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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 20:54:06 No.18278118 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18278176 >>18278196 >>18278708

So now that its stats and movepool are out, what's /vp/'s opinion on Diancie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 20:56:09 No.18278142 Report

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Shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 20:59:29 No.18278176 Report

Quoted By: >>18287092

>>18278118
Neutral, i'm waiting on Volcanion.

Puella Play Nice !tsGpSwX8mo

Puella Play Nice !tsGpSwX8mo Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:01:28 No.18278196 Report

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>>18278118
Mid UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:06:38 No.18278257 Report

Quoted By: >>18278583

As a support role, it's literally just Carbink 2: Diamond Boogaloo. Except it doesn't get Sturdy.

As an bulky attacker, it's meh since it didn't get Recover or anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:06:39 No.18278258 Report

Quoted By: >>18278312 >>18286717 >>18290269

WHY THE FUCK IS DIAMOND STORM PHYSICAL

IT SHOULD BE FUCKING SPECIAL

IT IS LITERALLY A BOOSTED VERSION OF POWER GEM IN MECHANICS AND FLAVOUR

AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN ACTUALLY GOOD ON IT WITH CALM MIND BOOSTING SPA AND SPD, AND DIAMOND STORM BOOSTING DEF

ALL IT WOULD NEED NOW IS EARTH POWER TO GET AROUND STEELS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:08:39 No.18278279 Report

Quoted By: >>18278322

>Carbink gets Power Gem
>Diancie doesn't

Why is gamefreak determined that nothing can ever use Power Gem effectively?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:10:05 No.18278297 Report

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I really wish it had more HP. 50/150/150 is only barely better than 100/100/100 despite the larger point investment.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:10:55 No.18278310 Report

Quoted By: >>18278321 >>18278405 >>18278423 >>18284508

Ever notice how every single fairy-type except for the box legendary is a predictable one-trick pony at best and probably a shitmon otherwise?

Even the goddamn event legendary is fucking Articuno tier. Oh wow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:11:23 No.18278312 Report

Quoted By: >>18278381

>>18278258
>IT IS LITERALLY A BOOSTED VERSION OF POWER GEM IN MECHANICS AND FLAVOUR

Power Gem doesn't boost defense though.

W42 Andy

W42 Andy Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:12:04 No.18278321 Report

Quoted By: >>18278372

>>18278310
>what is mega mawile

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:12:05 No.18278322 Report

Quoted By: >>18278522

>>18278279
>diancie doesn't get power gem
>I'M LITERALLY BLIND AND CAN'T SEE THE OP PICTURE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:16:00 No.18278372 Report

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>>18278321
A one-trick pony

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:16:42 No.18278381 Report

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>>18278312
Power Gem literally has no secondary effects

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:18:16 No.18278405 Report

Quoted By: >>18278426

>>18278310
>predictable one-trick pony

Clefable is laughing at how stupid you are.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:20:01 No.18278423 Report

Quoted By: >>18278436 >>18278617 >>18278811 >>18280580 >>18281527 >>18281619

>>18278310
>Mawile
>Sylveon
>Aromatisse
>Azumarill
>Gardevoir
>Clefable
>Klefki
>Togekiss
>One-trick Pony

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:20:06 No.18278426 Report

Quoted By: >>18278457 >>18280364

>>18278405
>using clefable
>in the deosharp meta
SHIGGY DIGGY DOO WHERE ARE YOU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:21:07 No.18278436 Report

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>>18278423
>implying they're not

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:21:24 No.18278443 Report

Quoted By: >>18278450

Stats and movepool where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:21:47 No.18278450 Report

Quoted By: >>18278470

>>18278443
Serebii, nerd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:21:48 No.18278451 Report

Quoted By: >>18278476

>No recovery
Why do they keep doing this? So many Pokemon have their potential wasted because no fucking decent recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:22:04 No.18278457 Report

Quoted By: >>18278474

>>18278426
>hazards do nothing to Clefable
>good luck switching Bisharp into a Fire Blast
shiggy diggy do bop

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:22:59 No.18278470 Report

Quoted By: >>18278521

>>18278450
You don't have to insult me, anon.

>Serebii

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:23:08 No.18278474 Report

Quoted By: >>18278492 >>18278544 >>18278594

>>18278457
>4 SpA Clefable Fire Blast vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 204-242 (73.1 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
And then Bisharp outspeeds and OHKO's with Iron Head. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:23:28 No.18278476 Report

Quoted By: >>18278600

>>18278451
I long for the day when game freak goes out of business and an actually competent company takes the helm
but that'll never happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:24:29 No.18278492 Report

Quoted By: >>18278506

>>18278474
you forgot the life orb, nerd

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:25:34 No.18278506 Report

Quoted By: >>18278531 >>18278536 >>18278539

>>18278492
>Life Orb Clefable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:26:10 No.18278521 Report

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>>18278470
Because Bulbapedo totally has the stats/movepool up, and there's a better site to go to than Serebii.
>http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:26:10 No.18278522 Report

