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Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:24:13 No.18435692 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: Team building and Team Discussion
I'm making a new team so far I've got
Grednija-Protean with Life Orb
-Ice Beam -Surf
-Grass Knot - Extrasensory
Charizard Y
-Solarbeam -Fire Blast
-Air Slash -Dragon Pulse
Infernape -Iron Fist with Muscleband
-Mach Punch -Close Combat
-ThunderPunch -Flare Blitz
Garchomp
-Outrage -Swords Dance
-Earthquake -Iron Head

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:27:03 No.18435728 Report

Quoted By: >>18435763

i like it, its so super original and creative

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:27:13 No.18435732 Report

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Thinking about adding Haxorus, Steelix, Togekiss, Espeon, or this shiny Trevant I caught in a duskball nicknamed 2SPOOKY4ME

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:30:02 No.18435763 Report

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>>18435728
Im scrapping Garchomp the others are my favorite mons man. Infernape because he was my bro in Platinum, Charizard because he was my bro in Red/Blue/FireRed,Y, and Gredninja because he was my bro in X and Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:30:09 No.18435765 Report

Quoted By: >>18435788

Rock Polish Sturdy Weakness Policy Golem is all you'll ever need. Polish, Edgequake, and either Sucker Punch, Ice Punch, or PuP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:31:50 No.18435788 Report

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>>18435765
Golem is really cool I used him quite a bit in pokemon Stadium but Steelix was there for me Soulsilver so im leaning towards him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:35:55 No.18435825 Report

Quoted By: >>18435846

I'd appreciate some advice about how to round out my team. I've got:

Adamant technician scizor@scizorite
Bold Water Absorb Jellicent@leftovers
Jolly Skill link cinccino@king's rock
Adamant tyrantrum@???

What would you put in the last two slots? And what would you do about items here? I'm extremely new to battling

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:38:23 No.18435846 Report

Quoted By: >>18435902

>>18435825

Oh movesets on those are:

Scizor: Knock off/bullet punch/u turn/superpower
Jellicent: Scald/recover/confuse ray/hex
Cinccino: Knock off/tail slap/bullet seed/rock blast
Tyrantrum: Ice fang/thunder fang/fire fang/stone edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:42:44 No.18435902 Report

Quoted By: >>18435951

>>18435846
hmm a fire type would be really useful maybe Volcarona, Infernape, or Drought Ninetales.
And Maybe a dragon type for the last Haxorus throws people off and Dragonite Multiscale is bulky and hits hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:45:46 No.18435951 Report

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>>18435902

Damn, way to mention 2 of my favorites! I would love to use a ninetales and dragonite in there. in fact, I have HA parents with 5 ivs set aside for when I get around to breeding them, and I've been using a drought ninetales as part of the team I'm testing out on showdown.

Do you have any nature/moveset/item recommendations for those two? Also, what do you think of the items I've got on the other 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:48:37 No.18435997 Report

Quoted By: >>18436028 >>18436110

>>18435951
The items are alright but Tyrantrum could benefit from Muscle Band or that one that boosts SE moves. Ninetails should have Solarbeam and Fire Blast. Dragonite needs Dragon Dance and Outrage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:51:51 No.18436028 Report

Quoted By: >>18436110

>>18435997
Standard Speed minus non main attacking stat and Lum berry for Dragonite or your scarf of choice.And Air Ballon works well on Ninetails

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:57:47 No.18436110 Report

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>>18435997
>>18436028

Yeah the ninetales I've been testing on showdown is timid@air balloon with solar beam, fire blast, HP ice, and will-o-wisp. EV trained for Sp.Def and Speed. So far it's served me well. I guess I'll have to start planning something for a dragonite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:05:14 No.18436214 Report

Quoted By: >>18436230 >>18436320

Does anyone have a good vgc team I can use on pokemon showdown? There is a tournament near me in couple of weeks and I really need to learn what strategies work because I haven't done it before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:06:38 No.18436230 Report

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>>18436214
Are you intending to go full douchebag or competitively good and not completely douchebag

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Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:13:33 No.18436320 Report

Quoted By: >>18437147

>>18436214
Depends what you're going for, i'd recommend a good Trick Room, helped get me through.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:14:20 No.18436335 Report

