>>18153558>we all hate the backwards ass tier listsShowdown players maker those list, not smogon.
>they make a point of banning any other kind of playstyle that isn't sweeping basedThings banned thus far in gen 6: Blaziken, Kangaskhanite, Gengarite, and Lucarionite. Oh and funbro. All of them (except funbro) ridiculously dangerous sweepers. Call me when they ban Venusaurite.
>"Well we can't ban flamebird because... uhhh.... Rocks. right. rocks"Talonflame is a big threat but not overwhelmingly so, and is a really, really good check to HO teams but it's such a good revenge killer. It's not much of a threat to stall, defensive or balanced teams, it's literally only good against Hyper Offense which is easily the most effective playstyle this gen.
And 4x weak to stealth rocks really is a huge factor. If you're forced out by a counter and will lose half your health on switching in, that's an issue.