Quoted By: >>18278551

>>18278322
That's diamond storm retard, check its movepool on Serebii. No power gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:26:47 No.18278531 Report

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>>18278506
>magic guard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:27:02 No.18278536 Report

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>>18278506
>not abusing Life Orb and Magic Guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:27:13 No.18278539 Report

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>>18278506
Well thanks for confirming that you don't actually play the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:27:36 No.18278544 Report

Quoted By: >>18278575

>>18278474
Why would you keep Clefable in on Bisharp unless you wanted to risk the boosting move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:27:58 No.18278551 Report

Quoted By: >>18278561 >>18278585

>>18278522
Do you even play the game? That's what power gem's animation looks like in XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:28:43 No.18278561 Report

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>>18278551
I don't think many people would know because it's so uncommon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:29:41 No.18278575 Report

Quoted By: >>18278615

>>18278544
predicting the SD or Knock Off and going for the KO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:29:59 No.18278583 Report

Quoted By: >>18282302 >>18284542

>>18278257
>boogaloo joke
OMG SO EBIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:30:07 No.18278585 Report

Quoted By: >>18278626 >>18278644 >>18278651 >>18278663

>>18278551
>moves can't have similar animations
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml

Look at this, it doesn't get power gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:30:47 No.18278594 Report

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>>18278474
4+ SpA Life Orb Clefable Fire Blast vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 291-343 (104.3 - 122.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
4+ SpA Life Orb Clefable Focus Blast vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 634-749 (227.2 - 268.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
colon carot closed rounded bracket

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:31:02 No.18278600 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278476
Like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:32:09 No.18278615 Report

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>>18278575
That's still a huge risk on both ends. If you've already taken a Fire Blast to the face, you probably wouldn't play a risk like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:32:20 No.18278617 Report

Quoted By: >>18278637 >>18278657 >>18279032 >>18279310

>>18278423
But they are all literally one trick ponies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:32:48 No.18278626 Report

Quoted By: >>18278658 >>18279296

>>18278585
You're right, they can't have similar animations.

Too bad Diamond Storm looks nothing like Power Gem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLWExiyWuQQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:33:52 No.18278637 Report

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>>18278617
My physical Togekiss begs to differ. Takes down ubers, I swear!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:34:19 No.18278644 Report

Quoted By: >>18278689 >>18291820

>>18278585
Serebii's been wrong before, like the time he said Clawitzer got Shell Smash.

We have pictures on the official site of it using Power Gem. What do you think is more likely, Serebii being wrong or TPCi trying to ruse us?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:34:46 No.18278651 Report

Quoted By: >>18291820

>>18278585
Serebii has been wrong on many things before. It listed that greninja got rapid spin, for example

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:35:10 No.18278657 Report

Quoted By: >>18278744 >>18281206

>>18278617
Do you even know what a one trick pony is?

An Actual one Trick pony would be something like Kyurem Black and Mega Pinsir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:35:16 No.18278658 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278626
That explosion tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:35:33 No.18278663 Report

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>>18278585
>this unreleased pokemon doesn't get that move
>implying we know everything about the things that are yet to be released
>implying this powersave shit hacked everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:37:07 No.18278689 Report

Quoted By: >>18278696 >>18279354

>>18278644
The official site also has a shiny Diancie, even though its going to be shiny locked just like every legend in X and Y and every download since Black and White.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:38:06 No.18278696 Report

Quoted By: >>18279354

>>18278689
>what is shiny genesect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:38:37 No.18278708 Report

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>>18278118

Seems like a nice choice for a TR Team

Will probably use since Carbink can't hurt anything for anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:39:36 No.18278732 Report

Quoted By: >>18278772 >>18278779

>50/150/150 defenses
Why does GF hate defense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:40:08 No.18278744 Report

Quoted By: >>18278771

>>18278657

Not Kyurem Black, it can run a mixed set, a choiced set, a SubRoost set.

Though you are right about M-Pinsir..

Another one trick pony would be Cloyster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:40:37 No.18278753 Report

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What if it got oblivion wing and geomancy as part of its movie distribution, like how victini got zekrom's and reshiram's signature moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:41:41 No.18278765 Report

Quoted By: >>18278804 >>18281206 >>18282447

Eh, the 4x steel weakness and mediocre movepool makes me think this might just be an OU version of Carbink. The only thing keeping it from going into UU is diamond storm which'll destroy talonflame and charizard. Hoopa's got really shit typing and a disappointing signature move which is just a slightly more powerful phantom force, so no hopes there unless its got something else up it's sleeve offensively. Volcanion is the only event legend I can see breaking into ubers due to its great typing and steam eruption basically being hydro pump and scald mashed together with 95% accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:41:56 No.18278771 Report

Quoted By: >>18278813

>>18278744
I got my asshole stretched by a cloyser the other day. I felt so terrible afterwards, I was running hitmontop and forgot it was part ice type.
it wouldn't have mattered, its defense is really high

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:41:57 No.18278772 Report

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>>18278732
1) Defensive pokemon don't get the kiddies hyped

2) Stall is too boring and makes the battles last too long. It's the same reason they switched the offical battle format to Doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:42:20 No.18278779 Report

Quoted By: >>18278812 >>18278823

>>18278732

Because Gen 2.

