Anonymous
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READ THE NOTICE IN THE OP
Anonymous
>>18142231 How do you register for a chance at becoming a gym leader?
Callum (Rock Leader) 4098-2678-4492
Callum (Rock Leader) 4098-2678-4492
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>>18142329 The application form will be put out this weekend. All the precise info will be put out then.
Anonymous
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>>18142329 >imminent You wait until registration goes up and then you register.
Anonymous
>>18142231 Anyone from the last season have any relevant information as to how they pick the gym leaders?
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 07:34:39 No. 18142505 Report Posting this again here because old thred is ded Fairy gym is now open! Sorry for my inactivity and general all around ignoring this for the last two days. Been busy packing. Also, I just tested a new strategy on a ratings battle with a MonoFairy team. While it feels like a difficult setup to pull off, the results had me in stitches. I think my opponent was retarded just a little bit but still, enjoyable to watch it should be. Here's a video. 8MWW-WWWW-WWW5-LKGU
Callum (Rock Leader) 4098-2678-4492
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>>18142501 Its a tournament.
Battle through rounds to become the only representative of your type. The top 8 of the 18 type finalists become leaders.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>18142501 everyone participates in several rounds of general pairings in double elimination fashion until only one person remains for each of the 18 types.
then we do several rounds of swiss pairings between the 18 type reps to order them. the top 8 earn a spot as gym leader. the other 10 can be subbed in as needed.
Nanaca [Bug Gym] !Q20YwMj7Ck
I think it'd be a better idea to advertise the tournament primarily as what it is - a monotype tournament. There are people who won't be able to participate in the actual league challenge, like mato for example, and so it's important to clarifiy that while the top eight are allowed to become Gym Leaders for the next season of the challenge, that's not the sole purpose of the tournament. Just having monotype battles with each other is in itself something that should be pushed as a selling point of the tourney.
Callum (Rock Leader) 4098-2678-4492
Alan 1779-1398-1294
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>>18143569 I just need to grind up two more items at the battle maison, then I should be ready to start the challenge
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 10:52:02 No. 18144150 Report this one's for daniel
Alan 1779-1398-1294
Ok, any gym leaders around?
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 11:37:03 No. 18144460 Report >>18144424 Guess I'll be your first. Adding you now.
Are you ready to get dazzled?
Alan 1779-1398-1294
>>18144460 Sounds like fun
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 11:41:35 No. 18144505 Report Quoted By:
>>18144489 Alrighty, shoot me a challenge when you're ready.
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 11:44:06 No. 18144530 Report Mono-Psychic! I like it. This should be good.
Alan 1779-1398-1294
>>18144530 So, can carbink explode again?
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 11:50:51 No. 18144572 Report >>18144562 loooooooool I wish
love the nickname "No Ether"
Alan 1779-1398-1294
>>18144572 Well, it's actually a reference to a german mathematician, but I guess it works that way too, didn't even notice.
Alan 1779-1398-1294
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 11:58:23 No. 18144616 Report >>18144587 both those references are really cool, actually.
GG! That got close there, but Garlock with +4 SpD and SpA was too much even for +1 MegaAla.
I have lots of respect for you for using a monotype team in this challenge, especially the most underrated type of all.
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 11:59:28 No. 18144626 Report also goddamn Wobbuffet is a monster
Alan 1779-1398-1294
>>18144616 Hahaha, thanks, I quite enjoyed the match against your team and look foward to a rematch.
>>18144626 Wobbsy is great
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 12:13:04 No. 18144715 Report >>18144632 I did too, and I'm curious to see how the rematch will go. Sadly we have to wait a day for that :C
Alan 1779-1398-1294
>>18144715 Out of interest, if a focus sash is used is it expended in a player vs player battle?
Anonymous
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>>18144742 It doesn't
Also bump
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 12:26:03 No. 18144790 Report Quoted By:
>>18144742 Any items used in an online battle are not expended.
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 13:14:54 No. 18145098 Report Quoted By:
bump for insomnia
Tundra 0130-2068-7240
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I wish I could join the next tournement but my work schedule won't allow me to do that and I wanted to make a really cool mono Dark team too.
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18142821 >I think it'd be a better idea to advertise the tournament primarily as what it is - a monotype tournament. There are people who won't be able to participate in the actual league challenge, like mato for example, and so it's important to clarifiy that while the top eight are allowed to become Gym Leaders for the next season of the challenge, that's not the sole purpose of the tournament. Just having monotype battles with each other is in itself something that should be pushed as a selling point of the tourney. Agreed so much. Q pounded this into us, and it needs to be this way. If, in the top 18, you can't find even 8 people who want to run the Challenge... Well, I find that pretty unbelievable.
Also, WILL/W3: how in the world are you taking level 1s to le Wow for exp? Do you do nothing but Super Training? Super Training is fine for really custom EV spreads (88/252/88/80), but on your typical 252/252/6 pokemon, horde training is twice as fast. Horde EV training gets you some exp. By the time you head to le Wow, you might be level 15-30 already!
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 14:43:53 No. 18145891 Report Quoted By:
>>18145387 I usually have level 30-40's by the time I go to Le Wow for that last bit.
Training Attack with the EXP O-Power is a good way to make sure you're not grinding Le Wow for ages(That is if you're doing a spread that involves max attack)
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 14:45:04 No. 18145909 Report Monotype battles are insanely fun. That's our selling point.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18145909 you free for a challenge by any chance?
