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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:50:27 No.18259992 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18260021 >>18260032 >>18260061 >>18260798 >>18260974

I actually like the poison-type Pokemon designs, but apparently poison-type is objectively the worst type from what I read.

But I wanna build an all-poison team anyway.

What are the best poison-types and combinations, smogonfags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:55:19 No.18260020 Report

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Gengar, Scolipede, Nidoking, Mega Venusaur, Tentacruel, and Crobat are basically the best poison types.

Venomoth is a viable substitution for Scolipede, and Weezing can fit in there somewhere, but that's about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:55:40 No.18260021 Report

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>>18259992
toxic spikes venoshock is kind of okay I guess.
Venomoth, Gengar, Weezing, Ariados (Hazards) are some good poison types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:56:27 No.18260032 Report

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>>18259992
Man, you gotta have Gengar dude.
And like, Skuntank.
Maybe Weezing too, you even writing this down dudebro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:57:57 No.18260056 Report

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Poison type is actually a really good thing to have deffensively.
I don't think you can go mono poison due to the lack of offense, though.
Nidoking and Gengar are as good as you'll get in offensive poison types. Mega Venusaur is the best wall in the game. Tentacruel is a decent spinner and Crobat can defog. Crobat is always a good thing to have.
Skuntank can Defog too, but it's unreliable, though it has it's niche. Weezing is pretty based and your best bet at switching into Earthquakes. Roserade does work and Amoonguss will never let you down, but they're kinda reundant as Mega Venusaur is probably the best thing you get.

OP Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:58:23 No.18260058 Report

Quoted By: >>18260090 >>18260132 >>18260977

I fucking love Weezing, so I'm glad to hear he's viable. I'm a total noob when it comes to being competitive (and it's not like I'm gonna be doing much of that anyway), but what are some cool strategies to consider with these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:58:49 No.18260061 Report

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>>18259992
Poison is in the middle of bad-good. Really good defensively but shit offensively.

Try Gengar and Nidoking since they have good coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 08:59:40 No.18260068 Report

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i use a muk on my tr team

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:01:48 No.18260074 Report

Quoted By: >>18260177 >>18260226 >>18260817

>That feel when the Poison type was changed to Psychic Energy in the TCG

Grass Energy was so much more fitting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:02:14 No.18260076 Report

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Poison pokemon have great defensive stats with an alright defensive typing. If a pokemon's second typing or ability can cover its ground weakness then (eg Venusaur) it's exceptional.

Poison would be an exceptional offensive typing if Steel types weren't so common (which is why poison isn't a common type in regular metagames but dominates in monotype). It's offensive capability also went way up this gen with its hitting fairies super effectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:05:47 No.18260090 Report

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>>18260058

Well don't take my word as gospel, but I'm pretty sure that running a mixed moves specially offensive Weezing is the best bet.

IE:

Sludge Bomb
Flamethrower/Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball

And for the last slot I like to pop in Toxic, Haze, Explosion, Destiny Bond, or whatever it is you happen to be feeling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:07:59 No.18260106 Report

Quoted By: >>18260223

think a balanced team with Scolipass as win condition could work. Please don't try to pull off retarded gimmicks such as Venoshock or Infestation+spikes. Toxic Spikes are good but you don't want your strategy to be shat on by the first poison type you come across.

Scolipede can pass boost to Nidoking for a sweep. Nidoking's quite scary after a couple of boosts. You can also Quiver pass with Venomoth, it's harder to pull off though, but more rewarding.
You can build a defensive core around mega Venusaur and Weezing and you'll only have psychic type attacks to care about.

Unfortunately your best bet for setting Stealth Rocks is Nidoking (who's supposed to sweep) and Nidoqueen (exact same typing), so that's kind of a drawback.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:08:37 No.18260115 Report

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Weezing is really, really based when it comes to walling physical attackers. It laughs in the face of Garchomp. Nidoking is a great mixed attacker/fairy smasher and hell, even Drapion can wreck shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:11:20 No.18260128 Report

Quoted By: >>18260137 >>18260258

>>18260090
Weezing is actually a special wall.
It runs full physical bulk. Pain Split and Will O Wisp are essential moves. Then you use a move for coverage, depending on your team or the meta, which can be Sludge Bomb, Flamethrower or Thunderbolt, and the slat slot can be Haze, Toxic, Clear Smog or a second attacking move. Protect works too, for free burn damage and Black Sludge recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:11:36 No.18260132 Report

Quoted By: >>18260143 >>18260223

>>18260058
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SjhaNWDNFg&t=8m55s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBBkCbonPoM&t=3m30s

same battle, both filmed
provided both links so you can see how devastated the dude is to get wrecked by Weezing
enjoy anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:12:27 No.18260137 Report

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>>18260128
>special
I mean, physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:13:10 No.18260140 Report

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ice is the worst type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:13:35 No.18260143 Report

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>>18260132
btw if you embed, the time-specific links won't work
copy and paste for best results :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:14:45 No.18260149 Report

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Ekans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:17:26 No.18260166 Report

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Weezing, Gengar, Roserade, Scolipede, Nidoking, Crobat, Tentacruel, Toxicroak are all pretty cool OP

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:19:36 No.18260177 Report

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>>18260074
>tcg doesn't have every type as their own energy card

OP Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:28:34 No.18260223 Report

Quoted By: >>18260232

This is all great stuff guys, keep it coming.

>>18260106
Sorry, but what does 'win condition' mean in this context?

>>18260132
Hahaha holy shit, his shit got ruined all because he underestimated Weezing. Funny how he progressively gets more and more visibly frustrated as the match went on.

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truteal !hlnuDLeBD2 Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:28:53 No.18260226 Report

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>>18260074

this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:31:05 No.18260232 Report

Quoted By: >>18260235

>>18260223
It means that's basically the pokemon that destroys the whole opposing team. It obviously has counters, so you get your team to weaken the opposing team a bit and remove counters, then pass a boost to Nidoking and sweep. Since Nidoking has fantastic coverage, it's a perfect recipent of a baton pass.

OP Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:32:54 No.18260235 Report

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>>18260232
Gotcha. That's what I thought, but I wanted to make sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 09:38:54 No.18260258 Report

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>>18260128

Yep you're totally right, and I completely forgot about Will O Wisp - it's essential. Weezing is so underrated.

Kerbs (Bresk) 3695-0018-6282 [Pachirisu Stunfisk Galvantula]

Kerbs (Bresk) 3695-0018-6282 [Pachirisu Stunfisk Galvantula] Wed 26 Feb 2014 12:30:51 No.18260798 Report

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>>18259992
Poison type best type.
Weezing #1 bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 12:35:42 No.18260817 Report

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>>18260074
>If they have poison energys in the first generation there would be 100 fucking poison pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 12:41:46 No.18260859 Report

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Stockpile Swalot

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 12:59:25 No.18260919 Report

Quoted By: >>18260951

Is Muk worth using? Should it be defensive or offensive, and what kind of moveset should I use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 13:03:40 No.18260931 Report

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tfw no Steel/Poison type with levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 13:05:55 No.18260951 Report

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>>18260919
Offensive or defensive.
Whatever you do, make sure to abuse his +50+ chance to poison with Poison Jab or whatever.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 13:10:57 No.18260974 Report

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>>18259992
>poison-type is objectively the worst type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Feb 2014 13:11:41 No.18260977 Report

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>>18260058
Here's my set, it's a good physical wall.
Weezing @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 SDef
Bold Nature
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb / Clear Smog
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

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