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Mamoswine

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:35:38 No.17780842 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17781166 >>17781619 >>17781807

Just started breeding this for a more aggressive lead. My plan is:
Adamant w/focus sash
Ice shard
Icicle crash
Earthquake
Stealth rock

Would it be a good lead? Should I run endeavor since ill have sash? What ability is best? Should I consider jolly?
Discuss and advice appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:38:38 No.17780898 Report

Quoted By: >>17780955 >>17780980

I would breed for endeavor so you dont completely get walled by rotom-W

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:41:58 No.17780955 Report

Quoted By: >>17780980 >>17781022

>>17780898
Who passes that to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:43:28 No.17780980 Report

Quoted By: >>17781013 >>17781045

>>17780955
>>17780898
Endeavor is a transfer move only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:45:34 No.17781013 Report

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>>17780980
I can get one from a friend I know in Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:45:57 No.17781022 Report

Quoted By: >>17781066

>>17780955
Nobody it's a move tutor move from a previous generation (insert quip about bank never coming out).

You are stuck with icicle crash ice shard earthquake and stealth rock. Since he doesn't have access to superpower either despite Beartic learning it and being in the same egg group (wtf gf).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:47:30 No.17781045 Report

Quoted By: >>17781101

>>17780980
Damn. Well at least that completely solves one of my questions....
What is your take on the set above?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:48:43 No.17781066 Report

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>>17781022
I didn't plan on making a choice bend set, but the option with super power available would have been nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:51:27 No.17781101 Report

Quoted By: >>17781190

>>17781045
Pretty much all you can do with it in game. Stone edge is it's only other powerful physical attack but it's mostly redundant with the excellent coverage ice and ground give you (ok, it can hit volcarona for 4x but that's it).

The only other choice you have is if you want it to lead in which case oblivious is the better choice for the taunt immunity. Though most people expect it so they don't bother you might squeak by with thick fat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:55:20 No.17781166 Report

Quoted By: >>17781202 >>17781206

>>17780842
How in the flying #$@% do I get my Swinub to learn Ancient Power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:56:44 No.17781190 Report

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>>17781101
Hmmm I see.
I'm confident I won't see taunt much in my local meta at least. even if they taunt first turn, it just means mamo is force to beat their face in (which it does well with that stat spread and adamant).
How critical is jolly for the lead set? I was hoping to lay SR and switch if needed so it will come back later, hence why I want the power. But if I miss the speed it could cripple me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:57:21 No.17781202 Report

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>>17781166
Top kekleon

Stealth rock you'll need smeargle iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 22:57:46 No.17781206 Report

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>>17781166
Move relearner. Grind your heart scales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:00:38 No.17781254 Report

Quoted By: >>17781270 >>17781286 >>17781320

i've been trying to breed an adamant swinub all day with no luck

should i just use a jolly one or is the speed boost unnecessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:01:55 No.17781270 Report

Quoted By: >>17781283 >>17781306

>>17781254
What do you mean with no luck?

Get a dito with Adamant that's holding an Everstone or just breed until one has it.
That can't take longer than 30 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:02:56 No.17781283 Report

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>>17781270
Ditto*

What the fuck, keyboard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:03:07 No.17781286 Report

Quoted By: >>17781368

>>17781254
I tend to go Jolly so I can outspeed things like unboosted Dragonite and hit it with an Icicle Spear.

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Tim 1478-4207-2056 (Drowzee, Sigilyph, Xatu) SV: 1788 Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:03:08 No.17781287 Report

Quoted By: >>17781304 >>17781328 >>17781368

Freezw dry is another option to counter rotom w. Im going to try and buil a weakness policy set with freezw dry, eq, icicle crash, ice shard. Opinions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:04:10 No.17781304 Report

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>>17781287
>three ice moves
Just don't forget Earthquake then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:04:14 No.17781306 Report

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>>17781270
i think you misread my post

i've been trying to breed an adamant swinub ALL DAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:04:48 No.17781320 Report

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>>17781254

Adamant is pretty much just for muscling past heavily defensive Pokemon like ferro or skarmory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:04:58 No.17781328 Report

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>>17781287
How is Mamoswine with Weakness Policy anyway?