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 15:18:33 No. 18146284 Report >>18145957 I am I am! Sorry for not responding sooner.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18146284 uno momento, I must finish this le wow lap
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 15:52:07 No. 18146635 Report >>18146344 GG! That got close, but I made a silly mistake there trying to set up Azumarill.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18146635 GGs, I knew fairy would be a tough one for this team, as it has some real powerhouses in there.
I never really liked bellyjet Azumarill, choice band has always done far more damage to teams for me.
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 15:54:47 No. 18146658 Report What items are Scizor and Azumarill running, if I may ask? Azu must be Banded, so what is Scizor? Also here you are, your Fairy badge. A Carbuncle.
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 16:01:53 No. 18146736 Report >>18146650 Rotom-H and Scizor make a powerful combo. That's what really did me in.
That first battle, it seemed like you were scouting me rather than going straight for the kill.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18146658 Scizor is holding a lum berry
And on another note, I just finished my mono-electric team. 2 more gyms to go.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18146736 The way your fairy team is set up disallowed me from going all-in without knowing what I was going up against in any given match. Sure, bullet punch would murder clefable, but mawile and azumarill can deal with it, mawile and klefki get wrecked by overheat but azumarill, togekiss and clefable laugh at it.
Not as straightfoward as the bug or grass gyms which meant I could bring in Staraptor as soon as I dealt with one particular threat pokemon holding a focus sash.
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
finding a shiny noibat is suffering, all the ones on GTS want legendaries i have but cant trade over the GTS, brilliant, if i manage to get this little bastard i may have to go mono dragon instead of mono steel
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18147002 >implying shiny noivern even looks good Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18147010 i actually really like his shiny model, i want a shiny skrelp too
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18147029 success! i fought someone here the other day who had a noivern that could actually take a hit, im curious what spread they were running
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18147104 Well my standard spread Noivern can take a life orb thunder from Galvantula, so there's that.
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18147132 shit, what EV spread are you using? the last thing i need on my team is more glass cannons
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18147158 252 SpA Life Orb Galvantula Thunder vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Noivern: 230-270 (73.9 - 86.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Noivern has 85/80/80 defences which is enough to tank one or two non-SE hits fairly well
Anonymous
if everyone could just spam a little bit more anarchy that'd be greeaaaatttt
Anonymous
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>>18147197 ah so youre still max in speed and Sp.A then, well good to know he can at least take a hit, havent used noivern yet
Anonymous
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>>18147208 WHOOPS WRONG THREAD DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Wed 19 Feb 2014 16:57:04 No. 18147370 Report >>18144150 tnx bby i luv u :3
as i said before, taking challengers all weekend, cant now because internet issues
Anonymous
hmm, i want to make room for this noivern on my team but i dont know if i can take out my giant flying barney for him, weakness policy + multiscale + dragon dance = terrifying goofy dragon
Anonymous
>>18147642 keep flying barney so I can mold breaker dragon pulse it for a ohko when you try to set up
Anonymous
>>18147728 haha i dont ALWAYS go for dragon dance, but you better pray that it kills me because +2 dragonite with extremespeed hurts
Anonymous
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hmm, should i max HP and go for a utility noivern or max Sp.A and go all out attacker, decisions decisions
Anonymous
>>18147766 >(102.4 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO Anonymous
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>>18147728 Mold Breaker is such a valuable ability, now. People don't utilize it enough.
Anonymous
>>18148105 which pokemon gets STAB dragon pulse and mold breaker? Mega ampharos?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>18148368 haha yeah that terrifying special attacker haxorus. Im not sure if a 252 atk dragonite's outrage would OHKO a 252 HP mega ampharos though, i definitely wouldnt keep my dragonite in to find out
Anonymous
>>18148405 actually, it's exactly an OHKO
252 Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Mega Ampharos: 384-452 (100 - 117.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Anonymous
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>>18148747 Damn, well i still hate getting locked into outrage if i can avoid it. Impressive for dragonite though, mega ampharos is pretty bulky
Anonymous
I wish Parabolic Charge wasn't shit and was better distributed. Having it on Ampharos or Lanturn would be pretty sweet.
Anonymous
>>18148804 >>mega ampharos with agility, parabolic charge, STAB dragon pulse and rock gem/signal beam for coverage jesus
Anonymous
>>18148839 >Not running bulky Mega Ampharos with cotton guard instead of agility Anonymous
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>>18148854 forgot he could get cotton guard, with parabolic charge that would be nasty
Anonymous
>>18148839 needs something for ground types, rock gem doesn't cover that
Anonymous
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>>18148933 STAB dragon pulse is the best thing he can get for covering ground types
Anonymous
>>18148933 not sure if he can learn energy ball, if not probably would have to breed for HP ice if youre that worried about it, seems like a wasted move slot though
Anonymous
>>18148804 >not using based Heliolisk+Lanturn combo in doubles >Heliolisk used Parabolic Charge! >Lanturn's Volt Absorb activated! >Lanturn used Surf! >Heliolisk's Dry Skin activated! infinite restoration as long as you avoid OHKO's
seriously, trolls people so hard
Anonymous
>>18148947 He doesn't get energy ball/grass knot and STAB dragon pulse hits harder than HP ice/grass except in 4x SE instances
Anonymous
>>18148948 I didn't realise parabolic charge was a wide-range move, that would explain why it's BP50 and not 75 like giga drain.
Wish it was BP75 single target though Anonymous
>>18148962 besides if you are running cotton guard and manage to get one up you can take a non STAB EQ and probably ohko back
Anonymous
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>>18148982 It's like a weakened Discharge that heals you.
