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I'm running one, with those exact moves in fact. Admittedly, I'm using an expert belt because I don't have an assault vest yet, but still.
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>>18484591 This little shit is the first little shit which got the well deserved nickname "Blaster", because he is a fucking little water blasting shit
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 12:28:47 No. 18484621 Report Anonymous
>>18484621 Nah, I'm good,
Perfectly capable of grinding my way through the Maison far enough to buy one.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 12:33:15 No. 18484640 Report Quoted By:
>>18484627 Sure. I just got spare ~300 points, so I thought I may do somebody a favor or something
Skelzore 2165 6642 0438 {2049} [Oddish, Ivysaur, Quilladin] !!mxNcXQoFFF+
Skelzore 2165 6642 0438 {2049} [Oddish, Ivysaur, Quilladin] !!mxNcXQoFFF+ Fri 14 Mar 2014 12:53:04 No. 18484751 Report >>18484591 In doubles you could run Heal Pulse on it. I think with mega launcher, it heals 75%
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>>18484751 Indeed it does.
Making it a surprisingly powerful healer, except for the part where the assault vest prevents the use of status moves.
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I've considered the exact same set, OP, only using Scald instead of Water Pulse to boost the defensive capabilities. I've also toyed around with the nature a little, as Bold + ScaldBurn gives great physical bulk and Calm + AssVest gives great special bulk. Have you tried it out with a Quiet nature yet in a Trick Room team? It's bretty gud.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 12:58:35 No. 18484777 Report Quoted By:
>>18484751 Yeah, but for Doubles I would run another set, defensive naure and EV spread. Quite good overall bulk, sweet Heal Pulse. Without investments it gets 276 Special Attack, so it would still hit fairly hard with SE Mega Launcher moves.
Yup, i think that way is valid too.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:03:59 No. 18484792 Report >>18484770 With Water pulse Clawitzer is cpable of tanking Charizard Y Solarbeam and KO him back after Stealth Rock. ScaldBurn is hazardous, but it surely can pay off.
I'm breeding the Modest one now, never actually used it, I took a closer look at Clawitzer this morning, did some calcs and thought 'hey, this may work, i wanna try it'. But yeah, I like Quiet ShrimpRoom sweeper idea.
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:07:49 No. 18484810 Report >>18484792 Ah, I figured you'd have tried it out on a sim like Showdown first before actually breeding one. I'm not 100% up to date with the tiering and stuff, but I didn't think Clawitzer would be facing OU Pokés like CharYard. Does it really KO even in the sun?
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:11:23 No. 18484829 Report >>18484810 38% chance after stealth rock. Yeah, I know that fight Clawitzer vs Charyzard is not likely to happen [unless in Battle Spot], I just wanted to calculate tanking abilities, thought that Solarbeam like that is a good test.
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:17:00 No. 18484846 Report Ah right, makes sense. What team mates would you put in with Clawitzer? I'm thinking a bulky WishPasser would do the job best, maybe something with Aromatherapy/Heal Bell incase of Toxic. Shame that the AssVest doesn't allow the use of Heal Pulse, it'd be so good for doubles.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:25:28 No. 18484888 Report >>18484846 >AssVest I picture some weird stuff right now
If you are not affraid of putting to much Water in one team, Alomomola* is very neat. You can go physicaly invincible [534/284] or overall bulk in Calm one [534/202/202/], works pretty fine. It's Wish is awesome and it gets regenerator, so with one switch you significantly heal 2 pokemon at a time. Or you could try Umbreon or something.
*Alomomomola is whole other topic, I run one with Soak. They say that it's a shit move in competitive, but it has some really great uses,
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:29:24 No. 18484897 Report >>18484888 yeah, not 100% on board with the whole AssVest abbreviation, but it's the one I've seen most so I've just taken to using it.
Is another Water-type really that great for WishPassing to a Water-type? They're both weak to the same moves, I figured something with a different type might've been better off. Then again, I'm not exactly sure what tier Clawitzer is, so I've no idea what WishPassers are viable team mates.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:33:34 No. 18484906 Report >>18484897 UU I guess, so Umbreon comes to mind. Or Regenerator Audino. Or something from 6 gen, I'm not sure who gets Wish in 6, i'll check that.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:35:16 No. 18484911 Report Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:37:35 No. 18484916 Report >>18484911 I guess I could see Florges pulling it off seeing as it serves an OK cleric role, though nobody uses Grass or Electric moves against any of those Pokémon.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:41:04 No. 18484929 Report >>18484916 Florges is a good cleric, but it's hp is not that high, and it's significantly weaker physically - like Clawitzer. So you can expect some physical attacks. But yeah, it might work.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:42:35 No. 18484936 Report >>18484929 On the other hand, you can expect some steel against Flor, so that would be nice to take on Claw
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:45:42 No. 18484948 Report >>18484929 >>18484936 I know the HP is low, but the alternative is Bold Sylveon which has slightly lower Def, Sp.Def and Sp.Atk and is better off passing Calm Mind or utilizing a SubCM set itself then being a Cleric.
