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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:10:30 No.18634219 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18634272 >>18634397 >>18634474 >>18634968

Is Staraptor underrated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:12:29 No.18634257 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:13:09 No.18634267 Report

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They aren't even rated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:13:31 No.18634272 Report

Quoted By: >>18634517

>>18634219
It was considered the best early route bird for five generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:13:31 No.18634273 Report

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It's pretty shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:14:22 No.18634289 Report

Quoted By: >>18634308 >>18634333

>Not using Adamant Staraptor holding life orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:14:35 No.18634294 Report

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Staraptor sucks anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:15:09 No.18634304 Report

Quoted By: >>18634317

Muh Bird Spam teams
Muh win condition
Muh wall breaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:15:38 No.18634308 Report

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>>18634289
>using staraptor at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:15:47 No.18634310 Report

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Staraptor is truly the bravest bird.

Fuck Talonflame. Braviary's cool, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:16:05 No.18634317 Report

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>>18634304
This. Staraptor is good now that Talonflame and M-Pinsir exist. Double Bird is the new Double Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:16:53 No.18634333 Report

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>>18634289
>not using jolly to make up for staraptor's shitty speed and bulk
>using staraptor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:17:09 No.18634343 Report

Quoted By: >>18634368 >>18634436 >>18634481 >>18634537

I run Adamant 252Atk 252Spd 4HP BB/Close Combat/U-turn/Steel Wing (muh fairies) with Choice Band.

Am I doing something wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:17:57 No.18634357 Report

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Something that's shit can't be underrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:18:33 No.18634368 Report

Quoted By: >>18634475

Staraptor hits ridiculously hard and has been BL for every gen it has existed. It's pretty good.

>>18634343
>(muh fairies)
Any fairy is going to be hit harder by your STABs than by Steel Wing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:21:11 No.18634397 Report

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>>18634219
>mfw Staraptor has always been my favorite bird
>he was my first shiny
>chained him it platinum
>Named Ace and trained to lvl100
>mfw my bro is finally good
thank you based god

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:24:01 No.18634436 Report

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>>18634343
>steel wing
>not return
thats dumb anon change it now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:25:59 No.18634464 Report

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I run Adamant with a Scarf with BB/CC/U-Turn/Quick Attack. OHKO with BB any Greninja that expects to outspeed it. QA finishes of Talons that have taken some recoil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:26:36 No.18634474 Report

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>>18634219
its not underrated its overused

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:26:36 No.18634475 Report

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>>18634368
>>18634436
muh Choice Band hyper offense

Unfortunately I'm too lazy to get it to full happiness for Return, I'm a total scrub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:26:55 No.18634481 Report

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>>18634343
Go with quick attack over steel wing, stab priority will save you games.
Brave bird from a CB should be enough to take out most fairies

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:27:38 No.18634491 Report

Quoted By: >>18634500 >>18634512 >>18634523 >>18634543 >>18634572 >>18634624 >>18634635

THE GREAT DEBATE

Intimidate or Reckless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:28:27 No.18634500 Report

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>>18634491
Reckless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:29:21 No.18634512 Report

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>>18634491
Staraptor will never have the bulk for Reckless and it already hits hard as it stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:29:34 No.18634517 Report

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>>18634272
>has only existed for three generations
u wot m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:30:23 No.18634523 Report

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>>18634491
Reckless, staraptor doesn't have the bulk to pull of intimidate.
You want staraptor denting your opponents team as much as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:30:48 No.18634529 Report

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>>18634512
What does bulk have to do with Reckless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:31:01 No.18634537 Report

Quoted By: >>18634559 >>18634602

>>18634343
Yeah, two things.
Steel Wing is useless as a neutral Brave Bird hits fairies much harder, so use Double Edge for electric types. Also Jolly is needed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:31:33 No.18634543 Report

Quoted By: >>18634559

>Packing Return
>Not using Double-Edge

That's not very brave.

>>18634491
>ever not using Reckless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:32:37 No.18634559 Report

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>>18634537
>>18634543
>not Quick Attack
>in the gen of priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:33:47 No.18634572 Report

Quoted By: >>18634602

>>18634491
I typically use Staraptor as a quickie sacrifice, so Intimidate helps, especially in the Maison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:35:27 No.18634602 Report

Quoted By: >>18634621

>>18634572
The only way staraptor should be KOd is from its own recoil.

>>18634537
>Not going scarf adamant to avoid all those speed ties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:36:43 No.18634621 Report

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>>18634602
Yeah well my Staraptor is muh bro and genning a Reckless just wouldn't feel the same ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:37:07 No.18634624 Report

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>>18634491
Reckless for Singles.
Intimidate for Doubles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:37:50 No.18634635 Report

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>>18634491
>tfw sticking Intimidate Staraptor in the middle in a Triple Battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:42:39 No.18634701 Report

Quoted By: >>18634736 >>18634750 >>18634834 >>18634869

Why does Staraptor suffer from fourth move syndrome so badly?

You have Brave Bird, Close Combat, and U-turn as the obvious.

But then the fourth move is always fucking impossible. You have Return/Double-Edge/Quick Attack/Retaliate/Steel Wing for scrubs

Why can't it just get something definitive for that last slot? Why must Staraptor forever be tormented like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:44:55 No.18634736 Report

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>>18634701
The definitive answer for the last slot is Double Edge. There's no reason not to run it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:46:15 No.18634750 Report

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>>18634701
Double-Edge easily.
It's like you don't even want to OHKO those washing machines anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:48:53 No.18634779 Report

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this thing THKO'S max defensive Hippowdon. Easily best regional bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:49:31 No.18634788 Report

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OG Brave bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:49:57 No.18634793 Report

Quoted By: >>18634820

>best bird
>not Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:51:47 No.18634820 Report

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>>18634793
>muh priority
252 Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Mew: 213-252 (52.7 - 62.3%)
252 Atk Choice Band Reckless Staraptor Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Mew: 331-391 (81.9 - 96.7%)

Best boid is Mandibuzz anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:52:55 No.18634834 Report

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>>18634701
Switcheroo would be a cool future addition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:55:33 No.18634864 Report

Quoted By: >>18634908 >>18634935

Is Scarfed Staraptor and Banded Talonflame the best combo of the two?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:56:06 No.18634869 Report

Quoted By: >>18634904

>>18634701
>Why does Staraptor suffer from fourth move syndrome so badly?
>implying
Double Edge is the only move it needs for the last slot, period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:58:47 No.18634904 Report

Quoted By: >>18634922 >>18634931

>>18634869
Have fun dying in the priority gen :^).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:58:56 No.18634908 Report

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>>18634864
Both of them need to be Banded. Gale Wings already covers speed creep so you don't need to put a Scarf on Staraptor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 02:00:03 No.18634922 Report

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>>18634904
Bird Spam teams use CB because Talonflame and Mega Pinsir already have priority.

Staraptor is to break down anything that stands in their way, and Band is needed for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 02:00:42 No.18634931 Report

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>>18634904
Good luck killing anything with your worthless Quick Attack :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 02:01:02 No.18634935 Report

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>>18634864
Band or Life Orb on Staraptor, you don't need speed, you need power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2014 02:03:28 No.18634968 Report

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>>18634219
>using double bird instead of triple

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