Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
I wonder how many people will enter all together.
Anonymous
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>>18266215 Callum posts current registration count every once in a while. Also shows how many for each type.
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Wed 26 Feb 2014 22:53:01 No. 18266243 Report >>18266215 The tourney battles are flat rules so lets use those.
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>>18266243 Ye, forgot to change, my bad.
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Wed 26 Feb 2014 22:54:42 No. 18266266 Report Quoted By:
>>18266203 Joaco if you're here I have a Level 1
Finneon, Archen, Minccino, Munna, Cherubi, Tynamo and Deerling for you
Blake 2981-6757-4289 (Dedenne, Mawile, Floette)
Blake 2981-6757-4289 (Dedenne, Mawile, Floette) Wed 26 Feb 2014 22:56:10 No. 18266287 Report Quoted By:
>tfw soon i'll be able to start testing shit
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 22:56:29 No. 18266292 Report >>18266254 yes, flat rules, why do you keep declining
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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TOURNAMENT HYPE
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
>>18266292 My pokes aren't lvl fifty, i'll 3v3 though
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 22:58:14 No. 18266314 Report >>18266308 ...3v3 IS flat rules
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
>>18266314 Flat rule in game don't set your pokes to lvl 50 if they are under lvl 50
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:00:02 No. 18266334 Report >>18266327 and normal does?
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:09:48 No. 18266464 Report >hyper beam
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados)
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:12:01 No. 18266507 Report Quoted By:
Where my Ground-bros at?
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
>>18266464 It helps out when you know the porygon is going to faint that turn
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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Oh shit, Onyx. That was a great 3 matches. I felt I could have definitely played better, but damn am I glad I had Quick Claw on Sylveon.
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:16:38 No. 18266575 Report >Quick Claw >Swords Dancing in the face of Diggersby
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18266575 Thanks man, I totally should not have done the Swords Dance.
Quick Claw was honestly an item I put on Sylveon thinking "I've done well without an item on him, certainly this would only be beneficial."
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:19:57 No. 18266625 Report >>18266601 I don't know the build of your Sylveon, but it would probably benefit more from a Life Orb or Leftovers. But then again I've never used Sylveon so I dunno.
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>>18266575 Also, how tanky is your Diggersby?
As you noticed, I used a Pixilated Hyper Beam to burn him, do you think an unboosted Pixilated Hyper Voice would have done similar?
I don't think so, but it's worth asking the owner.
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18266625 I use Sylveon with Calm Mind / Heal Bell / Hyper Beam / Hyper Voice. HP 252 SpAtk 252.
I used Leftovers on him, thus making him with Calm Mind a really effective Special Tank and can OHKO almost anything.
But I'd rather use Leftovers on Whims. Itemclause ya know
Steel leader and future ground king standing by
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:25:42 No. 18266739 Report Thanks for the Manaphy Joaco!
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:26:30 No. 18266754 Report anyone else want to fight my electric team?
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados)
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:27:01 No. 18266766 Report Quoted By:
>>18266736 My ground nigga
>>18266739 Thank you a lot, man. You saved from hours of frustration in that shithole called the GTS.
Now it's Le Wow time
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18266754 Ye I do.
Luvdisc on GTS or add codes?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:28:06 No. 18266780 Report Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados)
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:29:56 No. 18266820 Report Quoted By:
>tfw checking the Pokedex realised I also need the Purugly line
Anonymous
Question: Is Mega Gyarados allowed on a Dark team as long as you evolve it first turn, even though it starts out Water/Flying?
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18266508 This guy gets it.
Hyper Beam and its clones can be very useful on non-choice Pokemon. IF you're faster and you're sure that IF your opponent switches you'll do good damage/not be set up on. It's like a heavily conditional Explosion.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:32:44 No. 18266885 Report >>18266675 Is Nips here? I need the Air Balloon to test my team...
Blake 2981-6757-4289 (Dedenne, Mawile, Floette)
Blake 2981-6757-4289 (Dedenne, Mawile, Floette) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:32:47 No. 18266886 Report Quoted By:
So given my shellder didn't evolve til 32. Does it need to be trained past 50 at to make up for stats or does the evolution itself put it's stats on what they should be as a Cloyster given it's full EVs
>>18266885 Yo I'll hop on.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:34:32 No. 18266920 Report >>18266905 I'm officially in lesbians with you.
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:36:03 No. 18266946 Report Quoted By:
So there's probably at least 4 normal Monos currently, I wonder if I even have a chance at being Normal Leader.
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>>18266920 Haha get in line
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18266865 Mega Gyarados is allowed on Dark teams and the turn you mega evolve it is totally up to you. Never is fine, too. BUT it MUST hold the stone.
Anonymous
Aw man I want to get in on this action but whipping up another 4 pokes for a Poison team in time would be a pain. Guess I'll just prepare for next season.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:38:35 No. 18266986 Report >>18266969 I have some spares from my poison team, and quite a few IV'd mons. I could give you some if you tell me what you need.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:38:43 No. 18266989 Report this fucking whimsicott
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:41:21 No. 18267027 Report Now someone willing to test my team?
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados)
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados) Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:42:11 No. 18267039 Report Quoted By:
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18266989 It's the most infuriating thing I've ever seen, I know.
So, I've spent the past week playing Pokémon Colosseum. Beat that, and moving on to XD.
