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Ram Dumping Progress.

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:04:43 No.18832667 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18832708 >>18832713 >>18832832 >>18833538 >>18833655

Progress has been made for the ram dumping of X & Y.
According to Kaphotics from Pokemon Project these are the abilities and base stats of Volcanion and Hoopa:
Hoopa:
80/110/60/150/130/70
Ability: Magician

Volcanion:
80/110/120/130/90/70
Ability: Water Absorb

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:06:11 No.18832681 Report

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>Magician

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:08:41 No.18832708 Report

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>>18832667
dem 70 base speeds

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:09:25 No.18832713 Report

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>>18832667

>Magician

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:10:29 No.18832727 Report

Quoted By: >>18832736

>Magician
Hoopa really IS based on a gypsy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:11:02 No.18832731 Report

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These spreads are absolute shit jfc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:11:17 No.18832736 Report

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>>18832727
Oy vey the goyim they know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:12:46 No.18832750 Report

Quoted By: >>18832765

Nice source m8 :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:14:06 No.18832765 Report

Quoted By: >>18832804 >>18832870

>>18832750

[19:43:58] Kaphotics it's magician and 80/110/60/150/130/70
[20:31:53] Kaphotics water absorb
[20:42:22] Kaphotics volcano bst
[20:42:23] Kaphotics 80/110/120/130/90/70

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:15:43 No.18832782 Report

Quoted By: >>18832795 >>18832802 >>18832807 >>18833642

70 speed is really disappointing for Volcanion. Everything else about it makes it like a more offensive version of Heatran.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:17:03 No.18832795 Report

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>>18832782
volcanion heatran core

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:17:25 No.18832800 Report

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At least Volcanion has a decent ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:17:34 No.18832802 Report

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>>18832782
Dat balk doe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:17:36 No.18832804 Report

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>>18832765
>implying there isn't at least 10 sites claiming they know the stats
Nice source again m8 :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:17:42 No.18832807 Report

Quoted By: >>18832812 >>18833061 >>18833575

>>18832782
Isn't the typing worse defensive wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:18:23 No.18832812 Report

Quoted By: >>18832821

>>18832807
>Everything else about it makes it like a more offensive version of Heatran.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:18:25 No.18832813 Report

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Is OP the same smug asshole from GBAtemp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:19:11 No.18832821 Report

Quoted By: >>18833710

>>18832812
Typing =/= Stat spread.
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:19:53 No.18832831 Report

Quoted By: >>18832858

maybe volcanion will be allowed in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:19:59 No.18832832 Report

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>>18832667
How could ram dumping help know those stats? If the pokemon is on ram then you should be able to see the stats directly because you would have the pokemon on your party or boxes.
Calling bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:22:01 No.18832858 Report

Quoted By: >>18832902

>>18832831
I wonder what synergy Volcanion would have with Heatran on a team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:22:16 No.18832861 Report

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>Magician

How utterly disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:22:55 No.18832870 Report

Quoted By: >>18832886

>>18832765
[20:43:16] Kaphotics anon i...
[20:43:56] Kaphotics i just want you to know that I really want to fuck you in your eyesocket
[20:44:05] Kaphotics is that ok for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:24:26 No.18832886 Report

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>>18832870
Kaphotics senpai, that is always okay for us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:25:32 No.18832902 Report

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>>18832858
I don't think either benefits that much from the other. The only benefit I can think of off the top of my head is that Volcanion's water absorb would cover for Heatran's water weakness. Otherwise, Heatran's Flash Fire doesn't benefit Volcanion as it already resists fire x4. They also share the same ground weakness and you just get redundant fire coverage on your team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:42:19 No.18833061 Report

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>>18832807

Water absorb helps it though.

Azumarill counter incoming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:47:56 No.18833108 Report

Quoted By: >>18833122 >>18833128 >>18833331 >>18833417 >>18833607 >>18833653

Welp, let's hope that their movepools will save them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:49:14 No.18833122 Report

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>>18833108
Volcanion is confirmed to have a base 110 power scald signature move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 01:49:42 No.18833128 Report

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>>18833108
Volcanion gets a roided up Scald apparently.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:16:00 No.18833331 Report

Quoted By: >>18833368

>>18833108
>having faith in Gamefreak

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:20:51 No.18833368 Report

Quoted By: >>18833430

>>18833331

>2014
>using gifs instead of the superior webm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:26:25 No.18833417 Report

Quoted By: >>18833560 >>18833671

>>18833108
Volcanion has Super Scald, so I personally think it's OU material. It should make for a nice Assault Vest user and/or Physical tank.

