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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:18:49 No.18159213 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18159253 >>18159275 >>18160631 >>18161125 >>18162977

>There is no such thing as an evil pokemon

Do you believe this /vp/?

If so, do you want there to be an evil pokemon?
Should we be able to catch it? Or should be we be left with no choice but to destroy it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:19:58 No.18159227 Report

Quoted By: >>18159254

iirc Malamar is evil or some shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:20:32 No.18159239 Report

Quoted By: >>18159295

deoxys is kinda a bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:21:24 No.18159253 Report

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>>18159213
there are no evil people, either.

evil is subjective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:21:25 No.18159254 Report

Quoted By: >>18159312

>>18159227
mewtwo has the darkest heart of all pokemon

yeah pokemon are like animals, they can't be evil, they are nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:22:39 No.18159275 Report

Quoted By: >>18159368 >>18160648

>>18159213
>do you want there to be an evil pokemon

no, although I think there's a lot of potential for shadow pokemon as antagonists.
>implying game freak will ever put effort into making an actually cool story

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:23:49 No.18159291 Report

Quoted By: >>18161962 >>18164564

All Dark pokemon are technically evil save for Absol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:24:13 No.18159295 Report

Quoted By: >>18159303 >>18159319

>>18159239
fuck off, she only attacked people because she cared for her family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:24:56 No.18159303 Report

Quoted By: >>18159504

>>18159295
>she

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:25:33 No.18159312 Report

Quoted By: >>18159384

>>18159254
What about Pokemon that are apparently as intelligent or more so as humans? Shit like Alakazam and Metagross should be capable of being evil if people are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:25:51 No.18159317 Report

Quoted By: >>18159954

Isn't Yveltal evil? I mean, "evil" is in its name.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:26:03 No.18159319 Report

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>>18159295

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:28:38 No.18159368 Report

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>>18159275
>implying game freak will ever put effort into making an actually cool story

What, you don't like battling the progressively-shittier-with-each-gen Team (____) that are hellbent on taking over the world with a couple of your retarded friends each game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:29:20 No.18159384 Report

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>>18159312
fuck if i know man but alakazam doesn't seem as smart as it's supposed to be

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:30:17 No.18159405 Report

Quoted By: >>18159488 >>18159495

>Or should be we be left with no choice but to destroy it?

When I wasn't allowed to catch this guy, I wondered if they'd actually made a pokemon you couldn't have. I was worried at first, but now I'm interested in there being some pokemon you can fight but just can't catch.

It kind of goes against the whole premise of Pokemon, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:34:42 No.18159488 Report

Quoted By: >>18159522 >>18159790

>>18159405
I always felt like, if only for the sake of improving the story a little, there should be some things you just can't catch, be they evil pokemon, ghosts, armed humans, or evil team mechs, just the pokemon alone aren't enough anymore.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:35:05 No.18159495 Report

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>>18159405
Cubone's spooky mom?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:35:47 No.18159504 Report

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>>18159303
>>18159319
>they don't have waifus

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:36:50 No.18159522 Report

Quoted By: >>18159556

>>18159488
>Mega Mega Mecha Meowth becomes a boss fight in a game

I would love this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:39:34 No.18159556 Report

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>>18159522
I wasn't paying close attention to the development of BW2, so when I saw some kind of mecha tyranitar, I got really excited, only to find out it was just part of some shitty minigame I never returned to after playing one time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:54:58 No.18159790 Report

Quoted By: >>18159821 >>18164547

>>18159488
If you do that then people will just hack the game to play as them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 05:57:07 No.18159821 Report

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>>18159790

Well I would have offered the excuse of there being no back animation for them, but I guess the jump to 3D nullifies that.

Anyway, I feel like that's fine as long as they don't take them online, which should be pretty easy to prevent.

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Flare Boss Lysandre !2DrkZFLarE Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:00:03 No.18159857 Report

Quoted By: >>18159916 >>18159998

>Evil Pokemon

I'd rather that didn't happen- as to not open up a can of weird, edgy worms.

I like to think Pokemon are nature and don't really have good / evil alignment issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:03:21 No.18159897 Report

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Good/evil is subjective. /thread

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:04:28 No.18159916 Report

Quoted By: >>18159998 >>18160071

>>18159857
>can of weird, edgy worms

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:06:15 No.18159954 Report

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>>18159317
In its defense, it only kills all life so it doesn't die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:07:30 No.18159967 Report

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>pokemon are nature

I'd actually believe this if we were still in gen 1, where the single spinoff showed the pokemon as wild animals we photographed.

Now they feel more like magic spirits more than anything, with some artificial life forms thrown in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:08:19 No.18159978 Report

Quoted By: >>18160095

Darkrai is objectively evil in the mystery dungeon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:09:26 No.18159998 Report

Quoted By: >>18160300 >>18160343 >>18164357

>>18159916
>>18159857
make it a dark/ground worm that devours children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:13:55 No.18160060 Report

Quoted By: >>18160623

Interesting thread OP 9/10 including choice of relevant pic.

I wish this moral dilemma could be introduced into the pokemon games but that wish will never come true due to the fact were discussing a game with children as the target audience. I guess pokemon XD will be as far as we ever get

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Flare Boss Lysandre !2DrkZFLarE Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:14:53 No.18160071 Report

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>>18159916
You know it would happen. I can see the OCs in my mind already.

Think of the recolors, Anon. Think of the children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:16:58 No.18160095 Report

Quoted By: >>18160324

>>18159978
Mystery Dungeon gives a personality and a story to all of the pokemon it uses, though. A pokmeon in Mystery Dungeon is different from the same pokemon in the main series, because in Mystery Dungeon, it's an individual character. I don't think Mystery Dungeon can be used for what OP's talking about in this case.