Anonymous
So, is the HP EV branch on the super training spread/graph thing supposed to look like it doesn't hit the very corner behind the letters 'HP', IT LOOKS VERY close, as if it could pass, but I can't tell if it bends one away from the edge slightly, I did 6 hordes for 252 EVs and then did a 4 EV last via one horde.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:49:32 No. 18267129 Report >>18267056 fairies 2stronk
why lum berry on gardevoir though?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:50:32 No. 18267144 Report >>18267108 If you try using an HP bag it'll tell you something like "this pokemon's HP is already maxed out!"
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18267065 >>18267065 Colosseum was bad because the Pokemon selection was absolute garbage at key points in the game. Also the Hyper Mode was retarded as crap. Also the different Pokemon all being "most receptive" to certain purification methods, but no way to even decipher which is best besides trial and error. Also the only place you could grind was Battle Mountain.
XD was pretty fun, though, I thought. I enjoyed it a lot. Better in pretty much every way.
Anonymous
>>18266986 Muh poison bro! That would be awesome. I don't know, I'm testing out a full Poison team in Showdown Monotype right now, I only have a Gengar and Scolipede on my X. I'll take anything but I was thinking Mega Venusaur over Mega Gengar for dat tanky coverage. A Toxicroak/Skunktank would be good. Most Poison types aren't that good but I could make a Tentacruel, Nidoking, Weezing, Crobat, Venomoth or anything work. The problem is so many builds on Poison types require Black Sludge/Leftovers
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18267129 I didn't want to give it anything else that one of my other mons might do better with.
Besides, it comes it handy. I'm also really paranoid of people who use Sleep spells. I can Will-O-Wisp, get put to sleep, Wake up, Protect, bam. 2 turns the enemy got burned.
I don't know what else I'd use honestly lol.
Good games though!
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:54:36 No. 18267195 Report
>>18267159 I actually beat Mt. Battle in Colosseum about an hour ago. Had the johto dogs, espeon metagross and ttar. That's really all the good Mons in that game.
XDs beginning is so insufferable. If I can get past it, the rest of the game will be fine. R-right?
>>18267163 I have a croagunk if needed. 5ivs
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] (Flying:Pidgey/Hoothoot/Tropius) {1808} [Bug]
Actias 5300 9493 0648 [Former Internet Champion] (Flying:Pidgey/Hoothoot/Tropius) {1808} [Bug] Wed 26 Feb 2014 23:56:38 No. 18267225 Report Quoted By:
I am excited! Hopefully I won't get knocked out of the first round by Heather this time!
Anonymous
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>>18267163 >>18266986 I'll trade you my leftovers if you have anything decent. I had to take a hiatus from Pokemon due to work but I think I still have:
4 IV Rotoms
4 IV Scrappy Adamant Kangaskhans
4 IV Toxic Spikes/Spikes Adamant Venipedes
4 IV Compoundeyes Timid Joltiks
3 IV Timid Gastlys
3 IV Rock Blast Jolly Shellders
3 IV Stealth Rock/Leech Seed Relaxed Ferroseeds
3 IV Dragon Dance/Zen Headbutt Scraggys
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18267195 What are they banned or something?
Cuz if not.. legitimate paranoia. :<
Anonymous
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>>18267211 The only decent trade I have for that are 4 IV Rotoms and 4 IV Toxic Spikes/Spikes Adamant Venipedes if you want.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:00:57 No. 18267274 Report Good game, Joaco. That Garchomp really messes me up...
>>18267163 I have spares of each of those, except Venomoth. I'll take a Scraggy if you're giving them away, just tell me which ones you want.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:01:55 No. 18267290 Report >>18267264 nah I just thought you calling them spells was funny
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18267290 It's voodoo magic, yo.
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18267211 They give you a lot of weak ones at the very start, but you can catch wild Pokemon later and they start piling on the shadow pokemon like no tomorrow, so there's plenty to choose from. By the end of the game, there's all kinds of goodies! Plus the move tutors help. Mt. Battle isn't nearly as hardcore in XD, but it's still cool. You don't have to start from the bottom up every time anymore!
>>18267308 Thats actually half decent. The in-game sister you have to lug around needs to have cement shoes and get chucked off gateon port
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados)
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:07:08 No. 18267371 Report Quoted By:
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
HELLO /vp/!!! how is everyone tonight?
>>18267290 heather are you available for a battle? this will be make or break for me until after the tournament.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:09:18 No. 18267421 Report Quoted By:
>>18267163 Also you need to give me your name and friend code...
Anyone up for a test match?
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18267355 I liked her a lot more than the hideous sub-human that followed you nonstop in Colosseum. Plus in XD she stops following you at some point.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:13:36 No. 18267490 Report >>18267307 you do know all electric pokemon are immune to paralysis in gen 6, right?
Anonymous
>>18267144 ''It's EVs won't go any higher!''
is what I get for trying any bag.
I don't think it specifies, the only outcome is I missed a 6th horde battle meaning im at 250 HP over 252HP, and giving 6ATK instead of 4ATK
i'll check its max stats at 50 when I get there, then reset if need
>>18267457 Thank god for that. Both her and the one from Colosseum were mistakes.
POISON ANON!
your croagunk is ready to go to its new home! I need your fc!
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:17:42 No. 18267551 Report Quoted By:
Just tested out my Ghosts on a random guy I'd WT with
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:18:35 No. 18267566 Report >>18267410 sorry, going to bed right after this
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:19:21 No. 18267575 Report Anyone for testing my team?
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:23:52 No. 18267633 Report Quoted By:
>>18267623 git online nigga
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18267566 I swear, you made changes to your team JUST FOR ME those rematches lol.
Thanks for reminding me I need a hard counter to those damn Steel Sweepers.