Quoted By: >>18436486

>start using haxorus in OU
>everybody inmediately becomes the bravest bird only to be OHKOed back or switches into a fairy, giving me a free swords dance to poison jab them

Does no one knows that haxorus is no longer a choice banded outrage user or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:26:13 No.18436486 Report

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>>18436335
The anal wreckage Outrage Choice Band gives Haxorus is rarely worth it considering how easily he can be boxed in

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:27:51 No.18436527 Report

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I'm building my first competitive team ever, and so far I've got

Klefki, probably with Light Clay
-Light screen
-Reflect
-Twave
-Foul play

Slowbro, leftovers or maybe assault vest
-Scald
-Ice beam
-Slack off
-Filler

Flygon
-EQ
-Dragon claw / Stone miss
-U-turn
-Tailwind/Dragon claw/Stone miss

I've considered using Medicham as a mega, Gengar as a special sweeper and maybe a Clefable, but these would left me without hazards or a spinner. I know these sound stupid and I'll most likely get wrecked by most of my opponents, but the idea is to build a karenfag team to get a hang of competitive battling and then proceed to build a more capable team. But I'll ask here, is this team a total disaster or could I at least have a chance at winning battles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:32:09 No.18436592 Report

Quoted By: >>18436653 >>18436717 >>18437221 >>18437341

I don't have much experience with this, so hopefully you guys could direct me towards something that resembles a team, based on the small handful I have now.

-relicanth
adamant, rock head, life orb
head smash, rock polish, earthquake, waterfall
-tangrowth
relaxed, regenerator, assault vest
knock off, giga drain, earthquake, hidden power ice
-chandelure
modest, flash fire, choice scarf
fire blast, shadow ball, ???, ???
-garchomp
jolly, rough skin, choice band
earthquake, outrage, dragon claw, fire blast
-haxorus
adamant, mold breaker, no item yet
earthquake, outrage, dragon claw/dual chop, ???
-skarmory
impish, sturdy, leftovers
roost, spikes, brave bird/taunt, whirlwind
-scizor
adamant, technician, choice scarf
bullet punch, U-turn, pursuit, metal claw
-abomasnow
sassy, abomasite
blizzard, substitute, wood hammer, leech seed
-banette
adamant, frisk, banettite
sucker punch, destiny bond, confuse ray, will-o-wisp

I'm not really looking for OU: The Team, just interesting things. If anyone could look over those and just drop an idea or two of what I could actually turn this into, that would be helpful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:33:47 No.18436616 Report

Quoted By: >>18436809

>>18436527
If you're in the battle spot 3v3 You rarely see spinning and hazards come into play and I recommend this for Slowbro:
cycle / heal pulse / slack off / block @ leppa berry
Medicham is solid attacker but a bit frail

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:36:05 No.18436653 Report

Quoted By: >>18436923

>>18436592
>jolly, rough skin, choice band
>earthquake, outrage, dragon claw, fire blast
I'd find something else other than Choice Band I tried using it it gets to boxed in easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:40:28 No.18436717 Report

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>>18436592
Give Haxorus Poison Jab for fairy coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:47:05 No.18436809 Report

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>>18436616
>wanting to use Medishit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:47:57 No.18436826 Report

Quoted By: >>18437015 >>18437157

I'm hoping to make a rain team..
Mostly because I want to have a viable Toxicroak because I love the fucker.

I know I'll need a politoed but as for other team mates I really don't know what would work best.

Are there some cookie cutter rain teams out there I could get some ideas from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 22:54:51 No.18436923 Report

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>>18436653
>>18436717
thanks guys, you're awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:01:02 No.18437015 Report

Quoted By: >>18437157 >>18437171

>>18436826
Two good rain users are Dragonite (Thunder+Hurricane) and, surprisingly, Volcarona too, for Hurricane and extra coverage in Fire if your rain runs out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:08:11 No.18437103 Report

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>>18436230
I don't want to go full douchebag, but I am kind of undecided on using something broken like a prankster or a banned mega like most people will be using. I also probably won't use a dedicated stall because I'm tired of using it. I do quite like some of the common things like salamence and conkeldurr, and I have a 5iv gible, so I will use one of those. I like mienshao, but I don't know if I could use such a frail pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:12:09 No.18437147 Report

