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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 00:57:31 No.17983063 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>17983284 >>17984368 >>17984645 >>17986193 >>17986445

Why does its HA have to be so worthless, /vp/? Unless Harvest starts to take over the competitive scene, there is no reason whatsoever to run Unnerve over Sand Stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:01:14 No.17983135 Report

Quoted By: >>17983176

what if you don't want residual damage to pile up on your team

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:03:13 No.17983176 Report

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>>17983135
>not making a steel/rock/ground team so you can get sand veil/force plus a SpD boost for all your rock types

it's like you don't even like winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:09:22 No.17983284 Report

Quoted By: >>17983340

>>17983063
Why would you use a Tyranitar without Sandstream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:13:14 No.17983340 Report

Quoted By: >>17983368 >>17983401

>>17983284
Why would you use a Tyranitar with Sandstream and not the superior Sand Stream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:15:15 No.17983368 Report

Quoted By: >>17983444 >>17983505

>>17983340
Why would you actually put your email in the email field?
but seriously, why would anyone run an unnerve tyranitar in the first place

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:16:32 No.17983401 Report

Quoted By: >>17986548

>>17983340
ebin. simply ebin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:16:58 No.17983407 Report

Quoted By: >>17983462 >>17983479 >>17983491 >>17983520 >>17983880 >>17984592

>7 weaknesses

Is there any point to using T-Tar now? It seems like the risks outweigh the rewards

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:19:22 No.17983444 Report

Quoted By: >>17983629 >>17985102 >>17985686

>>17983368
Fake email.
I'm just upset GF decided to make Unnerve making T-tar's HA slot a waste of potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:20:39 No.17983462 Report

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>>17983407

Doesn't matter how many weaknesses it has when it's so bulky. Assault Vest Tyranitar can take special attacks as well as Blissey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:21:36 No.17983479 Report

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>>17983407
>assualt vest TTar

Being the best special tank in the game works out pretty well for him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:22:24 No.17983491 Report

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>>17983407
600 base stats, sandstream boost to special defense, ridiculously strong dragon dancing mega evolution, sandstorm for residual damage and team support, ridiculously unpredictable movepool and set options, pursuit.

T-Tar's still pretty great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:23:12 No.17983505 Report

Quoted By: >>17983555 >>17983629

>>17983368
>why would anyone run an unnerve tyranitar in the first place
Maybe they just want to use Tyranitar without the residual damage for the rest of the team. On the other hand, Assault Vest+the sand is horrifying to face, so eh. I should try to make one someday, i already use Anticipation Ferrothorn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:23:54 No.17983520 Report

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>>17983407
Because he's your friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:23:57 No.17983524 Report

Quoted By: >>17983666

I only battle among my friends, the best of which abuses harvest, and other tactics involving berries. I just wanted a Tyranitar to throw a monkey wrench into those kind of plans. I can't think of any other unnerve pokemon I'd prefer to use.

That said, I couldn't find Larviatr with HA, so I just settled with Magmortar with incinerate. And clear smog gets rid of any stat buffing shenanagainst with his cupcake dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:25:43 No.17983555 Report

Quoted By: >>17983586 >>17983666

>>17983505
>Anticipation Ferrothorn

Is that thing any good? Is Anticipation useful at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:27:07 No.17983586 Report

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>>17983555
Well it's only weak to Fire and Fighting. It could be a good indicator if a Pokemon who wouldn't normally carry fire had it and could ruin a surprise pretty well.

Still flat-out inferior, but situationally useful in some way shape or form.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:28:27 No.17983612 Report

Quoted By: >>17983697

The real question is, who the fuck thought this fucker's second ability was a good idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:29:34 No.17983629 Report

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>>17983444
No need for the email, anyways. Just do without it, anon.
>>17983505
Ah, that makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:31:23 No.17983666 Report

Quoted By: >>17983692 >>17983778 >>17984494

>>17983524
Could use Pyroar

>>17983555
Not really, but it's usable. It's not like people use contact moves on purpose against it.I have to use it because it's shiny

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:32:47 No.17983692 Report

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>>17983666
I'm pretty adamant about not using pokemon who's designs I can't like, and I have never liked Lions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:33:02 No.17983697 Report

Quoted By: >>17984320

>>17983612
Probably the same people who thought Zen Mode was a good idea

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:36:22 No.17983747 Report

Quoted By: >>17984368

Be... thankful... that... your ability/abilities don't cripple you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:38:09 No.17983778 Report

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>>17983666
I like to play with underdog abilities to screw around. Like with Ferrothorn: people are so used to Iron Barb + Rocky Helmet that you could run anticipation + weakness Policy (or anything not too obvious) and people would still avoid contact moves out of habit.

Mike (3797-6989-4912)

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Mike (3797-6989-4912) Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:40:57 No.17983845 Report

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When the fuck will we be able to use this guy's HA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:43:17 No.17983880 Report

Quoted By:

>>17983407
git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 01:54:02 No.17984110 Report

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Would a Weakness Policy Tyranitar be viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:04:37 No.17984320 Report

Quoted By:

>>17983697
I wouldn't have a problem with Zen Mode if it didn't add two weaknesses to an already weakened Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:06:59 No.17984368 Report

Quoted By: >>17984431

>>17983747
Should a picture of Slaking or Archeops be in there instead of Regigigas?