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18267575 No wifi right now bro
Getting my car worked on atm
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:26:13 No. 18267674 Report >>18267650 I think I'm liking dual screens magnezone better than dual screens rotom-n -- the extra steel coverage and resistances helps a lot as that showed!
thanks for the practice battes, Grvio!
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18267650 Mind battling me a few times?
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18267674 Anytime, Heather. I'll want that 3rd round next time!
Duel Screen Magnezone is awesome, I used it for my Steel Team back in the day. Just gotta watch those OHKO checks.
>>18267678 If you don't mind me taking a short break first. I just battled Heather 6 times and I don't use Sweepers really lol.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:28:49 No. 18267713 Report >>18267509 yeah that means its EV is maxed out in that stat
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18267274 Well that other guy says he has a 5 IV Croagunk, would you be able to trade me a Bulbasaur, Tentacool, and Zubat/Nidoran male? Here's my code. I just realized I'll have to add you now and trade you in a bit if you're on. Otherwise no worries.
>>18267211 I'll add you, too. Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
Anonymous
So what's the rules on Evasion?
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:30:11 No. 18267732 Report >>18267716 sure, after this ill add you and trade you the stuff. I'll take one of your scraggys, the others can be shitmons.
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
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>>18267727 I don't think there are any. Double team to your heart's content.
>>18267716 Added. You need a name on croagunk?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:31:34 No. 18267748 Report Quoted By:
>>18267727 the fact that you can see it coming and be prepared for it
that's why it's best 2 out of 3 and battle videos are a thing
mock battle is a fantastic feature -- use it with a frisker and some imposter dittoes to completely scout your opponents beforehand
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18267545 Sorry man, I just realized the wifi I'm on won't let me connect a DS. I'll be home in like 20 minutes if you're still around or maybe I'll see you online, otherwise thanks for the offer.
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
>>18267727 theres no rules against it but there wasn''t last time either and it didn't work.
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:32:40 No. 18267768 Report Quoted By:
>>18267727 Nah there's no rules against evasion, but I think most people decide not to rely on RNG abuse
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>>18267753 I'll be here. Just post when you're back
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:36:03 No. 18267825 Report >>18267727 SHIT
FUCK
EVAN, HE'S ONTO ME
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18267747 I think we both know Battletoad is the only acceptable answer. Alternatively, Kermit. Headed home now, I'm sorry I'm such a dumbass!
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:36:47 No. 18267836 Report More testing or MH. I guess MH if no one here wants to help me test.
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
So what song do you guys pick from the online battle selection?
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18267758 Yeah, the Ghost person I knocked out of the tournament last time used Minimize Chandelure. They weren't lucky enough. But, they also were using a special attacking Sableye so... Yeah. Evasion sucks balls when it works, but when it fails, your opponent is just going to steamroll you.
>>18267833 I'm all over it. Its all good
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:38:41 No. 18267861 Report Quoted By:
>>18267836 Scratch that, DS needs charging and I'm to lazy to move my charger.
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
>>18267825 FUCK MAN!
lets get out of here before he figures out that your venusaur stalls!
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>>18267836 We should have a rematch in a bit.
I'm still enjoying a short break before I battle Nathan though, however I think it'd be fun.
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
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>>18267863 me and my big mouth
Anonymous
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>>18267863 >tfw you were going to use evasion muk and mega venusaur on your mono poison WIP >tfw you thought you were unique Back to the old drawing board
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18267847 For all my gym battles, I go for music 4 or 5 (the gym themes). During the tournament, I'd always play music 8 to get myself hyped up (kalos legendary theme).
I love music 5, though. I've been stricking with that.
Anonymous
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>>18267713 It's coo', I used a reset back, saved before of course.
It tells you how many EV's were erased and it read 252/252/6 which is what was desired initially
>tfw 4 members done >Still dont know if the likes of mamoswine/lapras/froslass/rotom-f will make it I mean, some will, but which...?!
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>>18267905 I agree with 8, probably my next favorite next to the Elite 4 Music 10.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:44:41 No. 18267945 Report Quoted By:
>>18267847 usually 7, then 8, then if there's a third match, 11
5 is good too
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18267718 You still here?
Say something before I add you so we can battle yo.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
I never cared for playing any of the Team Flare music, because I never view any of you as my enemy. If I played the Team Flare music all the time, I'd feel like we were against each other, when really we're fighting together, not with each other.
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>Nathan and Heather have the same team
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:53:48 No. 18268120 Report haiiii
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:54:50 No. 18268140 Report GG Evan! You had me scared to bring out Muk again... I guess he's only good for a game one :/
Anonymous
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 00:58:23 No. 18268194 Report Quoted By:
I just listen to youtube wen fighting...
I really enjoy listening to this when I'm fighting someone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1Krfww5eE Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
>>18268140 GG
it also depends what you're facing if i had brought out garchomp at the beginning then muk would have been dead.
i'm having trouble figuring out what items to put on my pokemon, i've dropped the scarf off of dragonite but i don't know what to replace it with i also can't figure out what to scarf now.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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all dis bad luck
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:02:14 No. 18268243 Report >>18268213 Do you just not want to follow the leaer and put a weakness policy on it? That's probably the best thing to give it.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:03:18 No. 18268252 Report >>18268213 dragonite goes well with WP or a lum berry
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18268243 Unless you see a Cinccino. Cinccino laughs at WP Dragonite.
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
>>18268243 >>18268252 i'd rather not grind for it, but i'm not really coming up with any better options.