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>>18436320
I don't have any trick room pokemon but I could try it, I just have no experience with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:13:27 No.18437157 Report

Quoted By: >>18437171

>>18436826
Swift Swimmers such as Kingdra for obvious reasons
Stuff weak to fire (Ferrothorn)
Stuff that resists lightning & grass (Ferrothorn)
Stuff to counter enemy weather setters (Toxicroak is a good start VS Ttar)
These guys >>18437015

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:14:14 No.18437171 Report

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>>18437015
>>18437157
Noted.
Thanks a ton, this really helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:18:03 No.18437221 Report

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>>18436592
Wonder if you or anyone else here can help me out. I'm pretty new to competetive playing and all that but I'm looking to start getting a few mons together and Banette is one of them. I can't connect to the internet at the moment so can't WT for good IV Shuppetts. What are decent IV's and movesets for a Banette?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:24:02 No.18437295 Report

Quoted By: >>18437409 >>18437426 >>18437466 >>18437514

Ok guys, somehow I managed to get a battle with my Math teacher in two days, he knows his shit and I'm pretty sure he's not casual as the guys I beat in the school cafeteria.
Here is the team I'm thinking on using:

>Typhlosion@Specs
Blaze
Naive Max SpA, Max Spe
-Eruption
-Fire Blast
-HP Grass
-Focus Blast

>Blastoise@Leftovers/Scarf
Torrent
Modest, Max SpA Max Spe
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-HP Grass/Focus Blast

>Gengar@Sash
Levitate
Rash, Max SpA, Max Spe
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Sludge Bomb/Sucker Punch
-Dazzling Gleam/Sucker Punch

>Ludicolo@Life Orb
Swift Swim
Timid Max SpA, Max Spe
-Hydro Pump
-Giga Drain
-Fake Out
-Ice Beam

>Aerodactyl@Sash/Life Orb
Pressure
Jolly, Max Atk Max Spe
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Taunt
-Charizard's favourite move

>Lucario@Sash/Mega
Steadfast
Naive Max Atk, Max Spe
-CC
-Ice Punch
-ExtremeSpeed
-Sword Dance

Any advices?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:27:55 No.18437341 Report

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>>18436592
>Chandelure
Personally I use a Calm Mind one but if you still want the scarf you can use Energy Ball and Overheat
>Garchomp
Sword Dance chomp' is far better than banded
>Skarmory
Keep BB on it, you don't want to be taunted and struggle to death
>Scizor
Again SD set is better than Band

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:31:57 No.18437407 Report

Quoted By: >>18437658

>>18437103
try not to use Mega Blaziken though be prepared to encounter Bravest Bird and Rotom-W so have checks and counters ready

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:31:58 No.18437409 Report

Quoted By: >>18437464

>>18437295
Typhlosion should be Timid, not Naive, you need defenses more than an attack stat you're not using. Also from my experience Scarf is better on it than Specs because it's got enough SpA to kill shit unboosted but is not fast enough to threaten lots of stuff without Scarf.
That's first impression, give me a few minutes and I'll give more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:33:07 No.18437426 Report

Quoted By: >>18437464

>>18437295
pretty bro team outside of Lucario I like your team m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:37:00 No.18437464 Report

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>>18437409
Thanks bro, I have it Naive because my autism in natures so I can't do anything about it but I'll try the scarf online to see how it works.

>>18437426
Thanks m8, I still think it is a little 2genwunner4u but it works pretty well, Lucario is there because I wanted a physical attacker and Pidgeot wasn't very good at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:37:11 No.18437466 Report

Quoted By: >>18437549

>>18437295
If you're running Blastoise as a speedy offensive spinner, get a Starmie instead, or change it and give Toise HP investment.

