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ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:04:24 No.18769324 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18769356 >>18769669 >>18769672 >>18769789 >>18769895

Why in the fuck did the creators think that making the new type fairy instead of light was a good idea? Since when are fairies capable of defeating dragons? Discuss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:06:59 No.18769356 Report

Quoted By: >>18769926

>>18769324
>every single fantasy thing I've read portrays fairies as walking magical death creatures
Fairies are some of the most dangerous things I've seen in most of the fantasy I've read, what the hell have you been reading?

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:11:59 No.18769397 Report

Quoted By: >>18769437 >>18769461

Dragon has always been one of the most powerful types in the game, and don't get me wrong, i'm all for leveling the playing field, but light would be a much more fitting type to be stronger than dragon, but all fairy was (besides gay) is a way to retype a bunch of other shit and appeal to the female demographic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:16:37 No.18769437 Report

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>>18769397
>fairy=gay=bad
And with that, that let's me know that I'm not going to waist my time here. Have a fun thread arguing with yourself. You're either a shitposter or someone who's not going to bother listening because you must OBVIOUSLY have the only right opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:18:01 No.18769458 Report

Quoted By: >>18769494 >>18769509

Would you let Sylveon give you a bowjob?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:18:14 No.18769461 Report

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>>18769397
The doors are over there, see yourself >>>/out/, please.

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:18:40 No.18769468 Report

Quoted By: >>18769499

all i'm saying is that light would have been a better choice, which is what i'm looking to discuss. defend your point of view

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:20:49 No.18769494 Report

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>>18769458
>bowjob

We need to wrap these puns up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:21:28 No.18769499 Report

Quoted By: >>18769562

>>18769468
Fine, then how about this? How does Fairy NOT already cover light? It's like saying there should be a bird type, and/or an arachnid type. Flying and bug already cover those, so there's no need. Fairy already covers light as a whole (how the hell is Xerneas or Gardevoir fairy? answer, they're light and fairy covers that). Also, if your argument is actually that "fairy is gay" or some shit like that, then there's no point in you even posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:21:50 No.18769509 Report

Quoted By: >>18769519

>>18769458
Anon that's against Sharia law

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:22:31 No.18769519 Report

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>>18769509
fuck the police

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:24:55 No.18769538 Report

Quoted By: >>18769562 >>18769567

the creators go for generalization, making fairy cover light type is like calling flying bird type and expecting it to cover everything that isn't a bird but still flies. fairy is more specific

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:24:57 No.18769540 Report

Quoted By: >>18769561

>He thinks the Dark type means absence of light.

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:27:11 No.18769561 Report

Quoted By: >>18769710 >>18769745 >>18769839

>>18769540
everthing has its equal. fire and water, flying and electric, light would be darks equal and opposite

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:27:13 No.18769562 Report

Quoted By: >>18769599

>>18769538
>making fairy cover light type is like calling flying bird type

...Isn't that what >>18769499 was trying to say?

>It's like saying there should be a bird type, and/or an arachnid type. Flying and bug already cover those, so there's no need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:27:35 No.18769567 Report

Quoted By: >>18769624 >>18769625

>>18769538
They can both encompass each other. Something else that just occurred to be to is that if you're thinking light to counter/oppose dark, remember that dark isn't actually dark, it's evil type. Opposite of evil I'd say is fairy too, fairy's being a universal good and all

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:28:41 No.18769599 Report

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>>18769562
i was saying that making the new type fairy is the same as making flying bird type, try to read a post before you shit on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:29:58 No.18769624 Report

Quoted By: >>18769643 >>18769652 >>18769693

>>18769567
a lot of folklore fairies were huge assholes though

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:30:13 No.18769625 Report

Quoted By: >>18769643

>>18769567
first semi-decent reply of this thread, way to go, there may be hope for you yet. so why not call dark demon type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:30:26 No.18769628 Report

Quoted By: >>18769658

I'm pretty sure all the people who oppose the Fairy type are butthurt their epic stronk edgy dragons are weak to something cutesy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:31:46 No.18769643 Report

Quoted By: >>18769662

>>18769624
In the same sense as, say, elves. They're dicks, but because they feel superior. They're not evil and still want the greater good, they just tend to think of themselves as better than humans.