Anonymous
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>>18268275 BP is easy to grind
if you can't be assed to fight anything, go to the battle institute and forfeit every match. You still get 5BP at the end of it (whereas if you do well there, you'll get around 12-14BP)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:07:17 No. 18268303 Report >>18268275 just do what I do
beg on here until someone gives it to you
Just kidding
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:12:48 No. 18268387 Report Anonymous
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:14:49 No. 18268422 Report daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:16:44 No. 18268447 Report Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:17:44 No. 18268466 Report Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados)
Joaco 4270-1507-2013 Poison (Drapion/Cascoon/Ariados) Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:17:59 No. 18268472 Report daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:18:31 No. 18268486 Report Quoted By:
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:19:33 No. 18268508 Report who wants sum multis
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18268508 I want a gym battle!!
And also a mono type battle, with whoever.
And also a phanpy
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:22:02 No. 18268551 Report >>18268546 OH YES
TIM IS BACK
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
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>>18268508 I would love sum multis
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18268551 Hey Daniel!
Only got yours and frisbee's badge to get, then to challenge patty.
Do you just want to start a new best of 3? Or do you want to finish our last battle, and if I win so be it and if i lose I rechallenge you?
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:25:10 No. 18268602 Report >>18268589 lets start over i want to battle
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
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>>18268602 All good with me.
Lets do it!
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
anyone want a monotype battle?
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
Good games Grvio, there's some nasty surprises on your team, I think most of those battles hinged on who predicted better with sucker punch/substitute shenanigans.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:28:15 No. 18268655 Report >>18268647 we can do multis with our monos later
:3
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
Anonymous
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>>18268655 >monotype multis I hope there'll be room for one more at some point. That could be interesting.
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
Damn Nathan, I thought we were practicing, not exploiting my weakness so you can just win for free.
Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
43 signed up so far with numbers as so:
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:30:38 No. 18268684 Report Quoted By:
>battle isnt starting
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18268649 >>18268670 And I mean that in a teaching way.
You lead with your Electric Spider EVERY game. Don't let yourself be so predictable.
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
>>18268673 That's less normals than I thought there was going to be.
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18268673 Excellent....so I have either 4 or 2 opponents.
Or 1.
Fuck, i should go flying
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18268673 The Fighting, Flying, Ice, and Dragon people need to come out of hiding.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18268670 >>18268686 Why would I NOT bring Magnezone against a fairies team? It's not practice if I'm handicapping myself. I expect both players to try their best to win, even in practice. And Galvantula has good tools versus a decent amount of your team. It bypasses Whimsicott's sub, 2hkos your most powerful sweeper and can volt switch out if necessary. Sure didn't stop it from doing what I wanted it to do, which is scare you off from leading with Whimsicott and hiding behind a sub all day.
Anonymous
>>18268701 I just signed up for flying, so that'd make 2.
I'm surprised there's not more fighting or dragons, though.
Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
>>18268692 A bunch of the people who hang round the threads are going normal but they haven't submitted yet.
Some people are still in the testing phase
>>18268694 Im ground too, buddy. Joaco is too I think
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
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>>18268721 I might not even go ground....I might go
fire Anonymous
>>18268717 >all those niggers choosing normal because MUH BROKEN MEGA MOM XD truly horrifying
Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:35:06 No. 18268751 Report tim let me send the invitation
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
>>18268712 Well because I already discussed prior that Heather's Magnezone was just murdering my team and I needed to adjust my team so it wouldn't repeat in the future.
Instead, I battled you and you used it primarily against me. I knew I'd end up losing every time once you caught on. I figured you'd try a different game though, since I did too every match.
Hence the term "practicing."
Ah well, doesn't matter. You're definitely right about the spider scaring Whims away. I learned the hard way with Heather of that Bug Buzz.
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
>>18268736 Why would anyone choose a type for only one pokemon?
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18267732 >>18267852 OK I'm back home and online. My in-game name is the same.
FrisPope, would you be able to trade me a Grimer instead of that Zubat/Nidoran male? Muk was my jam back in Blue.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:36:00 No. 18268772 Report Quoted By:
>>18268736 just burn her, she's not nearly as strong after that
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>>18268714 I was considering Fighting, but I also thought it'd be popular and went with Fairy since I really enjoy using muh Sylveon.
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
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>>18268751 Alright....whenever you're ready
Alec (2535-3620-7273)
>>18268673 I just realized I'm the only one entered in Flying as a complete nobody.
H-hopefully, nobody else enters...
Anonymous
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:39:11 No. 18268815 Report >>18268673 So that means I've got at least 3 other people competing for normal leader as well. Gonna be a tough fight, maybe. Don't know how good the other twos monos are, but I know Aniny's is solid.
Anonymous
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>>18268798 nah, suddenly everybody will choose the most unused types because they are hipsters
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18268758 I wasn't here when you were battling Heather, so I didn't read up in the thread. And don't complain at me for bringing my best bet at beating a team of fairies. You need to learn how to deal with that, as much as I need to learn how to deal with mold breaker excadrill with my own team. If you want to go and adjust your team that's great because that means you're learning to cover your monotype's weaknesses. It's a learning process for all of us.
I still need to figure out how I'm going to deal with a ground team.
Anonymous
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>>18268769 because that type got the most broken mega
thats why
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:41:19 No. 18268854 Report tim pls accept
Alec 4012-4120-1149
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>>18268826 Thanks a bunch, Croagunk is the best.
Alec (2535-3620-7273)
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>>18268805 I-it's okay anon.
Goddammit, I probably should have read the entire thread before I posted that.
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18268854 You're not inviting me?
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:42:41 No. 18268868 Report >>18268815 tavo's was pretty awful swellow, miltank, porygon2 and porygon-z with hyper beam, don't remember the rest 3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:44:03 No. 18268887 Report Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
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>>18268887 I logged out and back in...better
Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
>>18268769 I did when I chose Rock.