Hoopa... Hoopa needs a miracle. I've been pinning all of my hopes on Hyperspace Hole having the exact same effects as Feint... right down to that sexy, sexy +2 priority that never gets mentioned in-game. And even that might not be enough, given how shitty Psychic is right now. Re-arrange its Attack, Defense, and Speed in pretty much any order and you get an objectively better Pokemon in at least one format 60 base Speed would've been nicer for Trick Room but as it stands now, it's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:27:36 No.18833430 Report

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>>18833368
I'm not going to go and change all my gifs to .webm like some autist.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:37:12 No.18833538 Report

Quoted By: >>18833584

>>18832667

>Dem Hoopa Stats

Did Game Freak forget that Sucker Punch exists? Hell, any tap from a Dark type ruins him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:39:22 No.18833560 Report

Quoted By: >>18833584

>>18833417
Kaphotics (as Hozu) said in a Gamefaqs thread that Hyperspace Hole is just a Phantom Force clone that never misses.

>http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/69015329?page=2
Into the trash it goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:41:01 No.18833575 Report

Quoted By: >>18833671

>>18832807
>4x resists fire, steel, AND ice
>resists fairy, bug,
>immune to water
>only 3 weaknesses, 2 of which can be covered with its water STAB

Nope. The typing kicks ass.
>

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:42:15 No.18833584 Report

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>>18833538
Foul Play is even worse.
4 Atk Klefki Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hoopa: 232-276 (63.7 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That's what it takes from an un-STABbed Foul Play with maximum Defense investment and an absolutely minimized Attack stat. STAB Foul Play is a 75% chance to OHKO.
>>18833560
Sonnovabitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:43:47 No.18833607 Report

Quoted By: >>18833635 >>18833671

>>18833108
Volcanion has Sacred Fire- Water Edition and Hoopa has a 4x Weakness to Knock Off and Shadow Ball with a boosted Psychic type Phantom Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:44:51 No.18833625 Report

Quoted By: >>18833870

I just realized that Volcanion is a perfect counter to Azumarill. It might make it to OU just on that alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:45:35 No.18833635 Report

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>>18833607
That's wrong. Hyperspace Hole is a WEAKER version of Phantom Force.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:46:11 No.18833642 Report

Quoted By: >>18833671

>>18832782
It's actually one of the best checks to Azumarill if this is accurate.

Not only is it immune to one STAB and resists the other, but its faster so it can burn it easily. Keep in mind this is also pretty much the only thing Volcanion can do to Azumarill.

252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 102-120 (28 - 32.9%) -- 87.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Volcanion: 57-67 (15.6 - 18.4%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery

I ran max hp and def because 2/3 of Volcanion's weaknesses come from physical attacks, and should Rotom-W or any Electriic type switch in you can just go for something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:46:50 No.18833653 Report

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>>18833108
>In addition, Phantom Force will never miss and its base power is doubled if the target has used Minimize.
So Hoopa will get Minimize?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:47:11 No.18833655 Report

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>>18832667

>Hoopa
>In the age of M-Kanga

GF just didn't care, did they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:48:36 No.18833671 Report

Quoted By: >>18833724

>>18833642
>>18833607
>>18833575
>>18833417
So Volcanion confirmed for going in dry to OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:50:06 No.18833694 Report

Quoted By: >>18833724 >>18833737 >>18833775

Will Volcanion be the first ever part water-type to NOT learn Ice Beam? I mean, it doesnt look like the type to shoot ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:51:32 No.18833710 Report

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>>18832821
>everything else
Learn to read m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:52:41 No.18833724 Report

Quoted By: >>18833758

>>18833671
Yeah.
>>18833694
Nope. See: Magikarp, Keldeo, and a few others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:53:35 No.18833737 Report

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>>18833694
Keldeo can't. Neither can Seismotoad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:55:05 No.18833758 Report

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>>18833724
Oh yeah. Forgot about Keldeo. But even still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:55:56 No.18833775 Report

Quoted By: >>18833947

>>18833694
I can definitely see Thunderbolt as a possibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:57:21 No.18833787 Report