You really want to go back to those days?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:43:43 No.18278804 Report

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>>18278765
Hyperspace Hole is 1 turn i believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:44:11 No.18278811 Report

Quoted By: >>18278854 >>18279019 >>18279434 >>18282566

>>18278423
>Mawile
>It does a lot of damage

>Sylveon
>It is specially bulky and specially fofensive

>Aromatisse
>Doesn't even have a trick

>Azumarill
>High ATK

>Gardevoir
>Fairy Type Hyper Voice

>Clefable
>Cosmic Power

>Klefki
>SUBSWAGGERFOULPLAY

>Togekiss
>PARAFLINCHPARAFLINCHPARAFLINCHPARAFLINCHPARAFLINCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:44:11 No.18278812 Report

Quoted By: >>18278847 >>18278925

>>18278779
I'd rather have that than the hyper-offense priority/weather wars we've been having these last two gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:44:11 No.18278813 Report

Quoted By: >>18278838

>>18278771
>, I was running hitmontop and forgot it was part ice type
How? Its primary STAB is an Ice move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:44:49 No.18278823 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278779
I'd rather have that than ADD: The Meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:45:34 No.18278838 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278813
It just didn't click, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:45:57 No.18278847 Report

Quoted By: >>18278885

>>18278812

You would literally have Snorlax: The Stallening than what we have now?

yeah, no. anyone with sense would not mean that in a serious manner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:46:11 No.18278854 Report

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>>18278811
dis nigga doesn't get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:47:44 No.18278885 Report

Quoted By: >>18279327

>>18278847
If you've ever been to the high ladder you'll get quickly bored of it than any GSC stallwar.

Fucking Deosharp is all I see nowadays and you expect me to believe SWAGPLAY is broken? Oh right, because Haunter likes HO. Never mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:49:35 No.18278925 Report

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>>18278812
>m-muh funbro

VGC is pretty much GF's final nail on the coffin for Stall meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:51:05 No.18278955 Report

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I've used mine in battles with random passerbys for shits and giggles. I know nothing of competitive aside from breeding, so it was just fun to show off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:53:49 No.18279019 Report

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>>18278811
>not running the glorious boostanroost set
>not running spikescreens or magician klefki just to fuck with people
>not running life orb clefable
>not fucking with taunt leads via aroma veil and setting up screenroom
>implying a pokemon being a special tank makes it a one-trick pony

Big Dolphin 3282-3048-8100 [Dusclops, Shuppet, Pumpkaboo] !!ZKHmASeN7IZ

Big Dolphin 3282-3048-8100 [Dusclops, Shuppet, Pumpkaboo] !!ZKHmASeN7IZ Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:54:15 No.18279032 Report

Quoted By: >>18281576

>>18278617
Togekiss can run paraflinch, go for an all-out set with Aura Sphere and Fire Blast backing up Dazzling Gleam, or go a defensive route and set up Light Clay screens.

Git. Gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:57:22 No.18279085 Report

Quoted By: >>18279133 >>18279205 >>18279222 >>18279253 >>18279568 >>18282726 >>18291446

I'm more interested in cHoopa. Wondering if she'll be able to hang with the big dogs despite the 4x Dark weakness, seeing how good Dark type is this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 21:59:36 No.18279133 Report

Quoted By: >>18279268

>>18279085
>she
Gardevoir and shit I can understand, but Hoopa doesn't resemble a female in any way.

Giselle 5172 0709 3277

Giselle 5172 0709 3277 Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:03:40 No.18279205 Report

Quoted By: >>18279268

>>18279085
>she

it's an it, not even Meloetta had a gender.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:04:52 No.18279222 Report

Quoted By: >>18279239 >>18279244

>>18279085
and the x4 ghost weakness
and the bug weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:05:29 No.18279239 Report

Quoted By: >>18279249 >>18279351

>>18279222
It's neutral to bugs you silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:05:41 No.18279244 Report

Quoted By: >>18279249 >>18279351

>>18279222
Nope Ghost resists Bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:06:02 No.18279249 Report

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>>18279239
>>18279244
man fucking everything resists bug

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:06:22 No.18279253 Report

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>>18279085
Not as long as Aegislash is still OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:07:28 No.18279268 Report

Quoted By: >>18279283 >>18279314 >>18279492 >>18281206

>>18279133
>>18279205

Oh God, you vultures are still swooping down from above for this kind of shit? Hoopa looks feminine. You must be trolling.