Only did it because of my shiny Tyrantrum.
Kind of different though.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:47:04 No. 18268934 Report >>18268878 there's still plenty of time to change! the porygons weren't a bad choice but why miltank and swellow?
if you want a good bird, staraptor hits like an absolute truck and braviary is more bulky and has access to rock slide
heliolisk is a good special attacker with many many coverage options
diggersby is a rape train and has fantastic coverage with EQ, return, and wild charge
pyroar is very useful for soaking up any wows thrown at your team and can throw out wows of its own
coverage and resistances are very important in 3v3 monotype!
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18268140 I added you, ready to trade. Do you have a Grimer instead of Zubat/Nidoran Male? If not it's fine, Muk was just one of my favourites when I was a kid, used him to beat the Elite Four my first time.
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
>>18268934 miltank is a fucking boss and swellow hits like a truck, only to get stopped by literally any rock or steel type
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
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>>18268930 couldn't you have also picked dragon for that?
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
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>>18268934 >implying swellow isn't a monster I have been thinking about replacing miltank though
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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Who FAIRIES up in here?I wish there was more male Sylveon fanart, shiny version too.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:51:14 No. 18268982 Report >>18268944 >swellow hits like a truck, only to get stopped by literally any rock or steel type and braviary and staraptor aren't stopped by either of those, your point?
>miltank is a fucking boss not an argument
just giving some advice is all, isn't that the point of practice battles? I probably should've worded it nicer than "is terrible", and I apologise for that
sableye completely walls most of that team, which is the problem
Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
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>>18268982 Guts Swellow hits as hard as Staraptor does but has 25 more base speed, allowing it to run a non-choice set instead.
Miltank is a pretty bulky normal with good recovery and gets two fantastic abilities in thick fat or scrappy, as well as learning support moves like thunder wave and heal bell.
Yeah there are better choices if you want to minmax but they're far from unuseable.
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:56:41 No. 18269057 Report >>18268982 If Swellow can hit Sableye with a Brave Bird it won't be a problem for long.
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:58:01 No. 18269074 Report Nathan - 2878-9714-5603
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6
Heather 2895-6998-6566 [Dark Leader] (Safari: Boldore, Magcargo, Shuckle) !hoPPiPzMj6 Thu 27 Feb 2014 01:59:03 No. 18269088 Report Quoted By:
>>18269077 You win, I should've gone to bed hours ago
I guess it makes for a good status absorber/punisher then!
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>>18269077 >fastest retort 2k14 Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18268466 >>18268937 I don't see you online, you still there?
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:03:16 No. 18269136 Report Quoted By:
>>18269127 Sorry, I had some other things to attend to that didn't involve porn. I'll be right online.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:04:18 No. 18269152 Report >>18269127 I'm starting to think that you just want to build my team......
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:07:19 No. 18269191 Report Quoted By:
>>18269127 Sending the trade invite
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:07:49 No. 18269199 Report gg tim
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18269199 I'll beat you tomorrow!!
That gourgeist is bulkier than I predicted!!
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:09:29 No. 18269217 Report now who wants monotype multis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
Quoted By:
>>18269205 Mono battles anyone????
Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:12:33 No. 18269257 Report W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:12:38 No. 18269259 Report Quoted By:
>>18269217 I'm in since Alec isn't responding
Evan the Dragon Master 5370-0785-3954
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>>18269217 i wanna fite the faries.
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18269152 Oh shit you're on to me! Nah, actually I only just realized Showdown had a Monotype format yesterday so I slapped together a team. I was going to start a monotype thread today and I stumbled across this thread. The team I was playing around with was Gengar, Tentacruel, Venusaur, Crobat, Toxicroak and Nidoking but I forgot Muk isn't banned in this and minus the Toxicroak that's what I used to run as a kid in Blue. I kinda want to see if I can trade for a Venomoth/Arbok/Weezing but it's hard to work a viable Poison team since most need Black Sludge/Leftovers.
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18269257 I got kicked out....
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:14:51 No. 18269309 Report >>18269279 welp
i will send an oipen invite
the fastest ones will get in
so get ready people
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18269269 For the same reason I'm also putting in Scolipede since he isn't banned, his movepool is great compared to most Poison types.
Anonymous
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>>18269309 my stylus is ready
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:17:05 No. 18269343 Report >>18269321 .......I'm sending multiple invites.......
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:17:16 No. 18269345 Report Quoted By:
wat
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:19:38 No. 18269377 Report >open invite >kate gets in
Anonymous
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18269343 Sorry, I'm not getting any of them. Are you Will? that's the only person it shows online
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:20:35 No. 18269388 Report >>18269269 If you need a Venomoth or a Weezing I can get you one
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:20:40 No. 18269391 Report daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:20:56 No. 18269398 Report Quoted By:
>>18269379 au contraire
:3
sorry i didnt brough pikas
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18269391 Sent you an invite.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:23:17 No. 18269440 Report >mono steel and rock vs mono flying and fairy
Anonymous
>>18269440 We're not at that much of a disadvantage. Get the TTar down and watch some magic.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:24:01 No. 18269454 Report Quoted By:
>>18269416 Not getting anything from you. Send one again.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:24:55 No. 18269466 Report Quoted By:
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18269391 Hm so I guess we're not seeing each other's invites.
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18268944 Miltank's not terrible. It's only terrible is you try to make it into a Blissey, like Smogon tells you to. No, rather, with max Defense it makes a fine physical version of Blissey. Thought it is weaker, all 3 of its abilities are amazing: Scrappy allows you to hit everything in the game with just Body Slam; Sap Sipper makes it immune to Leech Seed and Sleep Powder/Grass attacks; Thick Fat helps you take powerful Ice Beams and Flare Blitzes like a champ. It's a great bulky pivot/cleric and it does things no other Normal can boast in one package.