Though if Darkrai isn't evil in the main series, it has to be one of the closest pokemon to it, what with its thing being nightmares and all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:23:35 No.18160180 Report

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Spiritomb is pretty damn evil. Even in the anime, it's shown as a purely destructive pokemon that people want sealed away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:33:25 No.18160300 Report

Quoted By: >>18160716

>>18159998
>devours children
Doesn't Kyurem already fill that niche

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:34:43 No.18160324 Report

Quoted By: >>18160516

>>18160095
GtI does a good job of showing that looks can be deceiving.

Like, with Munna being an evil bitch and Hydregon being Jesus Christ, Superstar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:35:45 No.18160343 Report

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>>18159998
Spice must flow, because you need to let it settle into the meat of the children for extra flavour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:51:21 No.18160516 Report

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>>18160324
Yeah, that's why I focused on what Darkrai does, with the nightmare stuff, rather than how it looks.

But I just looked up its pokedex entries, and it seems to emphasize that it only uses its nightmares as a means of self-defense to protect its territory and such, so I guess Darkrai's not so bad as some pokemon are made out to be by the pokedex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 06:53:56 No.18160540 Report

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Sinnoh gave us an evil Togepi too.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:01:17 No.18160623 Report

Quoted By: >>18160644

>>18160060
>pokemon XD
>XD

get out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:02:23 No.18160631 Report

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>>18159213
>pokemon we can't catch

Never

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:03:19 No.18160644 Report

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>>18160623
He's talking about Gale of Darkness, you autistic manchild.

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2 Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:03:55 No.18160648 Report

Quoted By: >>18160778 >>18161487

>>18159275

I want an evil team to be a group of Pokemon who want to wipe out humanity (their leader would be a legendary/a Pokemon using transform/a similar ability to look like a human)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:10:23 No.18160716 Report

Quoted By: >>18160738 >>18161310

>>18160300
Is it actually confirmed that kyurem eat children? shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:12:33 No.18160738 Report

Quoted By: >>18160766 >>18160809

>>18160716
is it really evil if something eats kids, though?
i mean, yes, that's horrible if it has morals and such, but being evil implies intent, as in intent to do wrong. otherwise, it's simply being a predator and doing as predators do; it's a pokemon, why do human morals apply to it?

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truteal !hlnuDLeBD2 Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:15:50 No.18160766 Report

Quoted By: >>18160784

>>18160738

It's due to the fact that in canon, Pokemon have human levels of intelligence

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:17:56 No.18160778 Report

Quoted By: >>18160858

>>18160648
>Zoroark

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:18:23 No.18160784 Report

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>>18160766
intelligence =/= morality, though. not inherently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:20:02 No.18160809 Report

Quoted By: >>18160852 >>18164357

>>18160738
shit I was just pulling ideas outta my ass, but something along the lines of eating children slowly and watching the horror on the mother's face. I can't into making things evil very well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:23:48 No.18160852 Report

Quoted By: >>18160905

>>18160809
it's never been explained in such graphic detail, though. more likely is that it snatches them from the streets and takes them back to its lair and eats them. as i understand it, that is how eagles and such do it, correct? it's not as though kyurem wouldn't be able to lift some small child, even just in its jaws if you refer to those t-rex arms.

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2 Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:24:24 No.18160858 Report

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>>18160778

She was only doing that because her child was being held hostage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:31:27 No.18160905 Report

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>>18160852
guess I should've specified the ground/dark worm, but as far as I've seen, the only evidence was the old lady at Lacousta (however you spell it) telling of the legend. The eating kids part was probably added to scare the kids. The only reason I asked was to see if the anime added anything to that effect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 07:58:28 No.18161125 Report

Quoted By: >>18161183

>>18159213
>Do you believe this /vp/?
Of course not. Pokemon Colosseum was canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 08:07:17 No.18161183 Report

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>>18161125
>implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 08:27:50 No.18161310 Report

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>>18160716
We already have a balloon that tries to steal children for whatever unholy purpose it may have for them so a Pokemon who eats children wouldn't be surprising. Even if its not as ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 08:57:03 No.18161487 Report

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>>18160648
N and Ghetsis are Zoroarks you dick.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 10:27:06 No.18161962 Report

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>>18159291
implying

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Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 13:29:06 No.18162977 Report

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>>18159213

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Flare Boss Lysandre !2DrkZFLarE Thu 20 Feb 2014 16:26:21 No.18164357 Report

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>>18159998
noe.

>>18160809
double noe.

The eating children thing is not- well, at least in the way you put it- something that really fits 'into' Pokemon, if you know what I mean. With this "slowly devouring children" deal, it kind of sounds like a poorly developed vore comic.

But if we're going for a ground worm, I'd say make it something with psychic abilities- you know, to manipulate people into doing it's bidding under the guise of being some well-meaning voice or something.

BUT that's too weird, and who am I anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 16:44:11 No.18164547 Report

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>>18159790
If it's single player
Who gives a fuck really?
Let someone use their boss character in the main story not like it bothers you

If it's online
That's easy to prevent, if GF cant stop a poke designed not to be catchable being usable online or fix that in a single patch they deserve any backlash they get

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 16:46:30 No.18164564 Report

Quoted By: >>18164573

>>18159291
>dark=evil
Bwahahahahahahaahahahaaha!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Feb 2014 16:47:48 No.18164573 Report

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>>18164564
>literally the "Evil" type in Japanese.

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