-wisp.

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