Swellow is an interesting case. Like Staraptor, it dies pretty much to a single strong attack. However, like Staraptor, it also hits like a truck, albiet when statused. Facade, Brave Bird, Steel Wing are great, and even an uninvested Boomburst has great utility in attacking behind Substitute. It's also extremely fast, so you don't need to Scarf it. The biggest issue is that it can't quite do it all on its own. Running two birds on one team can be a great strategy, though.
Don't worry, Tavo. I know you can make a fantastic Normal team.
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>>18269440 Give me some time.
I'm working a Gen6 Fairy that will put and end those blasted Steel Types.
MARK MY WORDS!!!
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>>18269479 Restart your game.
Will too.
Multis full?
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:30:03 No. 18269544 Report fuck i misclicked i was going for tyranitar
Alec 4012-4120-1149
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>>18269391 Thanks a lot, you made muh dreams possible. I probably don't stand a ghost of a chance but it'll be fun battling.
Anonymous
>>18269544 Either way we won. Valour has no brakes.
Seba 4983-6116-6255
hi everyone
Anonymous
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>>18269440 Mono-Steel vs Mono-Ice is way, way worse. Mamoswine has to carry the whole team.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:31:59 No. 18269561 Report Quoted By:
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
i'm sorry, i'm just shit at multis
Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
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>>18269558 Good luck!
It's a lot of fun regardless of how you do.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:33:23 No. 18269575 Report Quoted By:
>>18269566 no pls, the point of multis is having funzies
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:33:32 No. 18269579 Report Quoted By:
Anonymous
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>>18269566 Then only mistake I saw you make was shooting the ice beam at whimsi instead of staraptor. Because of that, Valour got to continue on his killing spree.
You did pretty well besides that.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:34:26 No. 18269587 Report Quoted By:
>>18269573 sorry im doing multis with Daniel, Callum and
Kate :3 callum dont shell smash
Seba 4983-6116-6255
hi everyone
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:37:19 No. 18269618 Report hi everyone
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>18269619 see
>>18268736 and prove me wrong
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>>18269606 You should be OK time wise. 8 days is decent time to breed or gen a team
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:38:45 No. 18269643 Report Quoted By:
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18269388 A Venomoth would be great, the only things I can offer in return is a 4 IV Toxic Spikes/Spikes Adamant Venipede or 4 IV Rotom though.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:41:44 No. 18269675 Report Quoted By:
>mfw trick room actually helped aerodactyl
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18269606 Sup seba? Thanks for the compliment. Unfortunately, Normal is extremely popular this time, so you have a LOT of competition if they all show up. Plus, you have to potentially face Onyx and I. That's gonna take some balls. Hope it goes well with you!
I'd trade you some breeding leftovers, but at my uncle's house I have no wifi. However, I could trade you a few 5IV Normals tomorrow if you want, so you won't have to take days breeding everything. Your choice.
Anonymous
>>18269656 That's okay I don't need anything in return really
you want it's HA?
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:45:03 No. 18269720 Report >>18269630 >Implying I don't want to use mono normal to use my Dubstep Bird and Duck Tank Mega Milf is just a bonus.
Alec 4012-4120-1149
>>18269705 Sure, adding you.
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18269619 In the last tournament, there were only 2 people for Normal: Matthew and myself.
It's starting to worry me that it's possibly the most popular type this time around... I mean seriously. It's gonna make some people pissed off.
Anonymous
>>18269762 >inb4 i-its my favorite type fucking bulltshit, they are just pikcing the normal type for their broken ass kangaroo
Anonymous
>>18269760 Cool, will you still be here in 30 minutes or so?
Will try and get you a 5IV one
Seba 4983-6116-6255
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>>18269690 Yes that'd be great!!
And well, having to face you and Onyx sounds like a fun challenge, I'll do my best. I've got one question though: Do we have to fight against our own type in the beginning of the tourney, unlike the previous one?
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:52:19 No. 18269808 Report Quoted By:
>>18269778 >Implying Normal hasn't been my favorite type since Gen 4 3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
>>18269778 >tfw it is your favourite type Kazakhstan isn't why everyone chose normal
Grvio [X] 1864 - 9351 - 4506
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>>18269720 I laughed so hard at wubwub birds name.
Good one.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:52:42 No. 18269818 Report Quoted By:
>mfw its now a 3v3 match
Alec 4012-4120-1149
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>>18269781 Yes I can wait, thanks!
Anonymous
>>18269809 Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
i want to see ONE normal mono that doesnt use that kangaroo
ONE
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:54:48 No. 18269842 Report Quoted By:
>swords sance
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:54:49 No. 18269843 Report >>18268673 I just couldn't help but put them in order of popularity.
Fairy 4
Bug 4
Water 4
Ground 4
Electric 4
Normal 3
Rock 3
Dark 3
Fire 2
Grass 2
Poison 2
Psychic 2
Ghost 2
Steel 2
Fighting 1
Flying 1
Ice 1
Dragon 1
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
>>18269829 >not bringing a mega-evo If there was another mega for normal, I would bring it
Clinton: 4468-1422-4591
>tfw priority fucks your Omastar so bad
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:56:16 No. 18269866 Report >>18269846 not trying to defend that guy but me and stratos didnt brought any megas in the past tourney.
its not a requeriment.
Anonymous
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>>18269864 Archeops can work as a pretty solid mixed attacker.
