>>18785066So moves are not allowed to have an application other than battling? I can see why you would think that, but I'm not going to say it shouldn't exist, just that it shouldn't be so problematic. In fact, is it even necessary at all anymore? Junk is blocked off by things other than HM obstacles now. All they're used for is hiding items most of the time. Most of these are the BS junk that was used to put an evo on something that didn't originally have one. Can't they make these available in a different way? (or do what they should've done and retcon this junk from the ground up) As for applying other moves in other ways, that may be something to explore in a spinoff.