Diancie: female
Hoopa: female
Volcanion: male

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:08:34 No.18279283 Report

Quoted By:

>>18279268
They're not though, they're genderless. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:09:25 No.18279296 Report

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>>18278626
Actually, the diamonds from diamond storm and the ones from power gem look quite similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:10:08 No.18279310 Report

Quoted By: >>18279350

>>18278617
>Mawile
Has standard set and SubPunch set, as well as max HP and jolly max speed variants as well as different coverage moves to use (i.e. Ice Fang to beat Lando-T or Fire Fang otherwise)
>Sylveon
Cleric or offensive Tank, Calm Mind too, screens
>Aromatisse
Okay, in singles it's just trick room but it does a lot of shit in doubles
>Azumarill
Bellyjet or banded
>Gardevoir
Has something like a dozen sets
>clefable
Has something like a thousand sets
>klefki
Fagplay or spikes and screens
>Togekiss
Paraflinch or NP Offensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:10:28 No.18279314 Report

Quoted By:

>>18279268
Nope, Hoopa still looks genderfluid to me. Diancie and Volcanion I can agree with you on, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:11:28 No.18279327 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278885
Seeing someone use those ridiculous terms in a serious manner is kind of hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:13:15 No.18279350 Report

Quoted By: >>18279430

>>18279310
>Gardevoir
>Has something like a dozen sets
No it doesn't, it has two, Scarf and Mega. And most of the time the mega's used for muh le ebin WoW ruse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:13:17 No.18279351 Report

Quoted By:

>>18279244
>>18279239
If all resistance relations, but is one I never remember.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:13:24 No.18279354 Report

Quoted By: >>18279391

>>18278696

It's shiny locked, it doesn't count. A better example to counter >>18278689 's argument would be Kyushu train station events, which could be shiny or non shiny, yet still coming from the same wonder card.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:15:40 No.18279391 Report

Quoted By:

>>18279354
Shiny Genesect is the one with Extremespeed and Shift Gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:18:16 No.18279430 Report

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>>18279350
Nah, in UU at least Gardevoir is used as a screener, Healing Wish sacrificial lamb, scarfed revenge killer (along with Trick,) and some other sets.

In OU it's pretty much just mega, and WoW+3 attacks is its most reliable set but there's also CM sets.

The point is it's not a one trick pony. Everything I listed has one most popular or "good" set but they're still capable of other things, in the same way Talonflame doesn't have to be a banded YOLO revenge killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:18:33 No.18279434 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278811
>running swagplay klefki
I've used a klefki since it first came out and have never used this set. It's better at doing screens than that. Also having a high stat doesn't make something a one trick pony. What kind of dumb logic is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:21:21 No.18279492 Report

Quoted By: >>18279589 >>18279688

>>18279268
>Hoopa looks feminine
You'll have to explain this to me because I have literally never heard some say this until today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:24:45 No.18279568 Report

Quoted By: >>18279626 >>18279811

>>18279085
From Smealum's stat screens it looks like Hoopa is 80/110/60/140/130/80. Or close to that anyway. I wouldn't expect much out of it in OU with that horrible defense and the fact that Aegislash walks all over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:26:01 No.18279589 Report

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>>18279492
Not him, but it's pink, wears jewelry and looks like it's wearing a skirt. I can definitely see where he's coming from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:28:36 No.18279626 Report

Quoted By: >>18279651 >>18279667

>>18279568
>he doesn't know what hoopa's signature move does
Good luck using kings shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:29:56 No.18279651 Report

Quoted By: >>18279717

>>18279626
>what is Shadow Sneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:31:02 No.18279667 Report

Quoted By: >>18279717

>>18279626
Shadow Sneak, you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:32:27 No.18279688 Report

Quoted By: >>18279743 >>18279894 >>18280147

>>18279492

I can't tell you how a feminine-looking this looks feminine, it's beyond description. The best I can do is like take a look at Lopunny and Mawile, those are effeminate features. Then compare with Hoopa.

Also genderless means nothing. Starmie is genderless and looks feminine. The genderless objects like Magnezone I'll give you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:34:27 No.18279717 Report

Quoted By: >>18279809

>>18279651
>>18279667
Hoopa will probably get it too you know.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:36:07 No.18279743 Report

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>>18279688
>Starmie is genderless and looks feminine
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:39:27 No.18279809 Report

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>>18279717
But a Shadow Sneak from Hoopa won't even 2HKO an Aegislash in Shield forme even if it fully invests in attack and the Aegislash has no HP/defense investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:39:40 No.18279811 Report

Quoted By: >>18279839 >>18279863

>>18279568

>Horrible Defense

what is Alakazam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:41:32 No.18279839 Report

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>>18279811
Something that relies on Focus Sash and Magic Guard to stay relevant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:42:47 No.18279863 Report

Quoted By: >>18279878

>>18279811
Alakazam's other stats don't make up for its shit defense, Magic Guard + Focus Sash do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:43:58 No.18279878 Report

Quoted By: >>18279892 >>18280632

>>18279863

That's what I'm saying.

No one even knows Hoopla's ability or movepool so dismissing it so early to UU is pretty silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:44:57 No.18279892 Report

Quoted By: >>18280588

>>18279878
It's 4x weak to ghost so it sucks. That's what these people think.

It's not like you couldn't, you know, switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 22:45:08 No.18279894 Report

Quoted By: >>18280541 >>18280709

>>18279688
if you think starmie looks feminine, i think you have a warped view on what looks feminine and what doesn't.

hoopa looks like a gypsie to me. or a tramp. or maybe even a thief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:01:07 No.18280147 Report

Quoted By: >>18280270

>>18279688
Since you're being a little obtuse I'll just have to ask is it because of the jewelry?