60BP would make it perfect Anonymous
>>18148992 you could also set up screens, and then when he comes in he drops just one cotton guard. after that it's all ogre for the enemy
Anonymous
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>>18149010 yeah mega ampharos behind screens would be a real bitch
Anonymous
>Trying to finalise mono-electric team for upcoming tournament >Can't decide which rotom form to use
Anonymous
>>18149387 go with mowtom and fuck up other washtoms that'll inevitably be there
Anonymous
>>18149387 im partial to Rotom H myself but
>>18149396 is a good choice too
Anonymous
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>>18149396 >>18149427 Yeah, it's come down to a decision between heat and mowtom for me. I don't need wash on my team, fridgetom doesn't offer much and fantom is kind of not a thing.
Anonymous
>>18149387 fantom his ability is oh so useful also based air slash
Anonymous
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>>18149478 >Naming your Rotom-Fan "Fantom" >mfw Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion]
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] Wed 19 Feb 2014 19:47:35 No. 18149640 Report >Spent the last day training up my shiny dratini >go to the move relearner >can't find extreme speed >Huh, that's weird, better look it up >egg move >Will have to use a boring normal colored Dragonite now. >Another hour of biking simulator to get there >Another day to train >Probably wont beat all the gyms before mono round 2 starts at this rate
Anonymous
>not naming your Mowtom 'No Tears'
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18149640 I have a pentaperfect egg move dratini minus HA if you want it
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Wed 19 Feb 2014 19:53:47 No. 18149706 Report >Decide to try see how much Last Resort Ambipom does against top tier threats on calculator >Lol nope this move doesn't exist. Don't worry, I'll still use you Ambipom.
Anonymous
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>>18149706 It doesn't have Brine on there either, I noticed.
Alan 1779-1398-1294
>>18149706 Onyx, are you taking challengers atm?
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Wed 19 Feb 2014 20:02:29 No. 18149819 Report >>18149746 I would but I left my 3DS on all night again so it needs to be charged.
Alan 1779-1398-1294
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>>18149819 Fair enough, just give a shout when you're ready, and I apologise in advance for the matchup.
Anonymous
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>>18149643 That is incredible.
Loki 1306-6595-2450( Diggersby Phanphy Camerupt)
Loki 1306-6595-2450( Diggersby Phanphy Camerupt) Wed 19 Feb 2014 20:34:29 No. 18150242 Report Quoted By:
Any gym leaders on?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 20:52:53 No. 18150528 Report can I do a test battle with someone here? want to test something for the sake of an argument in an email discussion with the other leaders
>>18149706 just type in the base power manually
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18150528 I could. Want me to use my challenge team or whatever?
Anonymous
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>>18150528 Sure, just give me a moment
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 20:59:24 No. 18150623 Report >>18150590 No I'm just testing to see what flat rules will let through
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18150623 Now you've got me confused.
Hope this helps concensus.
Loki 1306-6595-2450( Diggersby Phanphy Camerupt)
Loki 1306-6595-2450( Diggersby Phanphy Camerupt) Wed 19 Feb 2014 21:02:25 No. 18150670 Report >>18150623 can I get a challenge in after?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18150623 Well I'm sitting online whenever you're ready and done with bank
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 21:04:56 No. 18150709 Report >>18150670 I'm about to go eat, so not right now, sorry
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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can't not see tornadus' little purple spot as a red rocket
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 21:11:26 No. 18150828 Report >>18150693 >those nicknames yep, looks like flat rules still let zapdos etc through. Don't know why others thought they wouldn't
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa
Thunder(Fairy Leader)2852-8112-5667 !!AbHdZAcHCLa Wed 19 Feb 2014 21:12:15 No. 18150849 Report Quoted By:
>>18150709 Eager to see results as I can't find any definitive information online about this matter
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18150828 Are you trying to get certain legendaries allowed in the upcoming monotype tournament? Specifically a certain electric/flying type from gen 1?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 21:14:24 No. 18150886 Report Gonna try with some others and see if they go through at all
>>18150865 m-maybe
god damn it fills so many holes in the team. A decently bulky ground-immune pokemon with good recovery Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 21:16:13 No. 18150918 Report gotta eat then I'll be back
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18150886 Glad I could help then.
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18150918 If you're going to lobby to un-ban flat rules allowed legends, some of them are going to have to be banned. People will get butthurt. Even though I do think a lot of flat rules allowed legends aren't too bad at all.
Anonymous
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>>18150980 If we're planning on allowing legendaries, how are you going to differentiate between a naturally caught one and a 6IV pokegenned monster?
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18150980 I agree that there are a lot of totally fair legendary pokemon, but it might get tricky to start picking and choosing, and i dont want to fight zapdos if it means i have to fight darkrai haha
Anonymous
>>18151031 Darkrai is banned in flat anyway.
Stuff like gen 1 birds, gen 2 dogs? Their power is perfectly fine. Regis? Almost a bit too weak. Lati@s? I can see them being too powerful. Lake trio? Should be fine. Cresselia? I dunno, up in the air. Musketeers? Terrakion's really the only problematic one. Genies? All of them are too powerful I think.
As much as I'd like some of them to be usable, it just creates a bigger can of worms as to why X is allowed and why Y isn't, blah blah, whereas just "no legendaries at all" is less contrivertial
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
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>>18151216 agreed. I think the rules are working out fine as they are.