Is it a common set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:07:28 No.17781368 Report

Quoted By: >>17781438

>>17781287
I recall seeing a video about the viability of that set on YouTube. Fuck what was that dudes name? Poke something.
>>17781286
Most Dnite spreads I've seen don't go jolly or max speed. I believe the standard I've been reading/using/seeing is adamant with 152/156 speed to out speed max speed lati@s at +1.
That said, what other things are crucial out speeds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:11:14 No.17781438 Report

Quoted By: >>17781516

>>17781368
Not that much else, it can outspeed Gliscors if i'm not mistaken as long as they aren't fully speed invested either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:16:32 No.17781516 Report

Quoted By: >>17781544

>>17781438
Gliscor is actually 289 with neutral nature and max investment. Jolly swine is 285. I think 226 is no investment gliscor, and mamo is 259 with 252 speed and adamant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:18:45 No.17781544 Report

Quoted By: >>17781652

>>17781516
Well shit, are Gliscors usually fully speed invested? I could swear it's usually 252 in HP, a lot in defense and the rest somewhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:22:35 No.17781619 Report

Quoted By: >>17781651 >>17781742

>>17780842
You might want Icicle Spear over Icicle Crash to fuck over frailer Sashes.
It just so happens that I have a few 5-6V Adamant Swinub with Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Ancient Power, and Stealth Rock, which I'll happily give away on GTS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:24:10 No.17781651 Report

Quoted By: >>17781752

>>17781619
ill take one off your hands

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:24:10 No.17781652 Report

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>>17781544
Unfortunately the sets I'm seeing are 224/252 speed, 244 HP and 40/16 def. last set I saw was 224hp,248def, rest spe.
Meh since I normally have greninja I should be ok using adamant I guess...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:28:23 No.17781742 Report

Quoted By: >>17781779 >>17781815

>>17781619
That would be awesome!
I can give you a 5iv rough skin gible for you're trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:28:57 No.17781752 Report

Quoted By: >>17781806 >>17781853

>>17781651
Well, put up something on GTS asking for a Swinub. Let me know your IGN and what to look for, though at this point I've traded most of them for legendaries and dex fillers.
There are 4 6V HA males, 3 6V females with no Hidden Ability, and two 5V HA females, one of which needs a trip to the move relearner for the egg moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:30:04 No.17781779 Report

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>>17781742
Actually, that's exactly what I'm trying to get right now. Put it up with your IGN and I'll try to get to it as soon as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:31:55 No.17781806 Report

Quoted By: >>17781815

>>17781752
Ign blue and the gible I put up is female. A 6iv ha male is preferred but a 5iv ha female/male would be just dandy. Thanks a bunch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:31:59 No.17781807 Report

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>>17780842
This set is great, one of my all time favourite leads. Adamat is the best nature as for the ability I would go with oblivious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:32:33 No.17781815 Report

Quoted By: >>17781892

>>17781742
You were Blue, correct?
>>17781806
Ah, looks like it. I saw it and sent a female.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:34:56 No.17781853 Report

Quoted By: >>17781948

>>17781752
ok i put up a larvesta, the name is khalis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:36:57 No.17781892 Report

Quoted By: >>17781948

>>17781815
Yep, was in fact a same-fag moment.
Thanks a ton dude! The gible I sent (only kind I have really) are geared to be M-chomps. I used naughty to boost atk since the speed drop when I mega. Personal set is fire blast, EQ, SE, and dragon claw on my 6iv one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:40:09 No.17781948 Report

Quoted By: >>17782007 >>17782034

>>17781853
I gotchu.
>>17781892
I was mostly in need of a decent IV parent with Rough Skin. I'm already running Mega Venusaur, and my team really needs a good sweeper since Barbaracle can't cut it. Dragon/Ground shares almost no weaknesses with my current party.
3 6IV HA males, 2 6IV females, and one 5IV HA female remain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:42:13 No.17782007 Report

Quoted By:

>>17781948
Nice! I'm a fan of it mainly for the wall breaking ability of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Feb 2014 23:43:36 No.17782034 Report

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>>17781948
thanks a ton man

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