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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:34:10 No.17898962 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17898975 >>17899208 >>17900074

CHALLENGE: Make Delphox viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:35:33 No.17898974 Report

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Trick Room
Explosion
Flash
Magical Leaf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:35:34 No.17898975 Report

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>>17898962
Give it drain punch
Cap: them legsgoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:36:32 No.17898986 Report

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Thunderbolt. -20 Atk +20 HP Ditch the Psychic type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:36:52 No.17898990 Report

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I found a place where it can be viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:37:23 No.17898998 Report

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fire fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:37:51 No.17899004 Report

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alright just let me power over smogon and create the NU tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:38:07 No.17899009 Report

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Give it Protean like it should have had

Mage powering up spells and a ninja stealing shit makes more sense
It looks like they switched abilities because someone liked Greninja more

Also a wider movepool to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:38:25 No.17899010 Report

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Give it Thunderbolt and Focus Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:40:31 No.17899031 Report

Quoted By: >>17899044

But why male?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:41:44 No.17899044 Report

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>>17899031
Oh shit, it's make. That was dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:46:28 No.17899101 Report

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Ability: magical fire / intense flames / cool name

All non super effective fire attacks from this pokemon does normal damage. Immunities does not apply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:46:31 No.17899103 Report

Quoted By: >>17899138

> Substitute
> Psychock
> will o wisp/Hypnosis
> Heat Wave

>Magician
>HP and Speed EVs
>Red Card

I go with this very well, maybe move tutors will give Delphox something better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:46:52 No.17899108 Report

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Fire Blast
Shadow Ball/Psyshock
Grass Knot
Will-O-Wisp/Calm Mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:49:14 No.17899138 Report

Quoted By: >>17899304

>>17899103
What's red card for? I know what the item does, but how is it helpfull here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:49:32 No.17899144 Report

Quoted By: >>17899186 >>17899205

it should have access to all special attack/status tms because its a wizard/mage/sorcerer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:53:27 No.17899186 Report

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>>17899144
So much this. It's like they came up with this cool sorcerer/wizard concept but stoped caring halfway through and forgot to give it the apropriate movepool and ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:55:42 No.17899204 Report

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Mystical Fire is upgraded to 85 base power and has a 50% chance of lower the opponent's specil attack.

It learns Focus Blast.

It gets Flash Fire.

Stats are revamped to 75/49/65/124/110/114

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:55:48 No.17899205 Report

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>>17899144
AKA: BAAAAAAWWWWWW I WANT ENERGY BALL AND ICE BEAM AND THUNDERBOLT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:56:04 No.17899208 Report

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>>17898962
Mage Boost- "Magic" and "spell" based moves are +1 priority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:57:48 No.17899235 Report

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>>17899205
its a mage, it can shoot anything it wants from his wand

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:59:10 No.17899254 Report

Quoted By: >>17899301 >>17899313

Why is it hard to use? It's a fire and psychic type and they both have great moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 16:59:15 No.17899259 Report

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>>17899235
>his

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 17:00:07 No.17899273 Report

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>>17899259
87% male

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 17:01:12 No.17899301 Report

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>>17899254
Because its special movepool is basically Flamethrower/Psychic/Shadow Ball.
It needs something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 17:01:19 No.17899304 Report

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>>17899138

You consume the Red Card after setting Substitute, then next turn you steal whatever with Magician or burn/put to sleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 17:01:52 No.17899313 Report

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>>17899254
Sneaky pebbles, Smogon bird, Smogon laundromat, Smogon frog, and the other 3/4 of the OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 17:03:22 No.17899332 Report

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>>17899313
Yeah, that explains why my bro Volcarona is shit.

;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 17:10:10 No.17899421 Report

Quoted By: >>17899724

Ability: Double Cast
50% chance to use a move twice. The 2nd move is half the effectiveness of the first one.

Basically a nerfed Parental Bond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 17:33:45 No.17899724 Report

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>>17899421
Reminds me of FF's Red Mage.
God I hate those cunts casting double Summons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 18:05:32 No.17900074 Report

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>>17898962
Give it Moonblast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 18:16:01 No.17900199 Report

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Give it Serene Grace and Fiery Dance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:10:49 No.17900899 Report

Quoted By: >>17900959 >>17901049

Its hidden ability does make it viable. Give it Red Card as an item, so after they set up and hit you they get switched out and lose their buffs. Now, since you no longer have an item you can use your hidden ability to steal the item of whichever pokemon that got switched in. Use will-o-wisp or toxic to cripple as well as steal the leftovers and the pokemon that rely on it.

tl;dr HA is great if used correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:12:58 No.17900914 Report

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-20 Sp.Def
+20 HP

MAGIC Guard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:18:20 No.17900959 Report

Quoted By: >>17900972

>>17900899

>Now, since you no longer have an item you can use your hidden ability to steal the item of whichever pokemon that got switched in

I hope you like Choice Bands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:19:19 No.17900972 Report

Quoted By: >>17901103

>>17900959

It cripples them as much as it cripples me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:25:00 No.17901049 Report

Quoted By: >>17901130

>>17900899
Knock Off does that without the ever-present risk of hindering yourself with Choice items and shit like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:30:00 No.17901103 Report

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>>17900972
nah, depending on the situation, a choice user might end up being better off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:32:34 No.17901130 Report

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>>17901103
>>17901049

Both of these are true, but there are some Pokemon you can expect to have choice items, and some you can expect will never have choice items. It has to be used intelligently (hard, i know) but Delphox with HA is definitely viable. Perhaps not OU tier, but still fun.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 19:35:15 No.17901167 Report

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>greninja gets an ability to power up moves
>delphox steals shit

I guess it's ok at support with wish/hypnosis but it's greatly outclassed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 20:04:42 No.17901521 Report

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Change magician so rather than stealing an item upon dealing damage it applies a knock off effect to all attacks. A better movepool would help to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 20:30:47 No.17901912 Report

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I wish Delphox were at least viable enough for the Mansion. Favorite Pokémon, yet I can't use it for anything other than storyline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2014 20:33:05 No.17901953 Report

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Give it SpD version of Fur Coat

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