>>18632609tbf to him all of those pokes are pretty shit in OU (except ditto), either outclassed or just not good.
forretress lost every niche it had in OU, and carbink has absolutely zero offensive presence (not even seismic toss/night shade) and has a terrible defensive typing, so it's complete set up bait.
avalugg has shit defensive typing and literally no special defense (it has to use sturdy for its special defenses). slurpuff gets hard fucked by two of the most common steels in the meta (scizor and tran) and checked by a lot of big threats. nidoking is great in UU but fucking terrible in OU where shit like offensive deo-s, pinsir, excadrill, and talonflame prey on its lack of decent defenses and its mediocre (85) speed tier. florges is completely outclassed by sylveon in every capacity (sylveon has more powerful STAB thanks to pixilate, better physical (and special) bulk due to higher HP, and better wishes due to higher HP). the only possible advantage florges has over sylveon is the speed, but even scarf sets are outclassed by other fairies and scarfers. drapion is just not very good, weezing is outclassed as a physical wall despite will-o-wisp (it doesn't even have reliable recovery like skarm), and kekleon has terrible base stats in most areas and some very bad move incompatibilities with protean (e.g. drain punch and elemental punches).
long post, but you should get my point.
also fiery karenfriend maybe try fucking arguing with reasonable points next time, you literally did nothing but throw a massive blanket over an entire community calling them all idiots and scrublords and then called a guy who was challenging your points underage and blind for not agreeing with your opinion
thanks, lord diatom