Frisbee [Flying Gym] !xGitLuxURY
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>>18151031 >>18150980 >>18151216 Yes, it would be completely within balance to allow, for example, an Articuno to participate. (Smogon rates it "Never used", for reference).
I just don't think the idea of legendary Pokemon fits with our Gym Leader concept. No Gym Leaders use Legendaries.
A big part of this thing is teambuilding, breeding from the ground up. And you can't breed legends. Which splits the legend-users into people who would bring legit but imperfect legends, and people who cheat. I realize many of you don't have a problem with cheated Pokes, but I don't think it's something we should encourage or foster in our competitions.
Legendaries were barred from use in the season 1 tourney and challenge, and I think it's been the right decision and we should continue that rule.
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18151216 This is the entire reason they've been banned thus far, plus two others:
>Inconsistant flavor-wise and inconsistant type-wise. Speaks for itself.
>People will invariably use fake genned legends with crap like event-only moves. Genned regular Pokemon are one thing, since given enough eggs, you could get what you want, eventually. Certain legends have weird in-game restrictions on their possible IVs, Hidden Power, etc., due to bizarre coding gimmicks GF uses in some generations.
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
Anonymous
i need to finish training this vullaby so i can try out it and my AV noivern
Anonymous
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Any gym leaders around?
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18151796 Noivern probably doesn't have enough attacking power to run AV effectively, but lemme know what you think of it. I sometimes used AV Heliolisk, but it has a bit more power behind it (but lower BP of attacks, somewhat).
Anonymous
>>18151874 >AV Heliolisk How'd that end up working out?
Anonymous
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>>18151874 >AV Assault Vest?
Anonymous
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>>18151874 well with AV at lvl 50 its got 170hp 140Spa 150SpDef and 192Speed, running
boomburst
flamethrower
draco meter
u turn
I figure as a lead he would be good at punching holes and maintaining momentum, im not convinced myself but if i add mandibuzz to my team and with sylveon there ill have reliable walls to switch into if i need to
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18151894 Pretty decent, actually. Balloon is nice for switching into EQ. Specs are nice with Volt Switch. The AV makes it pretty bulky. It can survive any non-stab Focus Miss and retaliate. Plus, being able to switch moves with such fantastic type coverage is great. Focus sash is probably better than AV, except that Heliolisk is more of a Water-type counter and pivot in general, and doesn't pack the raw power to make Sash as effective. It's complicated.
Actias 5300 9493 0648
Does anyone still have a male dratini with extreme speed?
Anonymous
Actias 5300 9493 0648
>>18152071 Okay, do you want anything for it or can I just put up a luvdisc?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 22:41:23 No. 18152095 Report >>18151994 I'd think parabolic charge would be pretty useful with AV, though it is still weak as shit
>>18150865 if you're still here, what do you think of electric terrain?
Stratos 3196-3681-9383)
>>18152092 luvdisk is fine.
Actias 5300 9493 0648
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>>18152107 okay, putting one up for a male unless you have a pretty ball for a female
Actias 5300 9493 0648
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18152095 Parabolic Charge is pretty weak. Even with Modest, you don't have enough bulk to needlessly take a second hit sometimes. You need power to take out Azumarill, for instance, before it Play Roughs you into next week.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18152095 incredibly niche and probably not worth it
I bred a HA electivire for a sleep immune pokemon Stratos 3196-3681-9383)
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 22:48:45 No. 18152197 Report >>18152175 his normal ability's useless anyway because who the fuck is going to use an electric move against a mono electric team?
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18152175 Nice. I think Vital Spirit will serve you well against the Grass/Bug/Normal trainers.
Actias 5300 9493 0648
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>>18152180 got it, thanks!
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 22:52:18 No. 18152243 Report >>18152175 Also electric terrain boosts electric moves by 50% if you're grounded
I'm still undecided between ampharos and manectric. They're both pretty damn good and fill roles that there isn't really much of an alternative for
Anonymous
>>18152243 i tend to favor bulky electric types myself so i would go with mega ampharos
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18152243 Pull a Frisbee and use both?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18152243 Does it really? I've never used it, but the move description doesn't mention that. Might be useable in that case if you can find a turn to get it off safely.
Anonymous
>>18152197 what is:
rotom w
lanturn
emolga
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
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just bought bravely default itll be here tomorrow, hype intensifying
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18152359 Just like Grassy Terrain boosts Grass attacks, and Misty Terrain gives all grounded Pokemon a 50% reduction in Dragon damage.
Anonymous
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>>18152365 Casual reminder that Lanturn has volt absorb
Anonymous
>>18152243 >Also electric terrain boosts electric moves by 50% if you're grounded doesn't say that on serebii or smogon.
only bulbapedo, which is awful.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18152392 Hm, could be interesting.
Anonymous
>>18152159 >Parabolic Charge is pretty weak This.
I started with Para Charge on my Heliolisk, and quickly learned that you end up not killing anything with it, replenishing worthless HP on a defensively-worthless Poke, and eating a OHKO. Thunderbolt gives you the power you need to KO things.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 19 Feb 2014 23:05:42 No. 18152465 Report >>18152286 I'm definitely gonna have a lanturn, rotom-h, and probably a galvantula, but I'm stuck as to what I could use for the other two spots
electivire for strong and reasonably fast physical attacks
eelektross for another ground immunity and some good utility (superpower, rock slide, knock off, drain punch, coil)
emolga's weak but it's got a great support movepool with things like taunt, tailwind, encore, etc
magnezone has a fuckton of resists
stunfisk's got a pretty neat movepool and is pretty specially bulky
heliolisk's also got a pretty wide movepool compared to most other fast electric types
god damn I wish I could use zapdos
>>18152365 >using electric moves when many electric pokemon have abilities that benefit from it such as lanturn's volt absorb or emolga's motor drive
>>18152396 http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-mechanics-research.3489239/page-47#post-5035210 Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18152465 i love some choice scarf magnezone, especially with sturdy, so many revenge kills
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18152515 Wouldn't specs be better for a sturdy revenge killer?