Giselle 5172 0709 3277

Giselle 5172 0709 3277 Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:07:35 No.18280270 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280147

They're retarded enough that's prolly the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:12:17 No.18280364 Report

Quoted By: >>18280410 >>18280613

>>18278426
>implying Deo-Sharp isn't gimmicky and situational as fuck
>implying its not easy to spot from a mile away with team preview
>implying clefable gives a single fuck about bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:14:33 No.18280410 Report

Quoted By: >>18280510

>>18280364
Okay what the fuck is Deo-Sharp.
Deoxys+Bisharp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:19:03 No.18280474 Report

Quoted By: >>18280588

>defensive pokemon
>Base 50 hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:20:45 No.18280510 Report

Quoted By: >>18280613

>>18280410
Yup. The idea is to lay hazards with deoxys until a defogger switches in, then switch defiant Bisharp in on the defog to get a free swords dance. It's predictable and gimmicky though and easy to stop. Bisharp is too frail and slow to sweep without relying on sucker punch, and mach punch off of pretty much anything ohkos him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:22:44 No.18280541 Report

Quoted By: >>18281377

>>18279894
>hoopa looks like a gypsie to me. or a tramp. or maybe even a thief.
What's your point? Those are all common female professions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:26:24 No.18280580 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278423
only half of those are real fairy types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:26:41 No.18280588 Report

Quoted By: >>18280649 >>18280788 >>18280829

>>18279892
It has a 4x weakness to ghost AND dark. That's pretty shitty considering it only has two resistances and two immunities which aren't entirely common attacking types to begin with. The whole switch out argument is retarded since it gives your opponent a free turn on you.

>>18280474
Shuckle would like a word with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:28:30 No.18280613 Report

Quoted By: >>18280779 >>18281019

>>18280364
>>18280510
>deosharp
>gimmicky
Nigga you shitting me? Deosharp is literally all you fucking see past 1800.

Spotting it a mile away doesn't change the fact that Deoxys-D WILL get at least two hazard layers up and there's not a single ounce of fuck-all you can do about it. It's the Mega Khan of hazard setters. Deosharp lets shit players get to 1900 because of how brainless it is and how there's zero counterplay for the Deo-D lead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:30:45 No.18280632 Report

Quoted By: >>18280669 >>18280731

>>18279878
It's 4x weak to both ghost and dark. With all the knock off, shadow sneak, and sucker punches going around, compounded with its shit defense, it's very unlikely to be OU. Even UU will be hard with the loads of decent/good dark types that are now in UU.

Unless it's has some ability that makes it immune to priority or some ridiculous shit like that. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if its ability is prankster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:32:01 No.18280649 Report

Quoted By: >>18280685 >>18280749

>>18280588
>Shuckle would like a word with you.
You mean that shitmon that people only use for hipster cred?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:33:36 No.18280669 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280632
oh look the charizard argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:34:38 No.18280685 Report

Quoted By: >>18280697 >>18280822

>>18280649
You mean that beast who will sweep your ass with one early evasion proc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:35:40 No.18280697 Report

Quoted By: >>18280749

>>18280685
No, more like the "beast" that I just pummel with Aegislash's Sacred Sword. :^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:36:25 No.18280709 Report

Quoted By:

>>18279894

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:37:42 No.18280731 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280632
>Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if its ability is prankster.
I would love that. I hope it's just a legendary version of Sableye that can actually attack things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:38:51 No.18280749 Report

Quoted By: >>18280781 >>18280804 >>18280822

>>18280649
Nah, acupressure+rollout+rest+tox works nicely on my OU team. The lackluster HP is made up for if you get a defense or evasion boost. Combined with rest and sturdy, it's bretty gud.

>>18280697
>it has counters so it's shit
>:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:41:45 No.18280779 Report

Quoted By: >>18280798

>>18280613
then use rapid spin, fuckwit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:41:52 No.18280781 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280749
>any steel-type
>anything with Taunt
>depending on getting an evasion boost before getting Taunted
into the bin your fuckle goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:42:13 No.18280788 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280588
It has three immunities and we don't really know its base stats, movepool or ability. Two weaknesses to good attack types suck but that alone won't ruin it. People who wouldn't know better would say T-Tar is shit, what with seven weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:42:55 No.18280798 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280779
>what is Balloon Aegislash
>what is tremendous amounts of offensive pressure
Do you even HO?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:43:17 No.18280804 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280749
>Making fun of the "It has counters so it's shit" argument
>Earlier stating Hoopa is shit because it has two x4 weaknesses
>It has counters so it's shit
>But if it has counters, it's not automatically shit! O-Only the Pokemon I like!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:44:50 No.18280822 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280685
>>18280749
>Praying for evasion boosts to help you win battles
a shiggy ding ding

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Feb 2014 23:45:13 No.18280829 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280588
A free turn for Aegislash means fuck all when you switch out to Mandibuzz or specially defensive Hippowdon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:02:24 No.18281019 Report

