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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:12:35 No.18744903 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18744981 >>18745082 >>18745134 >>18746070 >>18746112 >>18746595

Dear /vp/, I hate this bird and I can't beat it because I suck at competitive battling, and it's really starting to make me hate living. How do I kill it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:17:34 No.18744947 Report

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Find a Pokemon that resists fire and flying and then put a rock move on it. The more unexpected it is the more likely Talonflame is to stay in. For example I run ancientpower Heatran. Usage stats indicate that only 3.6% of Heatrans run ancientpower, so most people don't bother switching Talonflame out and try to damage race me only to die next turn. Talonflame with roost would win the damage race against a standard Heatran, so most people see no reason to bring Talonflame back.

Ancientpower also lets Heatran beat variants of Charizard Y that lack Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:20:24 No.18744981 Report

Quoted By: >>18745033 >>18745440 >>18745586 >>18745679 >>18746457

>>18744903
Golem.
Onix (Eviolite for extra fun)
Greninja (water shuriken)
Extreme speed.
Sashed extreme speed pikachu with 0 def IV's and 0 HP IV's
Dragonite.
Aegislash.
Rotom.
Sucker Punch.
Vaporeon.
Lanturn.
Gastrodon.
Quagsire.
Rocky helmet rough skin garchomp w/ stone miss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:25:59 No.18745033 Report

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>>18744981
>aggron not on the list
>list sucks

stealh rock aggron with stone edge is die beste solution for talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:31:21 No.18745082 Report

Quoted By: >>18745117

>>18744903
Rock tomb Chomp. If it stays in it's dead, if opponent does the usual and switches to something which outspeeds Chomp, they will no longer outspeed it and most likely die the next turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:34:25 No.18745114 Report

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Stealth Rock is a must.
Then you can either A. spam Hurricane/Roar/Dragon Tail so it hilariously dies to it or B. find someone with enough bulk that can resist either flying or fire and use Stone Edge or anything similar to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:34:50 No.18745117 Report

Quoted By: >>18745186

>>18745082
I like the way you think

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:36:39 No.18745134 Report

Quoted By: >>18746070

>>18744903
Try to get it banned, that's how Smogonfags deal with Pokémon they can't beat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:40:46 No.18745171 Report

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Max hp/def soak alomomola with stealth rock
>m-muh stab

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 19:43:27 No.18745186 Report

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>>18745117
Seriously, with some prediction skillz, this fucker is insanely good. Catches so many things on the switch. The obvious Ice Shard users aside, most things that switch into it are faster Pokes, Flying types expecting EQ and Levitators, namely Rotom, whose WoW I use as a free SD boost thanks to Lum Berry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:06:06 No.18745415 Report

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Rocks you moron
Talonflame is breakable and even more so since people run Life Orbs on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:08:22 No.18745440 Report

Quoted By: >>18745532 >>18745586 >>18745651

>>18744981
4x resists Brave Bird, and 2x resist fire moves
>not listed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:18:49 No.18745532 Report

Quoted By: >>18745651

>>18745440
There is no electric/rock type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:20:11 No.18745544 Report

Quoted By: >>18745580

>ctrl+f zapdos
>not found
it's like nobody wants to cockblock flyspam teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:24:55 No.18745580 Report

Quoted By: >>18745725

>>18745544
Flare Blitz is still a very powerful move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:25:10 No.18745586 Report

Quoted By: >>18745651

>>18745440
If you're talking about Aggron, it's neutral to fire m8.

>>18744981
>none of the water/rock types that resist BB and double resist FB

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:31:20 No.18745651 Report

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>>18745440
>>18745532
>>18745586
I had a brain fart. I was supposed to say 4x resist fire moves, 2x resist Brave Bird;

as well as dealing either 2x damage via water moves, or 4x SE via rock moves

captcha: Pacific ousTirs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:34:33 No.18745679 Report

Quoted By: >>18746024

>>18744981
>sucker punch
>against one of the fastest pokemon (19 place)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:40:23 No.18745725 Report

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>>18745580
zapdos can still tank 2+ atk flare blitz and counter with a thunderbolt, unless you're an idiot and you let him set up more than 2 SD on you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:43:18 No.18745746 Report

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rocky helmet + toxic + self healing move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:44:32 No.18745754 Report

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>>18745725
>not letting it set up just so you can send in ditto because everyone forgets that it was shit hp and 5pp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 20:54:51 No.18745805 Report

