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Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 13:54:23 No.18815833 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18815843 >>18815844 >>18815878

will my bro ever be good?

I wish he had more bulk. is it viable to run anything on it other than leftovers?
he needs a recovery move or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 13:55:50 No.18815843 Report

Quoted By: >>18815853

>>18815833
... Are you for a single second implying that Dynamic Punch and No Guard isn't great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 13:55:55 No.18815844 Report

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>>18815833
mycramp is fine, but the only real reason to use him is no guard. conk does guts better. and assault vest might be good, dunno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 13:57:58 No.18815853 Report

Quoted By: >>18815861

>>18815843
it is great but

>opponent switches to ghost type
>substitute
how do I recover without leftovers and also I dont want to just switch out also that just means I lose a turn and get will-o-wisped

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:00:19 No.18815861 Report

Quoted By: >>18815875

>>18815853
if you're that scared of will-o-wisp just use a lum berry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:03:26 No.18815875 Report

Quoted By: >>18816746

>>18815861
hmmm I suppose I could switch in a fire-type or something. but rather than switching I would hope for a move to regain health. I could use a ferrothrorn for setting up and leech seed so machamp can switch in an substitute while also getting back health

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:03:59 No.18815878 Report

Quoted By: >>18815893 >>18815922 >>18816097

>>18815833

AssVest is nice.

Also, here's something to digest. AssVest Machamp can survive a Psychic coming from LO Alakazam and 2HKO back (Knock-off and Bullet Punch). Conkel can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:08:06 No.18815893 Report

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>>18815878
I'll try this since i'm not running toxic anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:22:16 No.18815922 Report

Quoted By: >>18815930

>>18815878
what nature and EVs would that be running?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 14:24:08 No.18815930 Report

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>>18815922
252 HP/Atk and Adamant. What else would you run..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 15:02:17 No.18816057 Report

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Might be just me but I love Rock slide/Earth Quake on him, it tends to cut through ghosts pretty easy especially with lum berry.

Bullet Punch is okay too for those sub uses.

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simsims2800 !6X4GA0MgZA Fri 11 Apr 2014 15:10:35 No.18816097 Report

Quoted By: >>18816705

>>18815878
Why would they use Psychic?
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 421-499 (109.6 - 129.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
and
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Machamp: 299-354 (77.8 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

With just a bit of prior damage it dies anyways, and it is too crippled to do anything else.
Also
252+ Atk Machamp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 434-512 (172.2 - 203.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

and
252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 460-542 (182.5 - 215%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 273-322 (77.5 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 367-432 (104.2 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 16:41:01 No.18816705 Report

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>>18816097
but conkeldurr aint mah nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 16:45:10 No.18816746 Report

Quoted By: >>18816887

>>18815875
cant you teach him a dark type move for ghosts? Or are you stuck with a choice item 100% of the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 17:02:38 No.18816887 Report

Quoted By: >>18816924

>>18816746
if you have any original suggestions like that I'd like to hear it. what movepool would you suggest on machamp to be anti-ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Apr 2014 17:07:19 No.18816924 Report

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>>18816887
Payback. 50bp dark type that turns into a 100bp attack if your opponent moves first.

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