Quoted By: >>18281207

>>18280613
>taunt
there's your counterplay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:15:59 No.18281206 Report

Quoted By: >>18281232

>>18278657
>Ice Kyub
>One-trick pony
>>18278765
Hyperspace Hole is a one-turn move, and OU has plenty of Rock-type offense as it is. And by "plenty" I mean "literally just Tyranitar"... which is significantly bulkier AND stronger than Diancie, especially when Mega.
>Physical defense:
4 Atk Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Carbink: 96-114 (31.5 - 37.5%) -- 87.8% chance to 3HKO after hail damage and Leftovers recovery
4 Atk Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 124-148 (30.6 - 36.6%) -- 65% chance to 3HKO
>Special defense:
>>Sand Stream
kek.
Plus the Mega.

Recall that Terrakion failed to reach OU last month. Diancie is less deserving of a teamslot than Terrakion, considering their reliability in doing their respective jobs.

>>18279268
...I actually see Hoopa as more masculine. It reminds me of Rhapthorne, in that it's a horned floating thing with no legs and is probably a huge dick.
Castle-sized alternate form when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:16:04 No.18281207 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281019
Mental Herb
Magic Coat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:17:59 No.18281232 Report

Quoted By: >>18281240 >>18281286

>>18281206
>Terrakion failed to reach OU

Fuck, UU is gonna be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:18:31 No.18281240 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281232
It's BL. If you care about UU pay attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:22:00 No.18281286 Report

Quoted By: >>18281738 >>18281876

>>18281232
Nah, it got kicked to BL almost instantly.

Though shit like that is the reason why people shit on OU Donphan so much. It's not that Donphan worse than having an empty slot, it's that it's less deserving of high tier use than, say, Kyurem-B, Terrakion, Landorus, Keldeo, Latias, and probably a few other things that are fucking around in UU and BL right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:28:05 No.18281373 Report

Quoted By: >>18281415 >>18281433 >>18281552 >>18281756

I still can't believe they sent Weavile to BL

What the fuck is that about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:28:11 No.18281377 Report

Quoted By:

>>18280541
>thief
>common female profession

Someone has been in their fantasy world where there's always a female option for too long.

Give it up anon, dude looks like a lady.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:31:25 No.18281415 Report

Quoted By: >>18281436

>>18281373
Knock Off and the Steel nerf made him really good. I wouldn't say BL good but Banded Weavile was an extremely good cleaner.

At any rate, all the stuff that's BL will get suspected to see if it's okay in UU, even completely broken stuff like KyuB, Mega Cham and Garde, and Terrakion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:32:49 No.18281433 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281373
It has base speed and attack over 100, a STAB priority move, and UU is stall city. It was just a matter of time.
The knock off buff was just icing on the cake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:33:19 No.18281436 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281415
Ah, thanks for the info

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:34:36 No.18281453 Report

Quoted By:

>carbink with double the Atk and Spatk

Will probably be used a little bit, its like a good shuckle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:41:17 No.18281527 Report

Quoted By: >>18281562

>>18278423
Although there's absolutely nothing wrong with being a one-trick pony, as many pokemon fill particular niches well, and although unpredictability is not a prerequisite to quality, albeit advantageous, and although the anon to whom you respond is retarded, almost all of those, and by some interpretation, every single one of those, are one-trick ponies.

Slickback 5472-7486-7033 ([Electric]- ??-??-??)

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Slickback 5472-7486-7033 ([Electric]- ??-??-??) Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:41:26 No.18281528 Report

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Looking for a Timburr or any evos, with Iron Fist as well as Drain Punch, Knock Off, Mach Punch, Ice Punch.

Will be using to breed and giveaway plus a couple to friends, please anyone. Will breed at least 25 5IV. (have 6iv ditto for ease.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:43:10 No.18281552 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281373
It's more of a "just-in-case" sort of thing. Since OU kept dumping demigods on the tier, they decided to just start quick banning all suspects until things settled down long enough for them to actually start testing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:43:53 No.18281562 Report

Quoted By: >>18281594

>>18281527
>and by some interpretation
By some wrong interpretation maybe. All of those mons have more than one set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:45:06 No.18281576 Report

Quoted By: >>18281619 >>18286684

>>18279032
Yeah, and smeargle can go for a water gun/razor leaf/ember/thundershock core.

Just because it could conceivably do different things doesn't mean it's not a one-trick pony. The two pokemon with the largest move pools use like 10 moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:46:32 No.18281594 Report

Quoted By: >>18281619

>>18281562
Literally every pokemon that can learn multiple TM's has more than one set. Nice interpretation there, bud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:48:42 No.18281619 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281576
Smeargle can actually use a really good scarf set with Parting Shot/Trick//Destiny Bond/Lunar Dance.

Nasty Plot Togekiss with Aura/Gleam/F Blast isn't total shit, unlike your smeargle there.