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
Anonymous
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>>18152650 i usually run it as a lead which is why i like scarf, i just prefer sturdy over magnet pull
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18152650 Scarf /can/ let you get 2 hits in instead of 1, which should out-damage a single specs boosted attack.
Anonymous
Stratos 3196-3681-9383)
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>Training Goomy >raining everywhere >hit's level 49 >battles rival still raining > just shy of 3000 exp >suddenly kalos is the driest place in the poke world >Fuck this shit
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
just realised that I will have to find some way to deal with mold breaker excadrill at some point while using mono-electric with no zapdos
Anonymous
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>>18153105 So ded
Pass out the hatching o-powers, people
Anonymous
>>18153696 Scarfed Heliolisk with surf
Anonymous
>>18153696 Kill it before it EQs you, I guess. MManectric or Electivire might be able to.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18153800 252+ SpA Heliolisk Surf vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 272-320 (75.1 - 88.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>18153807 I don't plan on using MegaMan for my mega slot, but Electivire can OHKO it with cross chop.
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18153696 or something with a focus sash that can OHKO back, look for my excadrill, because hes coming to the tourney haha
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:19:37 No. 18153889 Report Quoted By:
>>18153696 fuck I completely forgot about that
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
Anonymous
>>18153894 im actually not sure what i want to run on excadrill, scarf would let him outspeed everything, life orb would let me SD and focus sash makes him a great revenge killer, tough call
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:27:42 No. 18154094 Report >>18153829 >252+ SpA Heliolisk Surf vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 272-320 (75.1 - 88.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO how is that nigga so bulky, he's got base 65 spD
>>18153979 assuming you're mono-ground, wouldn't sand rush be better for you since I'm assuming hippowdon will be a given?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18154094 110 hp, No STAB surf
Anonymous
>>18154094 oh no im mono steel haha
Nanaca [Bug Gym] !Q20YwMj7Ck
Upcoming tourney, huh. I've been debating between sticking with my bugs or foraging into new territory with a different type. I've been debating Ice but it lacks so much in terms of coverage it's almost laughable... plus that awful Charizard/Talonflame/any fire-type weakness. I've seen enough of those things for a lifetime now. Water also sounds good seeing as how there's such a wide pool of Pokemon to pick from, but hmm... On a side note, anybody here know their Vivillon pattern? My old Vivillon's just been sitting in my box unused because of nickname autism and I'd really like to run it again; thinking of maybe comissioning a couple and finishing up my collection while I'm at it.
Anonymous
>>18154198 You taking Challengers?
Nanaca [Bug Gym] !Q20YwMj7Ck
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>>18154216 Going to watch the
lego movie with buds, probably won't be back until late. Sorry.
Evan 5370-0785-3954
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sup everyone! anyone here have a spare skrelp they could give me for breeding purposes?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:37:37 No. 18154289 Report >>18154149 dammit starting to regret researching electric so much, there are a whole bunch of things you can't do shit to without zapdos Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
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>>18154289 trust me my steel team has plenty of weaknesses, i guess we really have the same problem, i just have bronzong and skarmory as options
Steel gym is open! I might run steel again, but I could do water, dragon, flying, fighting, ground or fire. ;-;
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:40:45 No. 18154356 Report >>18145387 I don't really know how EV training in horde battles works, and I doubt my level 1 Pokemon could kill 5 level 23 others. I'm not sure if he still gets the EV's if they switch out, never really bothered to look it up :/
Alan 1779-1398-1294
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>>18154323 Can I offer a challenge?
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154323 i'll battle you.
>>18154289 heather are you taking challengers or are you just chillin?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18154289 Yeah, Zapdos would fill a lot of holes in the team, but I was assuming a lack of it when I picked the typing. Probably not as bad off as Dark, though.
Alan, then Evan to start.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:43:12 No. 18154400 Report >>18154373 past midnight here and going to bed soon, so no I'm not sorry
>>18154394 fuck you, azumarill ;__; Nanaca [Bug Gym] !Q20YwMj7Ck
>>18154289 If you want another way to resist ground and deal with Mold Breaker you could always run
Rotom-F Evan 5370-0785-3954
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>>18154400 it's all good.
>>18154397 i'm gonna go grab some taco bell real fast i should be back in 20 minutes or so if your match ends before then someone else can go before me.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:46:15 No. 18154442 Report Also, anyone have a spare everstone? I had 2 but I accidentally released the ones that were holding them right after I pulled them out of the daycare because I'm stupid as fuck
Nanaca [Bug Gym] !Q20YwMj7Ck
>>18154420 >fan >s for some reason >not f Sorry I screwed up
But yeah fantom gogogo
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
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>>18154397 we should do another steel vs steel later, or you can use whatever team but i should keep testing my steel team out. I have to say that rest/sleep talk empoleon has been huge though
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18154420 fantom literally has no way to deal damage to excadrill in a meaningful way
the most you'll do is burn it with wisp
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:48:09 No. 18154470 Report Quoted By:
>>18154420 what's it going to do back to to excadrill though?