>>17983063
Speaking of Useless HA, Pyroar says hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:09:48 No.17984431 Report

Quoted By: >>17984507 >>17984509 >>17984519 >>17984554 >>17984653

>>17984368
>Moxie
>Useless

Pick one

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:12:21 No.17984490 Report

Quoted By:

>thread is talking about worthless HA
>not one mention about Delibird

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:12:34 No.17984494 Report

Quoted By:

>>17983666
>It's not like people use contact moves on purpose against it.
Anticipation is an announced ability, so they stop caring about a nonexistent Iron Barbs the second they see that you "shuddered"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:13:25 No.17984507 Report

Quoted By:

>>17984431
I think the anon is referring to the fact that Pyroar's better offensive stat is Sp. Attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:13:30 No.17984509 Report

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>>17984431
I do not think, Anon meant that Moxie itself is useless but on Pyroar. Its physical move pool is not as versatile as its special one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:14:08 No.17984519 Report

Quoted By:

>>17984431
>base stats
Try getting a kill with physical Pyroar, then realize that even after the boost, Arcanine, Darmanitan, FLAREON, and Entei are still better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:15:54 No.17984554 Report

Quoted By: >>17984646

>>17984431
>Moxie
>Special Attacker
>Not useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:18:04 No.17984592 Report

Quoted By:

>>17983407
There is always a point to Tyranitar because the motherfucker defies all logic and still manages to sweep for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:20:55 No.17984645 Report

Quoted By: >>17984694

>>17983063
If you're running Mega TTar and you lead with it, then Unnerve will make it so that you always get your weather up against something like M-Charizard Y or Politoad. Only real use for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:20:58 No.17984646 Report

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>>17984554
I forgot that Moxie boosts attack for a minute. I take the blame for that mistake,I don't usually run a Moxie booster on my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:21:32 No.17984653 Report

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>>17984431
Use Entrainment to pass Moxie to a fucking Regigigas or Slaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:23:37 No.17984694 Report

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>>17984645
If you're mega-ing, you already beat Politoed in the weather war. Zardy depends on speed, slower is better so you still beat it. Having Sand Stream doesn't change either of those things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:32:13 No.17984856 Report

Quoted By: >>17984984 >>17985007 >>17985065

4 SpA Life Orb Reuniclus Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 244-291 (60.3 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Reuniclus: 254-302 (59.9 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

That's why Tyranitar is so great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:38:39 No.17984984 Report

Quoted By: >>17985055 >>17985118

>>17984856
The problem is that 99.9% of Reuniclus carry Trick Room. Meaning that Tyranitar will deal damage, but won't live long enough to kill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:39:51 No.17985007 Report

Quoted By: >>17985055 >>17985118

>>17984856
>4 SpA

sure buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:41:10 No.17985028 Report

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With Unnerve, you can choose when to activate sandstream by making Tyranitar go mega. Not everyone wants to run Tyranitar exclusively on a sand team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:41:35 No.17985036 Report

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Tyranitar will always have a use with it's top 10 movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:42:38 No.17985055 Report

Quoted By: >>17985098

>>17984984
If its first attack is on the turn the blob uses trickroom, then it will win. It only loses to the blob if it has already used trickroom, and manages to connect both times with focus miss.

>>17985007
Just going by usage stats on showdown. Here's the alternate version:

252+ Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 4+ Def Reuniclus: 338-402 (79.7 - 94.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Reuniclus Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 296-354 (73.2 - 87.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:43:01 No.17985065 Report

Quoted By: >>17985232 >>17985494 >>17986186

>>17984856
>4 Spa Reuniclus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:44:38 No.17985098 Report

Quoted By:

>>17985055
but a lot of people carry at least 1 physical fighting move
I love tyranitar but he's just too easy to take down

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:44:46 No.17985102 Report

Quoted By:

>>17983444
At least unnerve has some use. Metagross gets fucking light metal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:45:22 No.17985118 Report

Quoted By:

>>17984984
If its first attack is on the turn the blob uses trickroom, then it will win. It only loses to the blob if it has already used trickroom, and manages to connect both times with focus miss.

>>17985007
Just going by usage stats on showdown. Here's the alternate version:

252+ Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Reuniclus: 372-438 (87.7 - 103.3%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Reuniclus Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 322-385 (79.7 - 95.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:50:43 No.17985232 Report

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>>17985065
Because the alternative is having a 1/5 chance to be OHKO'd by Tyranitar. I was giving the best chance the blob has with that setup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 02:59:53 No.17985494 Report

Quoted By:

>>17985065

It's a x4 weakness, what did you expect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 03:08:21 No.17985686 Report

Quoted By:

>>17983444
Delibird has two identic abilities as its normal and its hidden one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 03:31:00 No.17986186 Report

Quoted By:

>>17985065
Scary how Leo DiCaprio looks like Jack Nicholson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 03:31:18 No.17986193 Report

Quoted By:

>>17983063
My already powerful Pokémon with an even more vicious Megaevo needs to be even more powerful ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 03:43:52 No.17986445 Report

Quoted By: >>17986504

>>17983063
What about Lillipup? It gets fucking Run Away as it's hidden ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 03:46:58 No.17986504 Report

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>>17986445
But when it evolves Run Away turns into Scrappy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 03:49:06 No.17986548 Report

Quoted By: >>17986620

>>17983401
>le 9fag/leddit image XDXD!

Well, I think it's time to say goodbye to /vp/ now. It's turned into leddit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2014 03:52:46 No.17986620 Report

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>>17986548
>Getting this upset over a fucking image

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