>>18769625
Because not all demons are evil? Seriously what fantasy do you read to have none of this already thought of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:32:27 No.18769652 Report

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>>18769624
Dark/Fairy type when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:33:10 No.18769658 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769628
>fight a whole team of ubers
>fight goes well the whole time
>Send in Cinccino and KO half his team with it
>disconnect
Yeah, people get pretty pissy when something cute beats something that's supposed to be an unbeatable powerhouse or something

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:33:21 No.18769662 Report

Quoted By: >>18769671

>>18769643
and not all fairies are good either. hell, people were terrified of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:34:45 No.18769669 Report

Quoted By: >>18769865

>>18769324
I saw my gay cousin beat up an iguana once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:34:52 No.18769671 Report

Quoted By: >>18770133

>>18769662
People being afraid of something doesn't make it bad or evil. Again, demons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:34:55 No.18769672 Report

Quoted By: >>18769701 >>18769743 >>18769938

>>18769324
The fact that they added an entirely new type is what gets me. It's was completely unnecessary.

With X and Y, Gamefreak showed that they have no problem changing type match ups by making Ghost and Dark moves neutral against Steel.

Gamefreak had a problem with Dragon, and to a less extent, Fighting types. Why didn't they just make Ice resist Dragon attacks and make Fighting attacks neutral against Ice. That would have balanced the game immensely, without having to add a new type. While we're at it, give Ice types a 50% defense boost in the Hail like Sandstorm boosts the special defense of Rock types.

Now Ice doesn't suck. Was that so tough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:37:33 No.18769693 Report

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>>18769624
Except that Gamefreak paid very little heed to any of the vast variety of fairy folklore for any of the fairy type designs. They could have called it the Anal Sex type and it'd make almost as much sense.

ANONOMAN

ANONOMAN Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:38:26 No.18769701 Report

Quoted By: >>18769767

>>18769672
congrats on the being the only person willing to contribute an original argument to the thread.
i would have been perfectly ok with this, and it makes more sense than adding a new type, i think they do it to add novelty to the game. like adding dark and steel weren't entirely necessary, but it was still cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:39:15 No.18769710 Report

Quoted By: >>18769719 >>18769745 >>18769762

>>18769561
Listen you shit: The "Dark" type is not called Dark in japanese, it's called Evil, and light is not the opposite of evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:39:51 No.18769719 Report

Quoted By: >>18769746

>>18769710

Call it Holy type then

Anon

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Anon Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:41:43 No.18769741 Report

Quoted By: >>18772028

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:42:08 No.18769743 Report

Quoted By: >>18769783

>>18769672
>Fire, Steel, Rock

it still sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:42:21 No.18769745 Report

Quoted By: >>18769766

>>18769561
>>18769710
And besides I don't get what are you trying to accomplish with that comment. What is the opposite of Steel? What is the opposite of Poison? Why do they even need to be opposites?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:42:22 No.18769746 Report

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>>18769719
There are no "good and evil" types though.

Fairy just means the mystical, magical essence.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:43:26 No.18769762 Report

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>>18769710
>Evil type
>MFW
No wonder the changed it to dark

Anon

Anon Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:44:13 No.18769766 Report

Quoted By: >>18769781

>>18769745
its not about opposites, really, its about balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:44:19 No.18769767 Report

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>>18769701
>adding dark and steel weren't entirely necessary
Dark and Steel were VERY necessary.

In gen1, psychic types dominated everything and dark and steel types were brought in to balance shit out. Steel resisted psychic, dark was totally immune, and both were weak to fighting, a type that was completely useless back then.