>>18154451 f is frost
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154442 yo will i know i asked you this before but that was like two days ago i was wondering if you breed any skrelps for your poison team?
Alan 1779-1398-1294
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>>18154397 Ah shit, Mawile
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Mono psychic. THE BALLS ON THIS GUY. seriously, mad kudos.
Nanaca [Bug Gym] !Q20YwMj7Ck
>>18154468 That's all you really need to do though. Burn it, lock it into SD, poke a couple of times with Air Slash if you want and maybe flinch it, all sorts of things.
You might not be doing much damage but you've now crippled their Excadrill, so there's that too.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:51:22 No. 18154519 Report >>18154479 That's what I need the everstone for, lol. As soon as I get one I'll breed you one.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18154506 that's why they can switch out to something else that doesn't care about wisp and predicts your fantom switch-in next time
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Mono psychic. THE BALLS ON THIS GUY. seriously, mad kudos. Hermano, we could try steel vs steel
Anonymous
>fucktonne of coursework to do by sunday >need to finish mono-ice team for complete frosty satisfaction and potential leader spot how long is registration usually? props to throwing out seasons for this, makes it a lot more respectable and not just a circlejerk of sorts
>>18154536 Appreciated!
2 weeks i believe is the registration date
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 00:56:53 No. 18154609 Report >>18154506 You can deal with excadrill this way but rotom-h is much more useful in general battles
god damn why doesn't electivire get superpower when so many other things do Anonymous
>>18154553 No problem, thanks for the info there.
Followed this waaaay back before the idea was taken into this group's hands and actually put into motion.
Need to do some super research on which team members are viable still, I had a top 3 ranking mono ice in OU on showdown a year back
I see some talk of Rotom in the thread, are legendaries allowed - Or is Rotom purely considered normal and fine?
F-Rotom could prove useful if so, if the likes of Regice aren't permitted
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18154609 just use cross miss like everyone else
I think I'm going to use mowtom over the oventom in my current gym challenge team, since it hits every ground type not called excadrill harder
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18154643 Rotom can be caught in the wild and bred, it's not considered legendary. It's closer to snorlax, sudowoodo, etc.
Evan 5370-0785-3954
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>>18154643 rotom is not a legend.
Anonymous
>>18154553 It has to be a new type? (not grass, rock, flying, fighting, dark, steel, bug, fairy?)
Alan 1779-1398-1294
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>>18154553 gg, couldnt counter everything, I look foward to our rematch
>>18154643 Rotom completely fine to use
Alan, good games! Serious props for running mono psychic. Malamar is terrifying to say the least.
Try again tomorrow
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154519 i wish i had one sorry dude, i've heard you can farm them off of gravelers though just take a high level mon that knows thief and go to town until you find one.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:02:17 No. 18154708 Report >>18154647 I'd think mowtom would work better with m-manectric since the latter also has overheat. Electivire also has fire punch/flamethrower if you still need the coverage.
I'd think oventom would work better with amph though
>>18154674 Not entirely sure what you mean with that. Explain a bit more clearly?
Evan 5370-0785-3954
Anonymous
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>>18154713 Sorry, poor English and a little retard. I answered myself already.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:03:42 No. 18154731 Report >>18154696 I feel stupid. I've been searching for one with a frisk banette, wishing i had a high level pokemon that knew thief. This shouldn't take long, I'll get you one by tonight hopefully. I still have to study like fuck for my calculus test tomorrow.
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18154674 You can pick whatever type you want.
Speaking of... Think we could do a straw poll to see who's going with what type? That was interesting, last time.
Dylan 3883-6375-6863
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who's down for a 6v6?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18154708 Sure heat form hits steels pretty well, but most steels will get dicked by scarf or air balloon magnezone. Excadrill is probably the single biggest threat to mono-electric without having access to zapdos but is it worth losing a hard hitter vs every other ground type over?
Anonymous
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>>18154737 Thanks.
And good idea.
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154674 you can pick any type the tourney goes on until there is only one trainer of each type left and the top 18 fight it out for the gym leader spots.
>>18154737 That'd be kinda cool.
You gonna join for shits and giggles?
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154731 i'm in the same boat as you thats why i'm not breeding one myself, if you have shit to do then don't worry about it man.
Anonymous
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:08:17 No. 18154811 Report >>18154783 I can guarantee that if I don't have one by tonight, I'll get you one for tomorrow. You need a 5iv one since you don't have an everstone? Any nicknames or anything?
Anonymous
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:09:55 No. 18154843 Report ran some calcs
electivire can only OHKO excadrill (and even then it's only 81% chance to) if it's running adamant, but a jolly excadrill outspeeds electivire.
Jolly electivire only has a 25% chance to OHKO
>>18154731 gourgeist and trev both have frisk and can learn thief
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154811 i haven't decided on a nickname but i do want one for it.
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18154764 ...You're tempting me, Nips. Heck, the thought of anyone besting me at my own type is... tempting myself.
Gaaaaaaaaah, no, I'm supposed to be retired!
Well... If I did enter, I don't think I'd want the gym position again. At least not like I am today.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18154843 With what? Fire punch? Both cross chop and EQ are guaranteed OHKOs, jolly or adamant.
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154838 hi daniel1 can we battle?
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:12:34 No. 18154912 Report Quoted By:
>>18154845 I'm probly going to name mine "Hippocamp" or something mythological.