Quoted By: >>18833802 >>18833811 >>18833832 >>18833869 >>18833872

If volcanion's going straight to OU, what should it be called? smogonsteamer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:58:38 No.18833802 Report

Quoted By: >>18833815 >>18833844 >>18833872

>>18833787
It should be called "Stop being an autist because Smogon doesn't create the pokemon".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:59:09 No.18833811 Report

Quoted By: >>18833821

>>18833787
SmogonLHC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 02:59:40 No.18833815 Report

Quoted By: >>18833830

>>18833802
That's too long for a name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:00:16 No.18833821 Report

Quoted By: >>18834331

>>18833811
LHC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:01:06 No.18833830 Report

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>>18833815
Fine, AutismSpeaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:01:11 No.18833832 Report

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>>18833787
>yfw Gardevoir will be OU in the next tier shift
>yfw it will be SmogonWaifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:02:03 No.18833844 Report

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>>18833802
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:05:09 No.18833868 Report

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>>18832708
poor leo, always oscar baiting, never a winner

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:05:14 No.18833869 Report

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>>18833787
LargeSmogonCollider

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:05:24 No.18833870 Report

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>>18833625
It's going to shit all over Scizor too. Heatran already gives Scizor but at least it can hit it super effectively with Superpower. It doesn't even get that luxury with Volcanion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:05:35 No.18833872 Report

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>>18833787
Smogstacks.
>>18833802
c'mon, live a little. If we stop being able to laugh at ourselves every now and then, Versilify wins. And that's unacceptable.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:09:10 No.18833906 Report

Quoted By: >>18833953

>people actually believe this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:12:06 No.18833947 Report

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>>18833775
If Gamefreak doesn't fuck this up then the god tier moveset will be:

>Steam Eruption
>Fire Blast
>Earth Power
>Thunderbolt/HP Ice

Steam Eruption + Fire Blast for STAB and burning shit, Earth Power for hitting grounded Electric types, and either Thunderbolt to hit other Water types or HP Ice basically just for Dragonite who would wall it otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:12:38 No.18833953 Report

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>>18833906
>Stats are consistent with spreads leaked by Smealum
>Abilities aren't in any way far-fetched or even optimal, which is in line with what Game Freak would've done
What's impeding your believing, anon?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:17:19 No.18834006 Report

Quoted By: >>18834030 >>18834037 >>18834040 >>18834051

Where the hell does someone even place this thing?

There's sooooo many different things going on with it. Every attribute it has is either terrific or disgustingly bad.

I dare you all to find something just decent or okay with Hoopa. Protip: you won't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:20:14 No.18834030 Report

Quoted By: >>18834095

>>18834006
Scarfed Timid Hoopa can do something with that 150 spa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:20:46 No.18834037 Report

Quoted By: >>18834051 >>18834095

>>18834006
If Hyperspace Hole does indeed work like Feint it can be used getting perfects in the restaurant battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:21:05 No.18834040 Report

Quoted By: >>18834095

>>18834006
it has decent special bulk and good mixed offenses. 150 SpA is the same as Aegislash and every one freaks out about how hard its Shadow Balls hit.

It's just that speed. And the Psychic typing. And the ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:22:20 No.18834051 Report

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>>18834006
Scarf Shadow Ball.
That's all that we know of right now.
>>18834037
It seems that it's confirmed to take two turns, though I still want proof.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:26:25 No.18834095 Report

Quoted By: >>18834122 >>18834138 >>18834140 >>18834155

>>18834030
it has a humongous weakness to sucker punch/shadow sneak users. Also its not getting past Mandibuzz with those STABs. Pray it gets a decent offensive movepool.
>>18834037
Is this something few other pokemon can do in restaurant battles?
>>18834040
Why not just use Aegislash then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:28:37 No.18834122 Report

Quoted By: >>18834196

>>18834095
Aegislash can't steal items :^)

Besides, the question was "find something decent or okay with Hoopa," not "find something Hoopa can do that anything else can't."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:29:13 No.18834138 Report

Quoted By: >>18834196

>>18834095
You can't use Aegislash in UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:29:30 No.18834140 Report

Quoted By: >>18834196

>>18834095
>there's only OU to play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:30:41 No.18834155 Report

Quoted By: >>18834172 >>18834196 >>18834197

>>18834095
Hyperspace Hole goes through protect/detect and has the BP of 80 and never misses. Feint has a BP of 30. If it is indeed one turn instead of two then you can simply take a level 100 Hoopa and can easily get a perfect at the restaurants without worrying about protect/detect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:32:19 No.18834172 Report

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>>18834155
IIRC it has low pp.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:34:52 No.18834196 Report

Quoted By: >>18834237 >>18834245

>>18834122
It's great when there aren't any Dark or Ghost moves flying around, but the moment that possibility is introduced it all goes to hell.