The Steel resist on Clawitzer is nice, though. Just have to hope they aren't carrying something that'll poison you.
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>>18484948 Then Florges would work better in that case, since it carries Aromatherapy.
Anonymous
I would love to put my hands on one of those things. I've always played trick room doubles and shrimpdick would be a lovely addition to my team, the assault vest build in particular. I wonder if using Muddy Water instead of Water Pulse could be a good option.
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:56:33 No. 18485015 Report >>18484966 The issue then is if they have Posion Jab, Sludge Bomb or Sludge Wave to poison you with, as Florges would rather avoid those moves, I imagine.
>>18484993 Muddy Water has a lower base accuracy than Surf, so is it really worth the possibly drop to the opponent's accuracy?
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 13:56:54 No. 18485018 Report Quoted By:
>>18484993 I just hatched pentaperfect Clauncher, I can hit you up with some female 4iv leftover if you want
>tfw you have cool looking shiny Clauncher named Zoidberg, but it's too shit to use in competitive and you are too lazy to Medusa Method one Anonymous
>>18485015 Muddy Water will only hurt the opposing pokemon, that's why you should use it in doubles instead of surf.
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 14:00:56 No. 18485054 Report >>18485034 Surely your team mates in doubles carry Protect? That would shield you from things like Fake Out, Earthquake and the opponent's Surf.
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>>18485054 Yes but they carry helping hand too, and I really enjoy that 50% boost.
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon)
Frapton 2578 - 4460 - 0911 (Muk, Garbodor, Cascoon) Fri 14 Mar 2014 14:14:05 No. 18485127 Report >>18485078 Perhaps team Clawitzer up with a Dry Skin/Water Absorb partner?
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 15:44:01 No. 18485985 Report Quoted By:
>>18485127 Not to mention Storm Drain!
Anonymous
Useless in doubles Rotom-W - Garchomp combo kills it
Anonymous
>>18486132 Everything has a combo that completely counters it, but it doesnt mean it's shit so stop being a huge faggot
Anonymous
>>18486294 Rotom/Garchomp is THE most common starting duo is doubles
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 16:24:52 No. 18486427 Report >>18486332 It takes 3 Discharges to put down ButtVest Clawitzer [it's really special-bulky], Gastrodon [if we're talking about water-resistant pokemon] sure as hell can take some of that too.
Anonymous
>>18486427 >Doubles Earthquake + Discharge kill it before it even gets an attack in, plus your partner gets damaged too
Too slow to work in doubles
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna Fri 14 Mar 2014 16:34:53 No. 18486529 Report >>18486427 Hey, did you have any breeding leftovers of Clawitzer please? I can offer 4/5 IV 'mons in return.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 16:51:01 No. 18486689 Report >>18486512 Rotom's Discharge + full attack Garchomp's EQ deals 91%-106% of full Clawitzer's hp. So he has more chances to live then to perish. And you are sure to OHKO Garch. And well, you can also take some EVs from spat and put them in Special Def, since thanks too AssVest you get +1,5 of it for 4EVs instead of +1
>>18486529 Why of course! I have and I'll be more than glad to share, my sir.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:08:22 No. 18486690 Report Quoted By:
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Oh my god is that a real plush
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:13:02 No. 18486754 Report >>18486689 Is anyone else having trouble posting too?
Adding you now, what would you like?
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:17:48 No. 18486820 Report >>18486754 Nothing in particular, even Fletching will work. But, what breed leftover do you have?
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:20:07 No. 18486843 Report >>18486820 Sorry for the delay earlier, 4chan wouldnt let me post.
I can breed you Galewings Fletching, give me 2 mins.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:21:06 No. 18486858 Report >>18486843 nah, i don't need gale wings,i have full dex and most stuff i want, just give me anything
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:22:42 No. 18486891 Report >>18486858 Okay, is Arwil your ign?
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>>18484627 Try the Battle institute mang. I do it, it's really not hard to blow through the 5 people and get 7 star rank you get like 15-20 bp for it or something like that.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:23:59 No. 18486916 Report >>18486891 Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
IGN: Nigeriasz
:)
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:26:14 No. 18486938 Report >>18486916 Thanks, check its moves + IVs.
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:27:36 No. 18486950 Report >>18486938 Cool. I belive i gave you 4iv missing attack and something.
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna
Kjedoran - 3926-5649-9400 Flying - Fletchinder - Spearow - Swanna Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:28:36 No. 18486963 Report Quoted By:
>>18486950 It has giga drain and defog though.
Anonymous
>>18484829 >38% chance after stealth rock. that's honestly pretty unimpressive
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz
Arwil 2122-6731-7786 [Octillery, Gyarados, Frogadier] IGN: Nigeriasz Fri 14 Mar 2014 17:29:51 No. 18486981 Report Quoted By:
>>18486965 It's under the sun, you know. But!
> I just wanted to calculate tanking abilities, thought that Solarbeam like that is a good test.