Anonymous
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>>18154885 i wish i could ;_;
see
>>18147370 internets gone until weekend, but in weekend i will be all day all times
:3
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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If you really want to kill an Excadrill on zapdos-less mono-elec, you can send Electivire in after it. Either you kill it with cross chop/EQ or it's scarfed, kills you, you send magnet pull air balloon magnezone in on it and curse hidden power for being a terrible mechanic
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
i'm not very experienced at team building, what should i watch out for when building mono steel? also is frisbee here?
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
anyone want to battle my steel team?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18154936 magnezone
darmanitan
excadrill
any fast fire type
Anonymous
>>18154874 Yeah, its best you not be gym leader again, but a tourney wouldn't hurt!
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
>>18154955 steel vs. steel? or sun vs steel?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:15:55 No. 18154977 Report >>18154875 Did you remember to take off the expert belt showdown's calculator puts on for you?
252+ Atk Electivire Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 180-214 (96.7 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Electivire Cross Chop vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 180-214 (96.7 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Electivire: 266-314 (176.1 - 207.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18154970 your call, i need to test out my steel team either way
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18154977 Well I plan on using expert belt on my electivire so I don't see the issue
Dylan 3883-6375-6863
>>18154955 I'll battle if you wanna
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
>>18154994 alright, i will use my fresh steel team. Keep in mind i have not worked on it a lot. Coming online now
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18155013 ill battle you after daniel, i feel like i already have you added
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:19:01 No. 18155043 Report >>18155011 Then what are you going to do about scarf exca?
Dylan 3883-6375-6863
>>18155028 nope, just checked and I dont have you
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18155043 Set up and revenge kill it with air balloon magnet pull magnezone.
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
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>>18155063 adding you now then
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:21:10 No. 18155085 Report >>18155064 that sounds awfully niche
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:23:10 No. 18155119 Report Actually, I'm looking at Dragalge now, and I might not even want to breed it until its HA comes out. I was planning on running Adaptability Assault Vest, but I guess I'll have to wait, sorry Evan.
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>>18154717 Good try Evan.
Had to be a huge dick to win.
Better luck tomorrow
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18154965 gg dude i think thats the first time i've ever lost to you, i think i need to re-submit because i haven't beaten a single gym this time around.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18155085 Sub magnezone isn't THAT niche and it does cover the worst case scenario of scarf mold breaker excadrill nicely, since it outspeeds even max speed megaman.
Evan 5370-0785-3954
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>>18155119 it's cool dude i'll have to breed one this weekend when i don't have school to worry about.
>>18155131 Yeah, lot of flying/fighting/fire in there
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:32:41 No. 18155272 Report >>18155135 god damn do we need a zapdos
at least with the "can't breed" argument you could say that it's a lot easier to get a good IV one in XY because of the guaranteed-3-IVs thing. It's something that anyone with XY could obtain, unlike any of the other legendaries
ice teams might find articuno useful as well?
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:33:51 No. 18155286 Report Anyone up for testing my poison team?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18155272 But then they'll say that X/Y Zapdos can't get heat wave
Dylan 3883-6375-6863
Anonymous
>>18155272 NO LEGNEDARIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DEAL WITH IT
if you go by
>l-let electric try zapdos then fighting obioulsy would want their terrakion and steel their heatran and dont forget about bug and their genesect.
no legends at all, ingame leaders dont use legends and this tourney wont use them because its a gym challenge.
G-Y-M.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:37:45 No. 18155355 Report >>18155328 As a person trying to be the gym leader of the only type that DOESN'T have a legendary, I say no. I still find it bullshit that fairy got a legend before poison.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18155328 obviously that means we should change it to frontier leader challenge
I kid, but god damn mold breaker excadrill pretty much singlehandedly shuts down mono-electric so hard, it's going to be difficult to find a way to deal with him when the time comes.
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion]
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:39:49 No. 18155405 Report Quoted By:
>>18155355 My bug team could use ummm.....Genesect and ummm.....oh.
Anonymous
>>18155387 im sure callum wont do shitty matchups like fire vs water or ground vs electric
r-right?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18155409 I dunno man, my local barcade organiser rigs the brackets for me so that I never have to deal with the resident El Fuerte player
Anonymous
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>>18155272 nah, arti is pretty bad overall
all it can do is toxic roost stall with sub or play to its sp.atk and use hurricane/ice beam in hail
x4 to rock is a no-no
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:40:46 No. 18155426 Report >>18155300 I would be ok with that as long as I could just use it discharge / roost / HP fire / ancientpower or toxic >>18155328 ;__;
Hermano FC: 4527-7807-1131
>>18155014 good battles daniel, was that metagross running assault vest? because it took that dark pulse like a champ, if that EQ had killed aggron i mightve survived that close combat, oh well
Anonymous
>>18155426 git gud but serioulsy, do you really want a fighting gym having cobalion, terrakion, virizion, keldeo and mega lucario?
no legends man, sorry
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:43:49 No. 18155470 Report Quoted By:
>>18155302 you fighting someone now?
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
GG hermano, i kinda feel like i didn't really deserve that win. On a different note, i have gotten aninys badge on this run, does it count as daniels badge, or do i need to challenge daniel
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion]
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:44:19 No. 18155479 Report Still no chance of a theme gym, right?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18155467 Dude, as a person who uses virizion and cobalion regularly, they aren't even in the same league as terrakion, m-luc or even keldeo. At least pick some better examples.
Anonymous
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>>18155479 >>phalloseum oh god my sides
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion]
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:45:36 No. 18155506 Report >>18155490 uhhh, Dragon gym using legendaries
Anonymous
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Someone whipping a strawpoll for types?