>>18281594
Okay: every pokemon listed in >>18278423 has two or more sets that are common to see on the ladder and are not total shit like Curse Sylveon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:50:18 No.18281639 Report

Quoted By:

ITT: No one knows what a one trick pony is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:57:29 No.18281738 Report

Quoted By: >>18281817 >>18281948

>>18281286
>it's less deserving of high tier use
then don't fucking use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 00:58:32 No.18281756 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281373
because sticky web

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:03:24 No.18281817 Report

Quoted By: >>18281857

>>18281738
We don't. Problem is, the low ladder shits still think it's worth giving a fuck about in OU, and since the stats aren't weighted now, they push this bullshit up to the top where they don't belong. Same reason that shitmon like Espeon and Galvantula and outclassed mons like Salamence are still OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:07:27 No.18281857 Report

Quoted By: >>18281974 >>18282110

>>18281817
why do you care? free win for you if someone uses it on you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:09:11 No.18281876 Report

Quoted By: >>18281948 >>18281954

>>18281286
I don't get this trigger-happy BL banning. If usage demands a ton of Pokemon make it to UU, why not just have that metagame and have things that don't make it in RU? Now Terrakion/Kyu-B/etc don't have a meta to play in

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:14:04 No.18281948 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281738
I don't. Why would I run a Pokemon that I just said isn't worth using?
>>18281876
It isn't permanent. They can't run Suspect tests fast enough to keep up with OP shit that isn't shiny and new enough for OU. In about a month or so, anything in BL that hasn't floated up to OU and wasn't Kyu-B-tier stupid is going to be put back in UU and properly Suspect Tested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:14:18 No.18281954 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281876
>Now Terrakion/Kyu-B/etc don't have a meta to play in
Yes they do. It's called OU. It doesn't matter if low-ladder shitters aren't using them, they're still good in OU.

Stuff like Kyu-B, Terrakion, Manaphy, Mega Medicham, Mega Gardevoir, and Staraptor have most or all of anything that can handle them locked up in OU. They were all too strong for UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:15:35 No.18281974 Report

Quoted By: >>18282022

>>18281857
Because I would LIKE Donphan in UU. OU is not all I play.

I'd also like Espeon and Salamence in UU too, and the second one might not even be that broken tbhp

ash BORING

ash BORING Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:18:54 No.18282022 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281974
uu is handling Hydreigon and Haxorus just fine, Salamence would be fine.

Also donhpan would be nice in uu, It wold be a decent spinner down there. ther'es a lot of pokes that need to drop that would be cool in UU and are crap in OU right now like forretress

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:25:15 No.18282110 Report

Quoted By: >>18282188

>>18281857
Basically, running Donphan is almost like the Showdown! equivalent to using an emoticon on 4chan. You're demonstrating that you are unfamiliar with the community and completely neglecting the myriad superior choices at your disposal. Remember, the flood of newfags that poisoned this board in the wake of X and Y didn't limit their stupidity to /vp/. Smogon was also caught up in the crush of chuckleheads, and things like the Funbro ban and the current Swagger debate are less about "balancing the meta" and more about keeping fools, children, and trolls from ruling the simulator environment through sheer force of bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:28:01 No.18282140 Report

Quoted By: >>18282151

So does anyone know when this thing gets released? Is it an in game event or a mystery gift or what?

ash BORING

ash BORING Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:28:43 No.18282151 Report

Quoted By:

>>18282140
probably a movie event eventually

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:30:43 No.18282188 Report

Quoted By: >>18282236

>>18282110
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:34:23 No.18282236 Report

Quoted By: >>18282314 >>18282341

>>18282188
It's closer to unironically using -_- in a post, since le ebbin maymay faec has its uses. But you get the idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:38:40 No.18282302 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278583
how fucking new are you. go back to reddit. the "OMG SO EBIN" os just as annoying an cancerous as the real thing. fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:39:25 No.18282314 Report

Quoted By:

>>18282236
oh ok i get it xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:41:26 No.18282341 Report

Quoted By: >>18282531

>>18282236
Donphan actually has its few uses in countering Deosharp cores. It's neutral to Smogonsword's Sacred Sword and if you give it Ass Vest and Knock Off, you can actually stand to beat it one-on-one. It walls Bisharp too.

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:43:22 No.18282365 Report

Quoted By:

252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpD
Relaxed
Leftovers
>sneaky pebbles
>calm mind
>moonblast
>diamond storm

Just make sure every steel is dead
Maybe something else instead of sneaky pebbles if she'll be used late-game so much

How shit is this set /vp/?

