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Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 04:50:46 No.18386881 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18386896 >>18387060 >>18387120 >>18387145 >>18387519 >>18387531

>Protect now gives 100% evasion during the turn its used and is now called evade/dodge.
makes more sense than every pokemon being able to summon an invincible forcefield

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 04:51:54 No.18386896 Report

Quoted By: >>18386923

>>18386881
Some moves aren't affected by evasion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 04:52:28 No.18386904 Report

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>Protect now becomes shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 04:53:54 No.18386923 Report

Quoted By: >>18387040

>>18386896
that could be a good way to buff those moves, hell maybe people will finally bring counters to evasion so they wont bitch about it like smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 04:54:14 No.18386927 Report

Quoted By: >>18387040

>implying there is anything wrong with force fields in magical monster land
>implying dodging an attack is the same as protecting yourself from it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:00:59 No.18387040 Report

Quoted By: >>18387052 >>18387184 >>18387194

>>18386923
this. No gaurd becomes a threat. too.

>>18386927
>implying it makes sense thematically.
Choice Band Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dry Skin Paras in Sun: 83548-98296
>paras protected itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:02:01 No.18387052 Report

Quoted By: >>18387068

>>18387040
whoops forgot (696233.3 - 819133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:02:37 No.18387060 Report

Quoted By: >>18387077

>>18386881
Makes as much sense as every pokemon being able to spit out toxic bile

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:03:08 No.18387068 Report

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>>18387052
i think you need to set up stealth rocks first though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:03:38 No.18387077 Report

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>>18387060
they take shits and shove it down the opponents throat. Shit is covered in bacteria

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:06:55 No.18387120 Report

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>>18386881
At least they shouldmake it if someone hits you with recoil move it still should make recoil damage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:09:51 No.18387145 Report

Quoted By: >>18387185 >>18387271

>>18386881
>makes more sense than every pokemon being able to summon an invincible forcefield

Generating matter from nothing, summoning the elements, eating dreams, and bending time and space are all kosher...

but invisible forcefields? BULLSHIT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:13:01 No.18387184 Report

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>>18387040
>implying it doesn't make sense thematically in a world where you can catch god in a tiny metallic ball and even the cutest monster can learn a move that can heavily poison you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:13:05 No.18387185 Report

Quoted By: >>18387195 >>18387196 >>18387282

>>18387145
There are many WHY in pokemon, ok.
But looking at the anime/real life this move should indeed be called evade. I'm with you OP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:13:46 No.18387194 Report

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>>18387040
a level 1 darmanitan is able to KO a level 100 paras

+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Helping Hand Flare Blitz vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Dry Skin Paras in Sun: 180-216 (100 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:14:06 No.18387195 Report

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>>18387185
Why evade when you can have a move that protects you from all sides?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:14:08 No.18387196 Report

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>>18387185
>But looking at the anime/real life

Found your problem. Found several, actually.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:19:57 No.18387271 Report

Quoted By: >>18387314 >>18387404

>>18387145
invincible as in impenetrable. Im not bothered that it exists but that literally every pokemon can learn it. also what is the point of having detect? Its the exact same thing but with a low distribution.
Pokemon can do all the things you posted but for the most part are governed by rules such as types or themes and protect does follows neither same goes for toxic, but I got nothing for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:20:34 No.18387282 Report

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>>18387185
I'll let you think why your comment is dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:22:42 No.18387314 Report

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>>18387271
> what is the point of having detect
For fighting STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:29:50 No.18387404 Report

Quoted By: >>18387481

>>18387271
What rules and restrictions dictate that Normal (generic) moves should not be accessible to all Pokemon?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:38:51 No.18387481 Report

Quoted By: >>18387502

>>18387404
what makes a move generic? why is mega punch/kick not fighting type?
Of course pokemon should have access to normal type moves. I hope your not saying that every pokemon should have access to the move Barrage or Camouflage. That would be silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:41:33 No.18387502 Report

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>>18387481
So is this entire bitchfest about every Pokemon having magical barriers being unrealistic. Back to square one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:43:44 No.18387519 Report

Quoted By: >>18387548

>>18386881
Congrats OP, you thought of Detect

Go celebrate by using a Fighting type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:45:16 No.18387531 Report

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>>18386881
Congrats OP, you thought of Detect

Go celebrate by using a Fighting type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:47:18 No.18387548 Report

Quoted By: >>18387555

>>18387519
>detect
>literally the same thing as protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 05:49:13 No.18387555 Report

Quoted By: >>18387686

>>18387548
OP didn't ask for a different move, he asked for a name change that doesn't involve magic force fields. Detect is precisely that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 06:10:01 No.18387686 Report

Quoted By: >>18387710

>>18387555
but I didnt, I changed an existing move to be more consistent flavor wise and more balanced The problem is not the move protect, its its distribution, every pokemon learns it.
They created detect with a very limited distribution, for what purpose? every pokemon that learns detect also learns protect and they are literally the same move. having both in the game is redundant. In this case, It would make more sense if they added a few more protect variations and distributed them differently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Mar 2014 06:13:24 No.18387710 Report

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>>18387686
You can still use Detect if the opponent uses Imprison and has Protect in its set.

Now if only there was an auto-Imprison ability.

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