+1 252+ Atk Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Aggron: 94-112 (27.3 - 32.5%) +1 252+ Atk Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Regirock: 106-126 (29.1 - 34.6%) (neutral damage for comparison purposes) +1 252+ Atk Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 114-135 (28.9 - 34.2%) +1 252+ Atk Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 156-184 (35.1 - 41.4%) +1 252+ Atk Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 171-202 (40.3 - 47.6%) +1 252+ Atk Mega Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Giratina: 156-184 (30.9 - 36.5%) (again, neutral damage) Wow. This is news to me. Giratina's defenses are 150 HP / 120 Def / 120 SpDef. I thought it was the bulkiest mon in the game, but Avalugg and Mega Aggron both dethrone it. 252+ Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 225-265 (65.4 - 77%) +2 252+ Atk Sand Force Mega Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Mega Aggron in Sand: 330-388 (95.9 - 112.7%) +2 252+ Atk Mega Heracross Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 325-384 (94.4 - 111.6%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 256-303 (74.4 - 88%) +2 252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 327-387 (95 - 112.5%) +2 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 202-238 (58.7 - 69.1%) I could go on, but... This thing's bulk is incredible. Best physical bulk in the game, nigh impossible to OHKO without a STAB super effective hit, 140 base Attack... Let's have a Mega Aggron discussion thread. Do you use it? If so, which tier? Is it useable in OU? Do you give it Wish support? Does it need it? How about sets? Max HP and Attack? Defense for bulk? Special Defense to round it out?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
His bulk is great but no reliable recovery makes me sad has anyone had any success with a rest talk set?
Anonymous
>>18380581 It sucks because it has no Leftovers, no self-healing, and uses up a mega slot that could be used on something better.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
This thing is such a boss, but it is a shame that it doesn't get any reliable recovery.
Kozetsu Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
>>18380581 Choice Band Scrafty Moxie High Jump Kick fuck you
Anonymous
Quoted By:
No recovery, not even leftovers. Awful sp.def.>Inb4 "just put 252 on there" Then your pretty def bulk would be meh. Also the doubles teams that use him highly rely on him, every member of the party servers the purpose of supporting it making the whole team highly gimmicky.
Anonymous
>>18380620 >tfw High Jump Kek misses Kozetsu Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
>>18380581 If you want bulk + recovery get a fucking Florges w/ leftovers
wish/protect combo is excellent and SpA is decent
Anonymous
>>18380601 >uses up a mega slot Why are people still saying this? Not every team has to have a fucking mega evolution on it.
Kozetsu Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18380632 For UU, right? I guess they'd pair up well.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18380643 But what if you wanted Mega Pinsir on your team or Mega Mawile? Now you can't because your mega slot is being used up by Aggron.
Anonymous
>>18380620 +1 252+ Atk Choice Band Scrafty High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Filter Mega Aggron: 292-343 (84.8 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Awesome OHKO m8.
I'm just going to let you know that it's impossible to OHKO Mega Aggron with an unboosted physical attack. Banded Darmanitan Flare Blitz can't do it, and that's the most powerful physical attack in the game hitting for SE damage.
Not saying that Mega Aggron is great, but it's a pretty good check to a lot of stuff.
>>18380632 You mean Sylveon right?
And that's a special wall, not a psychical tank.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18380581 Aggron @ Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 72 Def / 184 SDef
Careful Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Curse
- Heavy Slam
Here ya go OP.
Once all the strong special attacker with SE moves are gone this monster in unstoppable.
You only need a bit of luck with Sleep talk.
Anonymous
>>18380691 >+1 252+ Atk Choice Band Scrafty I don't think that's how it works
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>18380783 This.
Moxie doesn't work with Choice band. Everyone knows this.
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
>>18380691 No I mean Florges. If I meant that shit tier eeveelution I would have said it
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
Quoted By:
>>18380804 I did not know that. fuck my ignorance...
Anonymous
>>18381007 Sylveon is better than Florges in every single way that matters.
Florges is faster (75 uninvested so fast lol) and has marginally (like, really marginal, something like 2%) higher special bulk.
Anonymous
>>18381066 Don't forget better special attack.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Charizard Y Fire Blast?
Anonymous
>>18380783 >>18380804 +1 Choice Band is literally the same as +2 which is easily reached with Scrafty.
Anonymous
>>18381079 By 2 points.
However Sylveon has Pixilate Hyper Voice which is way better than Moonblast.
Anonymous
>>18380643 >Not every team has to have a fucking mega evolution on it. Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18381090 +1 4 Atk Choice Band Abomasnow Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 127-151 (33 - 39.3%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO
+2 4 Atk Abomasnow Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 114-135 (29.6 - 35.1%) -- 15.6% chance to 3HKO
Keep being retarded.
Anonymous
mega aggron is absolute shit I love aggron but that doesn't mean I'm going to deny the truth he's one of the worst megas
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
>>18381066 Haha the stupid is strong with this one. Florges is marginally better in defence and SpA. Sylveon is outclasses only in HP. 95 base vs. 78 base
But you almost cant compare SpD. If you're feeling edgy, you could even through an assaut vest on her. but you wont have Wish/Protect combo of course
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18381079 pixilate more than offsets the difference on mono-attacking sets
>4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 165-195 (40.8 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO >4 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 135-160 (33.4 - 39.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO not to mention hyper voice also cuts through subs due to gen 6 sound mechanics
Anonymous
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
>>18381098 I'm trying to go for 1 hitter quitter kills. Florges is meant to be wall. depending on your SpD, 3-6 turn kills. Thats with the use of Wish/Protect
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18381121 Is better than Mega Aggron.
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
Quoted By:
>>18381155 *not trying.
>brain is typing faster than my fingers Anonymous
Quoted By:
>running max defense on something with 230 base defense >not just roaring them out as they setup +1
Anonymous
>>18381115 4 Atk Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 96-113 (24.3 - 28.6%)
4 Atk Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Florges: 92-109 (25.5 - 30.2%)
No, Sylveon is bulkier on the physical side. But it's pretty close.
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Florges: 84-99 (23.3 - 27.5%)
252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sylveon: 93-111 (23.6 - 28.1%)
And Florges is bulkier on the special side. But again it's pretty close.
However, Sylveon has Pixilate Hyper Voice which gives it very good offensive presence for a cleric/support mon. It also has really good coverage in Shadow Ball and Psyshock, so it can do an offensive set way better. Its wishes are also bigger because of its higher HP.
>you could even through an assaut vest on her Stupidest fucking idea ever
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18381007 >shit tier waifumon is better than sylveon Waifufags confirmed for being retarded faggots again
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
>>18381183 Well like I just said, I'm not using Florges for offense. I will admit Sylveon is way more well rounded. I just prefer Florges for my own hipster reasons.
Anonymous
>>18381222 >hipster reasons. it's ok to admit you wanna fuck your pokemon, anon
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
>>18381239 HAHAHA what the fuck do you think I'm some brony faggot? I mean everyone got their dick hard and pussys wet for Sylveon and there is no love for Florges and it's 154 base SpD. Who cares if it has ass for HP
Anonymous
>>18381284 >Who cares if it has ass for HP Fucking anyone, no HP = no bulk
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>18381101 He's right though.
Kozetsu: Water (krabby, poliwhirl,???)
Quoted By:
>>18381352 Maybe I just don't take the game as seriously as everyone then? I guess I could be considered more an amateur competitor. I don't try to set up skill swaps with Carbink and Shedinja. I don't particularly care that choice band Darmanitan w/Choice band is the bees mother fucking knees. I just play with the mons I like. And I make sure they are as good as they can be. Thats it.