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:57:22 No. 18269882 Report Quoted By:
>>18269866 lel
i mean shadowman i was thinking of stratos because of the low ammount of dragons
Callum [Rock Leader] 4098-2678-4492
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>>18269864 Gotta be smart about it.
I ran Probopass and Omastar during the first tournament.
Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
i'm so sorry daniel, i clicked swords dance by accident
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18269778 Mega Kanga is, quite simply, the best Normal-type. It's bulkier than any other powerful attacker with anywhere close to its speed. It has the best physical attacking movepool in the entire type! It's ability is incredible.
It's somewhat of a trap: you want to use it to give yourself a chance against certain threats, but it's so good that it's easy to rely on it like a crutch.
It really is one of only a small handfull of Normals that is capable of taking on Dragons, however, which otherwise muscle through a type with no resists. I tried to make Wigglytuff work last time... It's not good enough.
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Thu 27 Feb 2014 02:58:46 No. 18269903 Report >>18269846 Ghost has Gengar and Banette to choose from
I HATE Gengar so he's a no, and Banette is... limited to say the least
So I said fuck it and didn't use any
Anonymous
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>>18269902 yeah thats why its so broken!
i dont see a problem allowing 600 legendaries too because they have great movepoools like ytour kangaroo!
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:00:54 No. 18269938 Report >>18269903 >I HATE Gengar I... I don't understand, you're not making any sense... Do we need to get you back on the pills?
Srsly doe
Gengar been da bes sins jen wun
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:01:40 No. 18269952 Report Quoted By:
>>18269901 dont worry bby i had fun
Seba 4983-6116-6255
Not having a Mega in the team is a disadvantage, this is why I thought of M-Kang, but if people is getting this mad at it, I won't even breed one (I don't even like it). there are many options for a Monotype Normal, being that the real reason I chose this type
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir)
Ironseraph (IGN: Morgana) 2406 6554 4269 (Parasect, Beautifly, Pinsir) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:03:13 No. 18269970 Report Quoted By:
>>18269938 I've never liked his design, even in Gen I
Haunter's okay though
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:03:33 No. 18269974 Report >>18269955 I'd highly suggest breeding one. It's only a superhuge threat when it has PuP and seismic toss, and most of the people that complain about it are just butthurt that their M-Gengar's can't survive a Milf Sucker Punch.
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:03:50 No. 18269975 Report >>18269955 Feel free to use it, it's just one retard who probably got shit on by Kangaskhan.
Anonymous
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>>18269955 this so much
i dont see a problem using another normals, slaking, blissey, porygon 2,snorlax. but oh well
those normal trainers are so bad they think they need their broken ass shit mega mom in order to win.
Alec 4012-4120-1149
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>>18269843 >not organizing them alphabetically, too Get on my autism, bro.
The popularity of Bug, Ground and Electric excites me.
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
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>>18269974 Those moves are banned for this tournament
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18269829 I'd be willing to forgo Kanga.
I haven't needed it in the past, and I don't need it now. It just makes teambuilding easier.
I'm not trying to be gym leader again this time, anyway.
Challenge accepted. Inb4 I go to the finals anyway.
Anonymous
>>18269995 >i dont need mega kanga i like your style
not depending on that broken shit to excel the true meaning of the normal type will make you a great user of it.
Magcarbro (IGN: Topple) 3695-0579-1062 (Excadrill, Ferroseed, Fortress)
Magcarbro (IGN: Topple) 3695-0579-1062 (Excadrill, Ferroseed, Fortress) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:07:22 No. 18270028 Report Quoted By:
This sounds fun. Not sure if I will join this time around, but I will definitely have to consider making a monotype team to try and join one of these.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:07:24 No. 18270029 Report >>18269995 I run a M-Gengar as an option on my team, but I haven't even used him on half of my battles.
Anonymous
>>18269975 >look at me, i need my broken mega to win, i-its not like i suck, is just that without mega kangaskhan i will get rekt, castfrom a shit xD Alec (2535-3620-7273)
>>18270041 The other option is to--gasp--actually get good at the game rather than bitch about it.
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:09:33 No. 18270066 Report >>18270041 1v1 me faget :^)
Anonymous
>tfw favorite type is ice >tfw favorite pokemon is base Kyurem >I will never win a monotype battle OR be able to use my bro
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:10:17 No. 18270081 Report >>18270041 >implying is that hard to beat it granbull shits on it
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:10:31 No. 18270086 Report Quoted By:
>>18270063 Alec, quit making up stories
everyone know git gud is only legend
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
>>18270029 MGengar without Perish Song is nothing compared to even a nerfed MKanga. It's good, but there is no comparison.
Anonymous
>>18270081 -1 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 226-267 (58.8 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
without intimidate
252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 339-400 (88.2 - 104.1%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
whereas granbull...
252+ Atk Granbull Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Kangaskhan: 272-320 (65.7 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
And he's outsped.
Anonymous
>>18270066 no thanks, i dont want to fight a faggot that depends on that kangaroo to win
>>18270063 >le git gud maymay xD anybody that uses that broken ass sht mega is going to rek shit without being good, example
>>18270066 i remeber when this faggot ragequited with his fighting team, now that he has that kangaroo he thinks he is the shit
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18270096 Anyone wanna 1v1 mono type?
Aniny?
Anyone?
Alec the Toxic Player 4012-4120-1149
>>18270063 >>18270081 Oh shit two Alecs, this is confusing. Guess I'll change my name. What are the chances, it's such a rare name.