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Zapdos is my favorite way of dealing with Talonflame. It's also great for getting rid of Scizor, Ferrothorn and Forretress since it gets Heat Wave. Just give it some Def EVs or else Talonflame's Flare Blitz will 2HKO it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:14:20 No.18745959 Report

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Regenerator Corsola with Rocky Helmet and Power Gem.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:21:08 No.18746019 Report

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>Switch to Blissey
>Talonflame used Bravest Burd / Flare Blitz
>Talonflame pretty much kills itself because of the recoil damage
>Life Orb damage for increased lulz
>Rocky Helmet Blissey for maximum keks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:21:26 No.18746024 Report

Quoted By: >>18746124

>>18745679
>sucker punch
>caring about speed

Any steel-type with Sucker Punch destroys Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:28:18 No.18746070 Report

Quoted By: >>18746082

>>18745134
>Banning a one-trick pony with a tiny-ass movepool
ebin

>>18744903
Use just about any rock type. Corsola can hardcounter talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:29:11 No.18746076 Report

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you suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:29:56 No.18746082 Report

Quoted By: >>18746119

>>18746070
>U-Turn
>SD
>Flare Blitz
>BB
>priority roost
it has other moves as well, those are just the most common ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:33:53 No.18746112 Report

Quoted By: >>18746630

>>18744903

Are you fucking serious?

Of all the threats to the meta, new and old, this one trick pony is what gets you? Are you using a team full of frail bugs and fighting types?

>What is Heatran
>What is sneaky pebbles?
>What is a fucking Rotom Wash?
>What is Tyranitar?
>What is anything even somewhat bulky that can tank the BB and 1 shot it's frail defenses?

>What is basic thinking?

At least the Gliscor thread had some legitimacy; christ on a bicycle...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:35:02 No.18746119 Report

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>>18746082
You're missing WoW and Taunt.

None of its other moves are viable at all.
inb4:
>Solarbeam
>Bulk Up
>Flame Charge
>Special Anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 21:35:57 No.18746124 Report

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>>18746024
holy shit please let this be bait

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:26:14 No.18746457 Report

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>>18744981
>physical greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:27:51 No.18746479 Report

Quoted By: >>18746486 >>18746584

I believe we can all agree that Talonflame is Gamefreak's biggest mistake, ever.

lola !xDf.K7qsL6

lola !xDf.K7qsL6 Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:28:56 No.18746486 Report

Quoted By: >>18746603

>>18746479
>Choice Band Pinsir
Not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:31:29 No.18746506 Report

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>Cofagrigus
>Barbaracle
>Pretty much any rock type

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:37:00 No.18746551 Report

Quoted By: >>18746576

>not running Corsola
>2014
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-106189931

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corsola: 93-111 (29.6 - 35.3%) -- 21.2% chance to 3HKO
With Regenerator, you heal that off by simply switching out.

0 SpA Corsola Power Gem vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 336-396 (112.7 - 132.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Corsola Ancient Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 252-300 (84.5 - 100.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Ancient Power OHKOs after Rocky Helmet/BB recoil.

Abzu

Abzu Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:37:40 No.18746556 Report

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Stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:40:32 No.18746576 Report

Quoted By: >>18746591

>>18746551

There was a guy earlier today running a corsola for the same reason that showderp ran into. He got wrecked.

Team Flare Boss Lysandre !2DrkZFLarE

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Team Flare Boss Lysandre !2DrkZFLarE Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:40:58 No.18746579 Report

Quoted By: >>18746589 >>18746621

Look

Look at this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:41:25 No.18746584 Report

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>>18746479
Mega Kangaskhan takes that title by a lot.

Talonflame is good but it's not broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:42:01 No.18746589 Report

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>>18746579
Lysandre-kun!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:42:15 No.18746591 Report

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>>18746576
I only lost the first match, when I happened upon Showderp a second time I narrowly won.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:42:57 No.18746595 Report

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>>18744903
You dont , you just kill yourself
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:43:29 No.18746603 Report

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>>18746486
If you're running that kind of set, a priority brave bird is going to wreck Pinsir anyways. 50% chance to OHKO with an attacking nature or a guaranteed 2HKO, 100% if banded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:44:20 No.18746611 Report

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What is Quagsire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:45:37 No.18746621 Report

Quoted By: >>18746632

>>18746579
Check all three posts to see my responce, Stop. Using. This image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:46:39 No.18746630 Report

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>>18746112

Did I not say that I sucked at competitive battling

Please let this poor soul get by with fake baiting

Abzu

Abzu Fri 04 Apr 2014 22:46:43 No.18746632 Report

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>>18746621
Forgot my name

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