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:47:12 No. 18155534 Report Quoted By:
>>18155490 >Every gym spamming Arceus Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
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>>18155440 yup it has a assault vest, i kinda kinda copied kyles metagross (it is also still the badgemon i got form him). Never underestimate M-aggrons physical bulk, i have been in similiar situations several times
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18155506 Obviously there would have to be some kind of limitations other than a flat "all legendaries are good to go". But unfortunately for me and Hophap, it's not likely to happen meaning our mono-elec teams are gonna have to work super hard vs the steel and ground challengers
Anonymous
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>>18155490 yeah
3v3
you pick those 3 you mentioned and its gg
my point was to show that if we allow legends in one type, everybody would want to use legends then
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18155476 For badge purposes, daniel and I count as the same person. Especially since I retired a day early.
That's how Thunder worked it out with Mike, so that's how I'll do it.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:48:23 No. 18155558 Report >>18155467 >mega lucario is a legend I know it's a shitty justification and mostly a futile effort but at least fighting has plenty of other options
electric has like
>fast special attackers with shitty movepools >slow as shit attackers with great movepools and outside of oddballs like electivire and rotom, that's about it
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18155558 then why not use a different type?
Anonymous
>>18155558 but my point is that if one gym is allowed to use legends, all of the other types would want to do the same, and dont say no you know its true.
>random challenger HURR DURR ELECTRIC HAZ ZAPDOS
>UNFAIR >CANT WAIT TO DARK VOID THE SHIT OUT OF THEM WITH MY DARKRAI Anonymous
>>18155558 if you really think that the electric gym needs zapdos to be good because all of the other mons are, and i quote you.
>fast special attackers with shitty movepools >slow as shit attackers with great movepools You should stick to other type then where you can be good wqithout having to use legends
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:52:47 No. 18155640 Report Seriously though No poison legendary, that would just be unfair.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18155597 I think the point he's trying to make is that the presence of Zapdos pretty much makes or breaks an electric team in certain instances, Darkrai would not add much that another dark type cannot do themselves outside of loldarkvoid.
>>18155636 I'm using electric, zapdos or not. If I wanted a really good monotype to use I'd probably go with ground or water.
Anonymous
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>>18155640 thats why legends are and will be banned from the next tourney buddy
no exceptions, at all
inb4 B-BUT MUH ZAPDOS Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
i am undecided. On one hand, i love using steel, and already have a steel team bred, on the other hand i would like to use fire types and sun, because that's my favorite gimmick... difficult decisions...
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:55:08 No. 18155681 Report >>18155597 I know, and it's a great point. I mean sure I could teambuild around it but it would make it a lot better
We could always go through each trio of legends and then decide which ones are too strong and which are too weak -- I'd think any of the gen 1-4 ones would be fine. Gen 5 is where the power creep really peaked
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
Aniny !WODDIhTl5M
>>18155558 So pick a different type. GF has been giving Electric the short end of the stick for a long time, now. It's getting better for Electric, slowly, but we probably need one more generation for the missing link it needs.
Anonymous
>>18155681 no legends at all m8 dont you get it
Flying has a lot of legends, poison has none
do you think it would be fair that all the gyms spam their legends and poiosn gets out of the party
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion]
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:56:48 No. 18155724 Report Quoted By:
>>18155558 Want a competitive ready joltik?
Anonymous
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>>18155699 this
pikc another type then if you think electric mono sucks beceause you cant use zapdos
Anonymous
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:58:25 No. 18155752 Report >>18155699 >>18155593 because I won the last tournament I don't really have any intentions to win this next one and just want to have fun with it W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Currently Training on Mountain) Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:58:41 No. 18155760 Report Quoted By:
>>18155158 I have absolutely no clue why this is in a triple battle, I don't remember picking this,,, oh well, I'm doing great
Also, wasnt there supposed to be somthing like a round robin tourney for the champiions?
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18155674 i don't know how much you value the opinion of a random person on the internet but i'd like to see a nice fire gym get a seat in the top 8, i honestly considered using fire instead of dragons but i already had half the team breed so i went with dragon.
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion]
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] Thu 20 Feb 2014 01:58:58 No. 18155771 Report Quoted By:
I'd pick another team but.....bug...it calls to me
Anonymous
>>18155763 >inb4 can i use heatran Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18155752 if you don't care about winning then why are you spending so much time whining about how bad
electric is? just use the mons you like and be happy thats why i always do fuck stats.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18155824 Can't stop a man from dreaming
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
>>18155763 If i use fire, i want to use typhlosion. Make it work somehow... Anyway, i will try to build a decent fire team and then decide.
I also summon frisbee to this thread.
Evan 5370-0785-3954
>>18155783 >mega blaziken >charizardX >talonflame nigga remind me why i need heatran?
>>18155844 but heathers not a man... i think.
>>18155856 >typhlosion. mah nigga
Rena 0361-6748-0990 [Ice: Bergmite, Delibird, Cloyster]
Rena 0361-6748-0990 [Ice: Bergmite, Delibird, Cloyster] Thu 20 Feb 2014 02:05:15 No. 18155881 Report Quoted By:
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18155877 >i think clearly you need to think harder
Anonymous
>>18155877 nah, everybody on the internet is a amn until proven otherwise
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18155912 I don't think he would appreciate me posting the photos
Anonymous
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>>18155940 nathan pls, it's funnier this way, just roll with it