TheOnlyMoth

TheOnlyMoth Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:49:40 No.18282447 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278765
Don't forget the only pokemon with a more accurate stone miss/stone edge move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:54:10 No.18282531 Report

Quoted By:

>>18282341
i though it was for rapid spin+strong earthquake even without EVs into attack

TheOnlyMoth

TheOnlyMoth Fri 28 Feb 2014 01:56:18 No.18282566 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278811
>Aromatisse
Can set up trick room and other nasties without being taunt bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 02:06:51 No.18282726 Report

Quoted By: >>18283065

>>18279085
>Dark
>Good type this gen
It got nerfed to hell

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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 02:25:54 No.18283065 Report

Quoted By: >>18283250 >>18283299 >>18283385 >>18291194

>>18282726
Have you even played X and Y? Dark actually managed to come out ahead, even with the addition of Fairies. Fighting-types are much less common, which is good since most Fairies aren't as fast or strong as the punchitizers. Dark also got a neutral hit on Steel as a consolation prize, and since Ghost got the same buff Dark-types are now in high demand for being the only type besides lolNormal capable of standing between the rest of the metagame and a total zombie apocalypse. On top of that, Knock Off got turbocharged to a respectable 65 base power... which is boosted to 97.5 if the target is holding an item.
As of writing, there are 5 Dark-types in OU (pictured here), compared to 2 in Gen V. The number of Dark-types in Ubers has also doubled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 02:34:17 No.18283250 Report

Quoted By:

>>18283065

>Bisharp
>OU

never thought I would see the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 02:36:54 No.18283299 Report

Quoted By: >>18283382 >>18283447

>>18283065
You forgot Mega Gyarados

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 02:40:14 No.18283382 Report

Quoted By: >>18284560

>>18283299

>only gets Bite and Payback as STAB moves

I wouldn't even count it as one.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 02:40:13 No.18283385 Report

Quoted By:

>>18283065
Best bird. Fuck Talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 02:42:55 No.18283447 Report

Quoted By: >>18284560

>>18283299
>mega shitados
I wish, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 03:45:20 No.18284508 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278310
>slurpuff
>one trick pony

Lemme guess, your only use for it is hurr belly drum speed boost

FranKie: 1521-4014-2106 !mXYWAz9zZU

FranKie: 1521-4014-2106 !mXYWAz9zZU Fri 28 Feb 2014 03:48:18 No.18284542 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278583
Except that one is funny. Ebin is funny too, but the way you put it looked tacky and tryhardish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 03:49:24 No.18284560 Report

Quoted By:

>>18283447
>>18283382
>mega garados
>shit
Shitting on Rotom-W is really good when it's your public enemy #1. The mindgame potential is huge because you could well be a regular Garados for all they know because you're holding off the mega until the right time. Mold Breaker is really nice too and catches people off guard, people don't realise it KO's Dragonite through the Multiscale.

Bite is actually not that bad too, for what you're trying to hit. Celebi, Trevenant and Gourgeist still get murdered by +1 Bite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 06:32:22 No.18286684 Report

Quoted By:

>>18281576
>razor leaf
>not vine whip

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 06:34:32 No.18286717 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278258
THIS PISSES ME OFF TOO. I'VE BEEN WAITING ALL THIS TIME FOR A SPECIALLY BASED ROCK TYPE BASED ON CRYSTALS AND ITS SIGNATURE ATTACK IS PHYSICAL EVEN THOUGH IT'S A RAIN OF POWER GEMS WHAT THE SHIT GAMEFREAK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 06:54:07 No.18286949 Report

Quoted By:

Where are we getting infor mation on its learnset? Anyone have a URL?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 07:08:08 No.18287092 Report

Quoted By: >>18289934 >>18291170

>>18278176

Pulled from NeoSeeker forums.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 15:41:13 No.18289934 Report

Quoted By: >>18290233

>>18287092
A 110 damage scald? Oh hell yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 16:14:12 No.18290233 Report

Quoted By: >>18290249

>>18289934
>Scald
Could be an water Fire Blast with better accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 16:15:41 No.18290249 Report

Quoted By: >>18290281

>>18290233
>an water

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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 16:17:34 No.18290269 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278258

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Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 16:18:53 No.18290281 Report

Quoted By: >>18290286

>>18290249
If it bothers you I'll say it again, as much as needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 16:19:18 No.18290286 Report

Quoted By:

>>18290281
(^:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 17:39:53 No.18291170 Report

Quoted By:

>>18287092
>Water/Fire
>Mega Launcher
>70/125/120/125/89/71
>Rock Polish, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse
>Steam Eruption is boosted by Mega Launcher

How good would it be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 17:41:21 No.18291194 Report

Quoted By: >>18291215

>>18283065
But does Greninja count as a dark type? you know, with protean and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 17:42:51 No.18291215 Report

Quoted By:

>>18291194
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 18:07:05 No.18291446 Report

Quoted By: >>18291484

>>18279085
>x4 sucker punch weak
>shit speed and defences anyway
>ever viable
nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 18:12:21 No.18291484 Report

Quoted By: >>18291690

>>18291446
>shit defenses
Only on one side. 80/130 is the same as Latias.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 18:35:32 No.18291690 Report

Quoted By:

>>18291484
Yeah, but Latias has a decent typing, high Speed, acceptable Defense, great STAB and Recover. Hoopa's typing is shit both offensively and defensively and it has only 60 Defense and 80 Speed. It would need to have Tyranitar's movepool to be good, otherwise even Chandelure will outclass it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Feb 2014 18:47:21 No.18291820 Report

Quoted By:

>>18278644
>>18278651
Serebii said on GameFAQs that he is certain that Power Gem is not in Diancie's level up.

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