Simply changing the old type match ups would not have been enough to balance everything out here, because there would have been too many changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:46:04 No.18769781 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769766
This thread is not about balance, it's about the purpose behind the name of the newest type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:46:16 No.18769783 Report

Quoted By: >>18769797

>>18769743
>weak to Fire, Steel, Rock
>resists Dragon and Ice, two of the most powerful offensive types
I don't know, I'd say that's fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:47:19 No.18769789 Report

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>>18769324
because boys aren't allowed to hit girls, duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:48:51 No.18769797 Report

Quoted By: >>18769875

>>18769783
>2 resists

not enough. let it resist rock (instead of fighting), normal, flying, grass, water, electric, among those you have mentioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:49:15 No.18769802 Report

Quoted By: >>18769816 >>18769850

They should've made Lumineon or Lighteon instead of Sylveon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:50:42 No.18769816 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769802
>Lumineon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:54:20 No.18769839 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769561
>everthing has its equal
>before Fairy there wasn't even an even number of types
Also in that case, Fairy is Dragon's "equal"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:55:54 No.18769850 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769802
Eoneon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:58:21 No.18769865 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769669

fucking this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 02:59:55 No.18769875 Report

Quoted By: >>18769879

>>18769797
All I'm saying is, let's say the changes I described were introduced for X/Y, and the Fairy type never existed.

252 Atk Choice Band Garchomp Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 67-80 (17 - 20.3%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

I changed Avalugg's second type to Steel for the sake of the calculation there. Can't tell me that's not awesome. Walrein and Mamoswine would be great too, especially since both get Thick Fat to help with the Fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:00:38 No.18769879 Report

Quoted By: >>18769896

>>18769875
>changed Avalugg's second type to Steel
give me a reason

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:02:53 No.18769895 Report

Quoted By: >>18769917

>>18769324
because in fairytales, the hero beats the evil dragon.
more than this, fairy tales is commonly abbout weak beating the strong. it make sense that fairies take it up against the tyrant of childrens battles.
next in gen 7: fairy/dragon 'malicifient'

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:03:06 No.18769896 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769879
So the damage calc would think it's a not very effective attack for the sake of my argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:05:20 No.18769917 Report

Quoted By: >>18769998

>>18769895
Then why aren't dragons weak to steel? It's what the hero stabs the dragon with, a metal sword.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:06:18 No.18769926 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769356
THIS.
Plus, Fairies in lore are actually harmed by metal, justifying the weakness in pkmn.
>tfw I named my Xerneas Oberon, my Florges Iolanthe, and my Azumarill Titania.
Thinking about breeding a Whimsicott and name him Puck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:07:20 No.18769938 Report

Quoted By: >>18770033

>>18769672
There is still the fact that Poison and Steel are dung

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:13:51 No.18769998 Report

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>>18769917
only a hero weilding a word would be effective against dragons. normal soldiers won't.
(unless that 'normal soldier' is the youngest son of seven or something)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:17:01 No.18770033 Report

Quoted By: >>18770063

>>18769938
Poison is not as bad as it used to be. The only real weakness it has to watch out for is Ground. Psychic attacks are definitely not as common as the used to be. And they did get a buff (albeit a tiny one) in gen 6. Toxic will always hit if used by a Poison type.

And you're calling Steel dung? The type with 10 resistances and 1 immunity? Really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:19:14 No.18770063 Report

Quoted By: >>18770186 >>18770250

>>18770033
Offensively, it's a less better version of Fighting, so yes, it's dung

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:23:51 No.18770133 Report

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>>18769671
Would you consider, say, the Slenderman good or evil? No, you'd consider him fucking terrifying.

What we call "fairy tales" today, people from which those tales originate would consider "horror".

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5

Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:28:10 No.18770186 Report

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>>18770063
offensive isn't the only way to play pokemon.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 03:33:39 No.18770250 Report

Quoted By:

>>18770063
>I have never faced a Bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 07:40:14 No.18772028 Report

Quoted By:

>>18769741
>2014
>Not using WebM
>>>/g/ would be disapointed

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