>>18834138
>>18834140
Fair enough. What would you guys run it with in UU? Partners?

>>18834155
That's cool I guess. PP might be an issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:35:03 No.18834197 Report

Quoted By: >>18834220

>>18834155
Hyperspace Hole has 5 base PP, takes two turns, and doesn't have +2 priority, according to the ROM dumper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:36:54 No.18834220 Report

Quoted By: >>18834237 >>18834256

>>18834197
So its confirmed then that it does take two turns. Unfortunate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:38:40 No.18834237 Report

Quoted By: >>18834268 >>18834274 >>18834330

>>18834196
Umbreon. That's the first step, though Krookodile works too.
>>18834220
The dude still hasn't posted pics, but that's what's been stated thus far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:39:21 No.18834245 Report

Quoted By: >>18834330

>>18834196
Florges, Umbreon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:40:27 No.18834256 Report

Quoted By: >>18834330

>>18834220
I wonder if making things shitty is funny to someone working at gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:41:34 No.18834268 Report

Quoted By: >>18834308

>>18834237
It's confirmed. Also Volcanion's signature move is like Scald but with a higher base power, and a 50% chance to burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:41:49 No.18834274 Report

Quoted By: >>18834308 >>18834310

>>18834237
Guy who has the hacked Volcanion and Hoopa has them on a new save file for whatever reason so it will be a while until we get full movesets for them both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:45:19 No.18834308 Report

Quoted By: >>18834322 >>18834426

>>18834268
>50% chance to Burn
>stronger, Special Sacred Fire with a Water typing
Oh yeah, this shit's OU.
Meanwhile, Hoopa gets bumfucked with Razor Wind 2: The Worsening. Classic.
>>18834274
Is there something stopping him from trading it to another file locally and working from there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:45:37 No.18834310 Report

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>>18834274
As it turns out "EmuNAND uses different encryption for the save file fsr. It would wipe any old save if he tried to load one." So there we go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:46:32 No.18834322 Report

Quoted By: >>18834379

>>18834308
Whoops, read the thread. I guess it's not even being done on a 3DS anymore?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:47:46 No.18834330 Report

Quoted By: >>18834422

>>18834256
>It's not shitty, its "A new challenge the player must learn to overcome"
>>18834237
>>18834245
That might actually work provided it gets in safely. Florges can handle Bug moves that neither like, Hoopa resists Poison and is immune to fighting and Umbreon resists Ghost and Dark moves. You also get the added bonus of 2 out of 3 pokemon being capable of healing each other.

Throw in Defog support and Hoopa just might be satisfactory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:48:12 No.18834331 Report

Quoted By:

>>18833821
Large Hadron Collider

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:50:33 No.18834357 Report

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I for one welcome our power-herb thief overlord to RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:53:14 No.18834379 Report

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>>18834322
Its both. They have made some progress in dumping the RAM and some people at Pokemon Project have hacked 3DSes so they do have access to Volcanion and Hoopa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:57:35 No.18834422 Report

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>>18834330
I hope Hoopa gets WoW as well. That would just bring the entire core together. A set like
Hoopa@Choice Scarf/Specs if you're feeling adventurous
Magician
Timid, 4HP/252 Sp.ATK/252 SPEED
Trick
Will o Wisp
Shadow Ball
Dazzling Gleam

This is, of course, making some pretty generous assumptions about Hoopa's movepool, but it would be nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 03:58:01 No.18834426 Report

Quoted By: >>18834504

>>18834308
110 base power to be exact. Scald with 50% chance to burn and 110 base power. Straight to Uber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2014 04:04:25 No.18834504 Report

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>>18834426
Eh, it's still Hazard-weak and might not have any form of recovery outside of Water Absorb. It'll still be neat with an Assault Vest.

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