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Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:05:26 No.17936160 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17936185 >>17936369

How do I make this guy viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:07:36 No.17936173 Report

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have sex with it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:08:53 No.17936181 Report

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Do the same thing every other Pokemon with Shell Smash does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:09:19 No.17936182 Report

Quoted By: >>17936207 >>17936354

Carracosta @ White Herb
Sturdy
Whichever nature boosts speed and reduces special attack
252 Atk 252 Spd 4 HP
Shell Smash
Aqua Jet
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:11:10 No.17936185 Report

Quoted By: >>17936201 >>17936302 >>17936397 >>17936585

>>17936160
Shell Smash+Sturdy+Weakness Policy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:13:34 No.17936201 Report

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>>17936185
Mhhhhhhh dis 1 my nigga dis 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:14:29 No.17936207 Report

Quoted By: >>17936231

>>17936182

Ignore White Herb, realised that's for fucking two turn moves not negating stat drops.
Weakness policy is best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:18:37 No.17936231 Report

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>>17936207
power herb is the two turn item

Rhys [4313-0800-9606] (spritzee, dedenne, floette)

Rhys [4313-0800-9606] (spritzee, dedenne, floette) Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:28:00 No.17936302 Report

Quoted By: >>17936339

>>17936185
what about solid rock instead of sturdy? or would it die after shell smashing to a giga drain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:32:20 No.17936339 Report

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>>17936302
I haven't tried it out yet, I don't know. Just try both abilities out on a simulator a bit to find out which one you would prefer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:34:05 No.17936354 Report

Quoted By: >>17936621 >>17936628

>>17936182
But that speed is unusable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:35:55 No.17936369 Report

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>>17936160

Pair him with Blastoise, Torterra, Torkoal, Avalugg, and Shuckle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 12:40:05 No.17936397 Report

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>>17936185
aw shit, I never thought about weakness policy with this nigga

With Jolly nature: +4 252 Atk Carracosta Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 444-524 (125.4 - 148%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:19:10 No.17936585 Report

Quoted By: >>17936615

>>17936397
>>17936185
How about adamant/aqua jet? Give it some HP EVs as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:24:42 No.17936615 Report

Quoted By: >>17936828 >>17937003

>>17936585
+4 252+ Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 246-290 (69.4 - 81.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
So it can hit pretty damn hard.

Ader 0344 9703 0124 (Krabby, Wartortle, Azumarill)

Ader 0344 9703 0124 (Krabby, Wartortle, Azumarill) Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:26:11 No.17936621 Report

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>>17936354
with a shell smash, 252 EVs on speed and adamant nature, it comes close to outrunning base +nature 252 base 100s
jolly guarantees it, so it depends on what you want to outspeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:27:25 No.17936628 Report

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>>17936354
For the most part, it would at least outspeed walls and with Aqua Jet, still hit sweepers hard.

Dredi 3823-9152-2843 (Panpour, Gyarados, Frogadier)

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Dredi 3823-9152-2843 (Panpour, Gyarados, Frogadier) Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:44:15 No.17936698 Report

Quoted By: >>17936716 >>17936720 >>17936754 >>17936776 >>17936792

What about this guy right here? I always liked it a lot more than the other fossil, but his ability is beyond salvation for competitive use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:46:46 No.17936716 Report

Quoted By: >>17936750 >>17942384

>>17936698
Red Button Cofagrigus.
Pursuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:47:34 No.17936720 Report

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>>17936698
You could always slap a Sitrus Berry on it so when it hits defeatist range, it has a good chance to get back out of it after consumption.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:51:36 No.17936750 Report

Quoted By: >>17936759

>>17936716
>Red Button Cofagrigus
Elaborate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:52:17 No.17936754 Report

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>>17936698
just get rid of sneaky pebble
it's fast and strong enough to take care of most things that you want

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:52:21 No.17936756 Report

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Trick room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:52:51 No.17936759 Report

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>>17936750
Mummy spree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:54:25 No.17936776 Report

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>>17936698
Choice Band with Head Smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 13:56:15 No.17936792 Report

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>>17936698
name: Acrobatics
move 1: Acrobatics
move 2: Stone Edge
move 3: Earth Power
move 4: Head Smash / U-turn / Roost
item: Flying Gem
nature: Naive
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

Straight from the smogon page.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 14:02:52 No.17936828 Report

Quoted By: >>17936836

>>17936615
>+4
after 2 shell smashes? Thats kinda disappointing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 14:04:19 No.17936836 Report

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>>17936828
shell smash + sturdy + weakness policy, not 2 smashes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 14:20:29 No.17936923 Report

Quoted By: >>17936948

So Adamant for more power if you don't mind getting outsped or Jolly if you want to outspeed more things, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 14:24:05 No.17936948 Report

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>>17936923
Pretty much, it can still leave some good damage regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 14:30:43 No.17937003 Report

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>>17936615
>+4 after shell smash
That's fucking nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2014 19:11:06 No.17940414 Report

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So I shouldn't thread this guy as a wall right?

went as a defensive and, despite having insane defense I still get a lot of damage

This isn't like my Crustle that can wall fucking everything

Creed 3797-7225-0720

Creed 3797-7225-0720 Sun 09 Feb 2014 20:54:59 No.17942384 Report

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>>17936716
>Red Button

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