Ok /vp i remember alot of threads back in gen 5 saying that Ho-oh was shit, and even if it dropped to OU and rocks were easy to remove it'd probably fall into UU based on usage.

X/Y come out and defog is a thing now, Ho-oh is still uber but we have his retarded cousin Talonflame who is a top threat in OU even though it comes nowhere near the amount of bulk or power that Ho-oh provides.

So does anyone still think Ho-oh would suck if it somehow fell into OU?