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:14:31 No. 18270149 Report >>18270135 but... but the other oe is daniel o.o
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk
Onyx 3480-3093-7120 [Fighting Gym] !rSq1I9fmDk Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:14:47 No. 18270156 Report Quoted By:
>>18270122 >Implying I need Kangaskhan to rekt you But thanks for bumping the thread, we need a new one.
Anonymous
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>>18270081 see
>>18270119 thats how broken that shit is, if you use mono fairy you are screwed too
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw
daniel - 0619 4281 7615 (Grass gym) !pikaWbWnAw Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:15:50 No. 18270174 Report >>18270149 >implying my real name isnt Alecs lol kidding, but why did u quoted me Daniel - 5000-2916-3199
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>>18270135 are you trying to hint at something?
Tim 1478-4207-2056 [Original Champion]
>>18270150 REgistered and waiting
Alec the Toxic Player 4012-4120-1149
>>18270012 Kanga was one of my favourites as a kid but she played like a potato competitively. I was so happy when she got a mega but I had to shelve her because people call me such awful things!
Anonymous
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>>18270080 >tfw legit shiny modest kyurem and can't use it ever I know your feel
Alec (2535-3620-7273)
>>18270122 I actually meant it legitimately. I've trounced over Mega Khan teams with shit like Jumpluff and Tyrantrum. Admittedly, it was VGC, but my point still stands.
Alec the Toxic Player 4012-4120-1149
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:17:46 No. 18270217 Report Quoted By:
>>18270196 God
why does Diantha suck so bad
I hate her theme
Anonymous
>>18270080 >no kyurem allowed >mega kangaskhan broken shit allowed welcome to veepee monotourney :^)
where we ban legends in order to see variety in temabulding, yet every normal will use mga kangaskhan
:^)
:^)
:^)
Alec (2535-3620-7273)
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>>18270135 Shit, didn't even realize it. Sorry about that.
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18270130 Sorry Tim, I have no wifi unless I'm at McDonalds. Just posting on my phone. Tomorrow I can, though.
Anonymous
>>18270196 >VGC of course you can kil that thing in doubles, but singles is dfferent
3093 7346 2223 Tavo (Normal Type Team)
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>>18270178 Oh I thought you meant 1 poke v 1 poke
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:19:38 No. 18270251 Report Quoted By:
Anyone wanna battle?
Anonymous
>>18270221 Yeah this. Shit like Mega Gengar and Mega Kanga are allowed but something like fucking Zapdos and Kyurem, who aren't even OU (The latter of which is considered a borderline shitmon because of his typing, despite his decent stats) are disallowed.
god dammit
Anonymous
>>18270256 if that broken mega is allowed, 600 bst legends should be allowed too
i dont see any point in
>ingame gym leaders dont use legendaries well gues what?
IN GAME GYM LEADERS DONT USE MEGAS EITHER!
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18270186 Regular Kangaskhan with a Life Orb or Choice Band or what have you is still extremely good, it's just not as bulky. Trust me, you miss the bulk more than anything. I've used regular Kangaskhan many times. People never see it coming, either.
Magcarbro (IGN: Topple) 3695-0579-1062 (Excadrill, Ferroseed, Fortress)
Magcarbro (IGN: Topple) 3695-0579-1062 (Excadrill, Ferroseed, Fortress) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:21:47 No. 18270296 Report Quoted By:
>>18270256 I assumed that rule was in play because not everyone will be hacking so not everyone would have access to perfect IV legendaries.
That said, I think I may try to start making a team for this now and see if I can get in. Poison team here I come.
Anonymous
>>18270256 It's a blanket ban, or else we'd have people fighting for every single one. And Kanghaskhan's whole OU schtick is PP and Seismic Toss. I don't get why you're bitching.
Anonymous
>>18270306 see
>>18270290 im not saying all megas, im saying 600 bst and below
Anonymous
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope)
W3 2106-0057-4383 (Training on Mountain) (The FrisPope) Thu 27 Feb 2014 03:25:21 No. 18270371 Report Quoted By:
Anonymous
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>>18270306 >implying 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 357-423 (119 - 141%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(357, 361, 366, 370, 375, 379, 384, 387, 391, 396, 400, 405, 409, 414, 418, 423)
i dont see PuP boost anywhere
252 SpA Thundurus Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Kangaskhan: 254-300 (61.3 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(254, 258, 260, 264, 266, 270, 272, 276, 278, 282, 284, 288, 290, 294, 296, 300)
and thats if foucs miss actually hits
Aniny 3540 0120 0225 !WODDIhTl5M
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>>18270354 Our policy on legendaries is not changing. Suck it.
Shut up already about Mega Kanga, no one cares. I already accepted your butthurt challenge and I have no problem playing without Mega Kanga. I didn't even have to tho, because you're just some shitposting anon coming here to stir shit up. You won't even be around to see me succeed. You won't even feel vindicated in your twisted avarice...
Alec (2535-3620-7273)
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>>18270241 >Implying I don't know anything about singles In the brief time where my playing OU overlapped with Kang being legal, I never had a problem with one that didn't power-up punch. As long as you're creative enough, it's not that hard to stop. Heck, on the Flying team I'm planing to run I've got something to wall it that isn't Hawlucha.
As far as the legend argument goes, Mega-Khan is pretty much the only example of where this goes wrong. Again, going back to the flying team, if Zapdos were legal, I'd almost certainly run him if for nothing more because of his ability to win the mirror. But instead, I'm stuck with a decision between others: Rotom-Fan, which has electric as well but several drawbacks; Aerodactyl, which is good by isn't what I want on the team; or nothing at all for the mirror, relying on skill to help me through.
This probably makes me sound absolutely idiotic, though
