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Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 22:47:57 No.17886492 View View Reply Original Report

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Okay my fellow anons. I made a thread a few days ago and got some really great help so here's hoping for the same.

According to the help I had earlier, it seems I may have finally achieved the perfect Eevee so I can make my competitive Vaporeon.

My Eevee is currently Lv.1 with starting stats on screen as follows:

>HP-12
>ATK-5
>DEF-6
>SP.ATK-6
>SP.DEF-6
>SPEED-6

>Nature-MODEST
>ABILITY-ADAPTABILITY

>EggMove-WISH

and the IV checker called him Outstanding, complimented about all the stats, saying they "can't be beat" (meaning they're 31 I assume right?)

So my silly question now is what to do from here? I'm not the smartest fellow so I need specifics whenever I do something otherwise I end up in a block. So is there a step by step thing I should be doing now?

Do I just throw the WATER stone immediately on this Eevee and turn it into a Vaporeon now? if not now WHEN?

I assume the stats I should be raising for my Modest Vaporeon is mainly Sp.ATK, but which others am I raising? for how long or how many EVs?

I think I've covered all the questions I need to know so any help would be appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 22:56:43 No.17886609 Report

Quoted By: >>17886753

Typical set is:
Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Scald
- Toxic / Ice Beam / Roar

All these moves, aside from Wish, can be learned from TMs, so it doesn't matter when you evolve it.

So go EV train in Horde Battles:
>http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/a-guide-to-ev-training-with-hordes.3490052/

You're not a tank, you're a wall, so you picked the wrong nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 22:58:15 No.17886634 Report

Quoted By: >>17886753

it all depends on what you want to do.

Vaporeon can do a few neat things with Baton Pass, giving wishes and defense buffs to your team. If that's what you want, level it to thirty then evolve it.

If you're going for a tanky set that doesn't provide team support outside of being a bulky water, then you're better off with slowbro, but you should be good to evolve it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:05:45 No.17886753 Report

Quoted By: >>17886818 >>17886853 >>17886887

>>17886609

actually I didn't pick the wrong nature, because Modest is for +Sp.Atk -Atk, meaning my Vaporeon is not for tanking or wall it's supposed to be an offensive attacker.

>>17886634
>it all depends on what you want to do.

I picked the Modest nature for my future Vaporeon because I wanted him to be a big hitter and was told he has the potential to 1-hit/2-hit some mons out because of his Sp.Atk. Added Wish on his moves just in case and I assume Adaptability will become Vaporeon's Hydration which could be useful if I have another pokemon with raindance or something.

so all in all I just wanted him to be threatening and do some big hits.

Rosa !OyBSNIII7E

Rosa !OyBSNIII7E Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:10:12 No.17886818 Report

Quoted By: >>17886935

>>17886753
adaptability becomes water absorb which is better for it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:12:21 No.17886853 Report

Quoted By: >>17886935

>>17886753
>it's supposed to be an offensive attacker.
It's easily outperformed in that role though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:14:31 No.17886887 Report

Quoted By: >>17886935

>>17886753
Evolve it immediately, Eevee doesn't give it any moves worth learning.
I recommend giving it Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and Wish/Aqua Ring, possibly with Expert Belt or Leftovers. Do you want it to be purely attacking or have some support moves (Wish, Toxic, etc.)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:17:19 No.17886935 Report

Quoted By: >>17887004

>>17886818

that sucks in one way since that means I didn't understand the steps of secret abilities in the last thread I made, but I guess it turned out good for this case.

>>17886853
I wouldn't know this is my very first competitive pokemon in the history of the world. I never got into the competitive scene seeing as how difficult understanding EVs and IVs and breeding are but I figured since Pokemon X/Y came out that I'd give it a shot and see what happens.

Plus I did this with Vaporeon since he's my favorite pokemon so I kind of want a competitive team of pokemon I love instead of what's best since I only want to use them for online battles and not tourneys.

>>17886887
okay so to be clear the ONLY difference between evolving it now or later is movesets yeah? nothing else affects the pokemon when it's evolved too early or too late?

I ended up giving him Wish just in case, so I guess that move set you gave me would be a good idea yeah?

not sure if I want him support or pure attack, maybe I could have another pokemon be the support in the team yeah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:20:49 No.17886994 Report

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Mine goes with
Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Aqua Ring
- Scald
- Acid Armor

There's a lot of ways you can play him, but there are better attackers so usually ppl go with support role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:21:51 No.17887004 Report

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>>17886935
Yes, the only difference is movesets.
Nothing Eevee learns is too useful for the Vaporeon you're trying to raise.
Wish can be important if you want to keep Vaporeon healthy. Since Vaporeon's slow it probably won't be outspeeding much and you should try to make sure it can take as many hits as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:22:06 No.17887006 Report

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Vap has awesome HP stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2014 23:22:34 No.17887013 Report

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well thanks for the answers guys, I'll be off but I'll be back in a few and check up on this thread and keep it tabbed in case it 404s so I can read through it.

thanks for the help so far.

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