Ludicolo is a pretty ludicrous choice outside if a rain team but if you must use it it looks okay- though I've never ran one so I don't know what it's best for. It does seem a bit redundant with Toise hanging about though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:40:48 No.18437514 Report

Quoted By: >>18437549

>>18437295
You have NOTHING with any invested bulk which is a bit of an issue- I'd say replace the Ludicolo (already redundant with Blastoise there) with something big and bulky, or give Blastoise some HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:43:11 No.18437549 Report

Quoted By: >>18437584

>>18437514
>>18437466
Ok thanks guys.
What I'm going to try is giving Blastoise max bulk, drop speed and maybe use the Mega but I'll miss lefties recovery.
Also get another Physical Attacker, I'm thinking on Hawlucha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:46:02 No.18437584 Report

Quoted By: >>18437617

>>18437549
I wouldn't drop Mega Luke for mega Blastoise- just swap the speed with HP.
As for a physical attacker, definitely get somebody with good natural bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:48:24 No.18437617 Report

Quoted By: >>18437633 >>18437710

>>18437584
I like that idea.
Any recomendations for a bulky physical attacker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:49:28 No.18437633 Report

Quoted By: >>18437646

>>18437617
Waterfall/Aquatail
Rapid Spin
Avalanche?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:50:48 No.18437646 Report

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>>18437633
Actually I was thinking more on replacing Ludicolo with another Pokemon, I have never used Physical Blastoise it looks tempting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:51:34 No.18437658 Report

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>>18437407
I'm thinking about using scarfed excadrill because it should work on both of those, but I'm sure there's something better for doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:55:01 No.18437710 Report

Quoted By: >>18437868

>>18437617
Aggron's a fun one- enormous Head Smashes and absurd physical bulk.
Lots of the Eveelutions have good defensive stats- Sylveon particularly is very good on the special side.

Others include:
Skarmory (physical wall)
Ttar and Conkeldurr (great assault vest users)
Aegislash (great both ways)
Ferrothorn (good both ways, best against Physical attackers)
But really just look at a list of your favorites, find the ones with good defenses and ask about them here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2014 23:55:04 No.18437712 Report

Quoted By: >>18437840 >>18437868

So what's the best moveset for Dragonite?

I'm thinking Extreme Speed/Outrage/Dragon Dance/??? (Blizzard, thunder, hurricane, draco meteor?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2014 00:04:53 No.18437840 Report

Quoted By: >>18437914

>>18437712
for a physical attacking dragonite, earthquake, roost, fire punch or aqua tail probably. just look to see what coverage your team needs. Are you going to use lum + outrage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2014 00:07:23 No.18437868 Report

Quoted By: >>18437914

>>18437710
I'd really like to use AssVest T-Tar it synergizes very well with Luke but considering Aerodactyl is going to die early SandStorm becomes a problem, the Aggron I have sadly is from Emerald (still waiting for a tutor) so no Head Smash.
Tyrantrum
Weezing
and Chesnaught
Sounds good on paper too.

>>18437712
Fire Blast for Steel Types, especially Skarmory and Forretress, or Fire Punch so you an invest everything on Attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2014 00:10:55 No.18437903 Report

Quoted By: >>18437935

Very new to competitive pokemon, expecting to be ripped apart.

>Ninjask @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 4 SDef / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Facade
- Swords Dance
- Baton Pass

>Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extreme Speed
- Ice Punch

>Heracross @ Heracronite
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Rock Blast
- Bullet Seed
- Pin Missile
- Earthquake

>Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 Spd
Modest Nature
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon
- Dark Pulse

>Trevenant @ Lum Berry
Ability: Harvest
EVs: 60 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk / 192 Def
Careful Nature
- Rest
- Leech Seed
- Toxic
- Horn Leech

Rotom-Wash @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Modest Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def
- Trick
- Thunderbolt
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch

Kelly 5343-8612-3752

Kelly 5343-8612-3752 Tue 11 Mar 2014 00:11:45 No.18437914 Report

Quoted By: >>18437930 >>18437966

>>18437868
>>18437840

Earthquake sounds like it might be a good option. The team I'm planning is Tyrantrum/Cinccino/Ninetales/Jellicent/Scizor, so I don't think I need an extra fire or water move, esp. since the tyrantrum knows fire fang

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2014 00:12:58 No.18437930 Report

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>>18437914
I'd still put a Fire move on Dragonite, Earthquake doesn't offer you anything at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2014 00:13:13 No.18437935 Report

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>>18437903
Not sure what the fuck happened with Trevenent's attack EsV. Fixed that to zero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2014 00:16:12 No.18437966 Report

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>>18437914
yes, I suggested earthquake but fire punch is quite a lot better to avoid being walled by steel types as the other anon said.

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