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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:27:03 No.18776747 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18776918 >>18777125 >>18777505

I was thinking of training Mega Heracross. What sets do you suggest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:27:48 No.18776754 Report

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You can't train a mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:28:16 No.18776761 Report

Quoted By: >>18776775 >>18776776 >>18776779 >>18776799

Close Combat
Pin Missle
Rock Blast
Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:28:29 No.18776764 Report

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Rock Blast, Pin Missle, and run it on a Baton Pass team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:29:51 No.18776775 Report

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>>18776761
This. Replace Close Combat with Arm Thrust when it gets buffed to 25 base power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:29:54 No.18776776 Report

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>>18776761
I would slash Swords Dance next to Close Combat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:30:18 No.18776779 Report

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>>18776761
I like this set. What about nature and EV's?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:31:52 No.18776799 Report

Quoted By: >>18776832 >>18776834

>>18776761
Srop EQ for SD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:31:55 No.18776800 Report

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>>18776779
Nature: Adamant
EVs: maximum Attack, enough Speed to outspeed Adamant Bisharp, the rest in HP

40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:34:18 No.18776832 Report

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>>18776799
>walled by sward
No thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:34:22 No.18776834 Report

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>>18776799
Enjoy getting shat on by Spookysword m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:42:25 No.18776918 Report

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>>18776747
Fast, physical attacker. So many people get thrown off and fucked up by not expecting a speed trained megacross, and it's naturally bulky enough to at least take a hit before going down.

Move would be Pin Missle, Rock Blast, Arm Thrust, and Bullet Seed. Have fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:47:04 No.18776972 Report

Quoted By: >>18776984

>>18776918
>Move would be Pin Missle, Rock Blast, Arm Thrust, and Bullet Seed
>le smogonsword faec

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:48:11 No.18776984 Report

Quoted By: >>18777018 >>18777098

>>18776972
>Gets walled by one thing
>lel it must be shit
Just have backup on the rest of your team, that's why you've got more than one mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:49:37 No.18776997 Report

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>>18776918
Close Combat>Arm Thrust
Bullet Seed doesn't really hit anything notable besides Rotom-W who takes an assload from Pin Missle anyway. Earthquake is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:52:00 No.18777018 Report

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>>18776984
>Walled by one of the most common Pokemon in the game
>Not a problem

Because perfect neutral coverage is bad, right? Why do you exactly need Bullet Seed on Heracross anyway? And why do some people suggest Swords Dance? It has 185 base Attack for fucks sake along with 120 and 125 BP STAB moves, it's going to hit like a truck even unboosted. Just go for perfect coverage all-out attacking set because that's the best it can do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 20:59:31 No.18777084 Report

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>People suggesting Arm thrust over CC

shiggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:00:11 No.18777091 Report

Quoted By: >>18777136

>252 SpA Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Heracross: 139-165 (38.1 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

>252+ Atk Mega Heracross Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 244 HP / 0- Def Aegislash-Blade: 190-225 (59 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

I don't see what the problem is. Just run 0 speed IVs so you can hit the blade forme. Most Aegislash run at least 12 speed EVs anyway to outrun Tyranitar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:00:35 No.18777098 Report

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>>18776984
>Giving Aegislash a free turn whatsoever

Conklederp

Conklederp Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:03:22 No.18777125 Report

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>>18776747
>INB4 Talonflame used Brave Bird! It's supereffective! Mega Heracross fainted!
Anon is all out of usable Pokemon. Anon whited out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:04:00 No.18777136 Report

Quoted By: >>18777183

>>18777091
>244 HP / 0- Def Aegislash

Nice calculations there m8 :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:05:03 No.18777148 Report

Quoted By: >>18777156 >>18777181

252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Sp, Def
Adamant

Pin Missile, Bullet Seed, Rock Blast, EQ

No close combat because those moves pretty much cover what CC would

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:06:11 No.18777156 Report

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>>18777148
And give original Heraross Guts as ability, just in case you get burned.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:07:37 No.18777181 Report

Quoted By: >>18777223 >>18777262 >>18777302

>>18777148
>mfw Bug/Rock/Ground/Grass have better coverage than Bug/Rock/Ground/Fighting

Wasn't Grass supposed to be the shitty attacking type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:07:37 No.18777183 Report

Quoted By: >>18777224

>>18777136
>252+ Atk Mega Heracross Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 170-200 (52.4 - 61.7%) -- approx. 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Conklederp

Conklederp Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:09:55 No.18777223 Report

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>>18777181
More like support from the move list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:10:00 No.18777224 Report

Quoted By: >>18777234

>>18777183
>Aegislash-Blade

252+ Atk Mega Heracross Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Aegislash-Shield: 70-85 (21.6 - 26.2%) -- approx. 0.6% chance to 4HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:11:07 No.18777234 Report

Quoted By: >>18777250

>>18777224
You didn't read through my original post did you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:12:49 No.18777250 Report

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>>18777234
You didn't realize that Adamant 0 IV Mega Heracross is faster than Brave/Quiet Aegislash with 31 IVs did you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:13:42 No.18777262 Report

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>>18777181
It's a bit funny yeah.
Rock Blast, Pin Missile and EQ hit 4/5 for SE dmg what CC would.
Sure CC is also viable option for raw power

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:17:58 No.18777302 Report

Quoted By: >>18777339

>>18777181
It's marginally better SE coverage but you're giving up a powerful STAB move. Bullet Seed doesn't really cover up any weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:21:40 No.18777339 Report

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>>18777302
But it does wreck Rotom-W, which is always nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:22:41 No.18777349 Report

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>>18777339
so pin missile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:25:54 No.18777381 Report

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>>18777349
252+ Atk Mega Heracross Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 210-245 (69 - 80.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Mega Heracross Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 280-330 (92.1 - 108.5%) -- approx. 37.5% chance to OHKO

Yeah, it isn't even a guaranteed OHKO which is a bit surprising.

Does anyone even run physically defensive Rotom-W?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:28:49 No.18777410 Report

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>>18777381
>Sub 1600 on ladder

Yes, with the special "nerf" this gen, physical attackers are a lot more prominent, and with Rotom being an excellent counter to Talonflame, It'll run a spread that'll make it easier to take hits from. Spdef rotom is a thing of the past.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:41:20 No.18777505 Report

Quoted By: >>18777510

>>18776747
Where do you faggts get the Megas Dream World artwork?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:42:23 No.18777510 Report

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>>18777505
Dream World

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2014 21:46:57 No.18777548 Report

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>>18777510
Is this thing still working?

Never used it anyway

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