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Torterra builds

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:22:06 No.18530278 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18530287 >>18530311

I know he's not the strongest, but what's the best way to run Torterra on rated Wifi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:24:14 No.18530287 Report

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>>18530278
>rated WiFi
Don't.
I run him with Curse/Earthquake/Seed Bomb/Crunch with a Telepathy Musharna in Doubles. Trick Room up, then proceed to rek with Helping Hand boosted Earthquakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:28:46 No.18530303 Report

Quoted By: >>18530327

Torterra @ Life orb
252 ATK / 252 SPE / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
-Rock Polish
-Wood Hammer
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

Jolly over Adamant to outspeed Scarfed variants of Garchomp, Rotom-forms, Excadrill, Thundurus, Landorus, Darmanitan, Salamence, and Chandelure.

Also to outspeed Speed Boost M-Blaziken, Dragon Dance Dragonite, Mega Aerodactyl, Mega Alakazam, Dragon Dance Mega Charizard X (and of course Charizard Y), and Dragon Dance Gyarados.

All after a Rock Polish, of course, so take that as you will.

Thoughts on this, /vp/?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:33:51 No.18530311 Report

Quoted By: >>18530327

>>18530278
My nigger, best platinum starter for me, i like Goku but he is not as awesome as Torterra, i have 2 sets.

Jolly
252 Atk/4 HP/252 Spe
Life Orb or Focus Sash
-Wood Hammer/Crunch
-Crunch/Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Rock Polish

Just Rock Polish and sweep, use Focus Sash if you are scared of ice or an OHKO in the first turn, the recoil of Life Orb also hurts specially with Woodhammer but it kills bitches, Crunch is for Ghosts and Alakazam.

Adamant
252 Atk/4 SpDef/252 HP
Leftovers
-Woodhammer/Crunch
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Curse

IMO this one never worked for me, use it only against retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:41:08 No.18530325 Report

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Always put lefties and leech seed on it

Turns into an almost unkillable tank

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:43:10 No.18530327 Report

Quoted By: >>18530329 >>18530342 >>18530414

>>18530303
>>18530311
The Rock Polish set shits all over almost every Mega.

Behold:

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Alakazam: 320-378 (126.9 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Absol: 341-402 (102 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Blastoise: 385-455 (106.3 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Blaziken: 452-533 (150.1 - 177%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 346-408 (116.1 - 136.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 619-728 (207.7 - 244.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Wood Hammer vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir: 320-378 (115.1 - 135.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gengar: 452-533 (172.5 - 203.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Gyarados: 416-494 (105.5 - 125.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Houndoom: 413-486 (141.4 - 166.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 416-494 (148 - 175.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

-1 Life Orb Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Manectric: 304-359 (108.1 - 127.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 312-369 (102.6 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Pinsir: 432-510 (158.8 - 187.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Aerodactyl: 289-341 (95.6 - 112.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Life Orb Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Medicham: 259-305 (99.2 - 116.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 265-315 (65.5 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Life Orb Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Kangaskhan: 226-266 (54.5 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Life Orb Wood Hammer vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Garchomp: 200-238 (55.8 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:45:07 No.18530329 Report

Quoted By: >>18530334 >>18530342 >>18530344

>>18530327
Well no shit if you put everything with 0 defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:46:42 No.18530334 Report

Quoted By: >>18530342

>>18530329
No mega invests in defense dude, not even Gardewaifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:48:52 No.18530342 Report

Quoted By: >>18530353

>>18530327
>>18530329
>>18530334
Mainly because most megas are sweepers

But putting 0 defense in something like mega tyranitar or gyrados is fucking stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:49:34 No.18530344 Report

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>>18530329
I ran them with the most common investments. Note the ones that have 252 HP. No one runs Defense EVs on things like Mega Lucario, Houndoom, Alakazam, even Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:51:49 No.18530353 Report

Quoted By: >>18530360

>>18530342
252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Mega Tyranitar: 221-265 (54.7 - 65.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Mega Gyarados: 335-398 (85 - 101%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

Happy? Even though no one runs 252 HP / 252 DEF on Gyarados ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:53:36 No.18530360 Report

Quoted By: >>18530387

>>18530353
>not running tank gyrados and taking hits all day erry day

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 11:59:00 No.18530387 Report

Quoted By: >>18530394

>>18530360
>running "tank gyarados"
>getting 2HKO'd by Torterra even after Intimidate

Hope you're packing Ice Fang, brah. Not that it'll help you if you don't outspeed (it's a 2HKO with no investment).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:00:33 No.18530394 Report

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>>18530387
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Mega Gyarados Ice Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 340-404 (86.2 - 102.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:02:49 No.18530403 Report

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I was planning on using one to counter the mass amount of Rotom-W but I'm not 100% sold

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:04:39 No.18530408 Report

Quoted By: >>18530411

Some more calculations. Torterra vs the OU tier:

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 424-502 (139.4 - 165.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 650-767 (200.6 - 236.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 717-847 (185.7 - 219.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 665-785 (223.1 - 263.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO (You have to catch it switching in, of course. Although Talonflame only has a 37.5% chance to OHKO with Life Orb.)

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 624-736 (218.1 - 257.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 546-642 (135.1 - 158.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 416-491 (102.9 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 569-671 (157.1 - 185.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Torterra Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Infernape: 499-588 (170.3 - 200.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Galvantula: 380-447 (135.2 - 159%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 352-415 (139.6 - 164.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lucario: 507-595 (180.4 - 211.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 253-298 (65.8 - 77.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 265-315 (81.7 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Life Orb Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Togekiss: 263-309 (70.3 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Life Orb Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 187-222 (54.3 - 64.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Life Orb Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 131-155 (40.4 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:06:53 No.18530411 Report

Quoted By: >>18530428

>>18530408
looks like you could take off the life orb and nothing would change except OHKO against Tyranitar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:08:35 No.18530414 Report

Quoted By: >>18530420

>>18530327
to take the mega kanga example, mega kanga also 2hko's you, and even assuming you get in on it with rock polish up, you'll never land that 2nd hit first because it can finish you with sucker punch

so even in your best case scenario you lose

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:10:12 No.18530417 Report

Quoted By: >>18530421

I love torterra but so many people run talonflame, gengar, blaziken, charizard, etc. Worse than on simulators.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:10:31 No.18530420 Report

Quoted By: >>18530450

>>18530414
You have a point in that particular case, but does the rest of that list not pretty much stand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:12:17 No.18530421 Report

Quoted By: >>18530473

>>18530417
But if you get Torterra in and Rock Polish, you can OHKO Blaziken (even after Speed Boost), Charizard (both Megas), Talonflame (if you catch it on the switch) and 1HKO Mega Gengar (and 2HKO normal Gengar).

You should read the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:14:09 No.18530428 Report

Quoted By:

>>18530411
That's mostly accurate, but you need it for some Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:22:01 No.18530450 Report

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>>18530420
most likely

i don't disagree with your general point that a rock polish life orb torterra can be pretty frightening

that said, so are various other mons after stat boosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Mar 2014 12:27:00 No.18530473 Report

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>>18530421
I know what it is capable of IF it can set up a polish, but it's not always as simple as it seems

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