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This set still good? Didn't play battle sims since gen4

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 12:19:19 No.18772827 View View Reply Original Report

@Toxic Orb / Magic Guard

- Wish
- Belly Drum
- Facade
- Fire Punch / xxx

I wrecked shit with this back in Gen4, could it be used again?
Breeding now is legally possible thanks to chaining Poliwhirl -> Marril -> new fairy puff thing -> Clefairy

Any opinions on the moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 12:22:25 No.18772834 Report

Quoted By: >>18772848

it sounds good but no stab

and what is its ev spread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 12:22:55 No.18772835 Report

Quoted By: >>18772848

>>18772827
Clefable is pure fairy type now so Facade lost STAB. That's a pretty big lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 12:29:34 No.18772848 Report

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>>18772835
I'm playing Gen6 since 2 days, any good Fairy alternatives?

Facade had Base Power 70, 140 when poisoned, so we'd have to at least start from 90 base power to reach that level.

Play Rough would be the only alternative, but Clefable cannot learn it. So we'll have to stick to Facade or look for something else.

I also forgot Fire Punch can be changed for Protect, to get the poison going before the opponent can do anything about it. Thing is, then the coverage is much much worse and ghosts can wreck you.

Switching kinda blows the setup, and if the enemy knows it's over anyway - this set lives from the surprise, Clefable was kinda underestimated.

>>18772834
EV Spread is pretty much tastes, mine was 252 HP /252 Atk/ 4 Def, but one could go for 252 Def instead.

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Nagisa - 2165-6308-1307 Mon 07 Apr 2014 13:10:39 No.18773025 Report

Quoted By: >>18773289

bitch please

Leftovers / Magic Guard

Wish
Flamethrower (because fuck steel types)
Moonblast
cosmic power

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 14:06:55 No.18773289 Report

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>>18773025
>Leftovers

Enjoy your Paraflinching.

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