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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:16:50 No.18863234 View View Reply Original Report

Level up moves:
Flare Blitz, Overheat, Explosion, Steam Eruption,
Take Down, Mist, Haze, Flame Charge,
Water Pulse, Stomp, Scald, Weather Ball,
Body Slam, and Hydro Pump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:18:59 No.18863250 Report

Quoted By: >>18863258 >>18863264

Source?

And Hoopa moves? I'm really interested in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:19:37 No.18863258 Report

Quoted By: >>18863297

>>18863250

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/volcanion.3504481/page-2#post-5379588

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:19:52 No.18863260 Report

Quoted By: >>18864622

Great source you got there, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:20:10 No.18863264 Report

Quoted By: >>18863297

>>18863250
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/volcanion.3504481/page-2
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/hoopa.3504494/page-3

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:20:39 No.18863273 Report

Quoted By: >>18863297 >>18864295

Hoopa's are:

Level up moves:
Trick Room, Shadow Ball, Psychic, Hyperspace Hole,
Trick, Destiny Bond, Ally Switch, Confusion,
Astonish, Magic Coat, Psybeam, Light Screen,
Skill Swap, Power Split, Guard Split,
Phantom Force, Wonder Room

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/hoopa.3504494/page-3#post-5379587

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:21:32 No.18863283 Report

Quoted By: >>18864267

>>18863234
>STAB Weather Ball in both sun and rain
Volcanion would have enjoyed Gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:22:41 No.18863297 Report

Quoted By:

>>18863258
>>18863264
>>18863273
based kaphotics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:47:13 No.18863512 Report

Quoted By: >>18864030

>Volcanion
>all Fire, Water, and Normal moves
Should be okay just as long as it gets something like Thunderbolt or Sludge Bomb from the TMs. All it really needs is something to hit Water and Dragon types with and it will be all good.

>Hoopa
>all Ghost and Psychic moves
Bisharp's going to love this guy. Hopefully it will get Focus Blast so it won't be completely shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 17:53:53 No.18863558 Report

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They're both so much less remarkable than I thought they'd be.
I was expecting unique abilities that work interestingly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 18:41:35 No.18863993 Report

Quoted By: >>18864022

When do you imagine Volcanion will be released?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 18:42:09 No.18863995 Report

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Why are there no TM lists yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 18:43:47 No.18864006 Report

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>Bulky Hazer

It's Ogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 18:46:27 No.18864022 Report

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>>18863993
2016 or 2017 depending depending on how Mega Lati@s plays out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 18:47:16 No.18864030 Report

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>>18863512
>Hopefully it will get Focus Blast
>implying Focus Blast is not total shit too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:01:38 No.18864164 Report

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>yfw it gets SolarBeam, Sludgebomb, Focus Blast, Flash Cannon on top of Steam Eruption and Fire Blast.

VOLCANION IS KING.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:03:36 No.18864183 Report

Quoted By: >>18864204

Serebii has the Tms listed for both

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:06:14 No.18864191 Report

Quoted By: >>18864253

Not bad

Will be OU if anything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:07:39 No.18864204 Report

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>>18864183

>that movepool

Ubers when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:07:43 No.18864206 Report

Quoted By: >>18864231 >>18864239 >>18864393 >>18864751

>http://serebii.net/pokedex-xy/720.shtml
>http://serebii.net/pokedex-xy/721.shtml

Volcanion gets Solarbeam, Earthquake, Brick Break, Sludge Wave/Bomb, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Focus Blast, lolScald, Will-O-Wisp, Stone Edge, Gyro Ball, and Flash Cannon.

Hoopa gets Taunt, Thunderbolt, Psychic, Focus Blast, Energy Ball, Thunder Wave, Grass Knot, and that's about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:10:19 No.18864231 Report

Quoted By: >>18864242

>>18864206
Diancie and hoopa got screwed hard in terms of moves and abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:11:26 No.18864239 Report

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>>18864206
Woops, forgot Calm Mind and Psyshock for Hoopa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:11:45 No.18864242 Report

Quoted By: >>18865070

>>18864231
hoopa's isn't THAT bad, at least it gets focus miss and tbolt

volcanion's looks great though. Surprised there's no electric moves considering it's a generator but oh well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:13:24 No.18864253 Report

Quoted By: >>18864261

>>18864191
volcanion's typing and stats are shit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:14:06 No.18864261 Report

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>>18864253
u fucking wot m8

he looks like the next heatran

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:14:37 No.18864267 Report

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>>18863283
It really would've been pointless in rain since he gets that signature move which is basically a Hydro Pump with 95% accuracy with a 30% burn chance to boot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:18:02 No.18864295 Report

Quoted By: >>18864372

>>18863273
>trick room
Perfect for its speed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:18:27 No.18864298 Report

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>steam eruption

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:19:16 No.18864309 Report

Quoted By: >>18864311 >>18864316 >>18865736

That gives off absolutely no vibe that makes it feel like a pokemon in any way

The new designs are so out of touch with what it means to be a pokemon design

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:19:56 No.18864311 Report

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>>18864309
>I know more about Pokémon designs than sugimori

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:19:59 No.18864312 Report

Quoted By: >>18864326

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/hoopa.3504494/page-4#post-5380007

Kaphotics has confirmed that Hyperspace Hole is a one-turn move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:20:26 No.18864316 Report

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>>18864309
Whining and complaining isn't going to help, it's a Pokemon whether you or I like at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:21:40 No.18864326 Report

Quoted By: >>18864334

>>18864312
Still no real reason to use it over Psychic or Psyshock though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:22:23 No.18864334 Report

Quoted By: >>18864397 >>18864412

>>18864326
I can see it being very useful in doubles since protect is everywhere there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:25:18 No.18864372 Report

Quoted By: >>18864395

>>18864295
It's too fast for trick room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:26:26 No.18864393 Report

Quoted By: >>18864434

>>18864206
>Hoopa gets Taunt, Thunderbolt, Psychic, Focus Blast, Energy Ball, Thunder Wave, Grass Knot, and that's about it.
>doesn't even get Will-O-Wisp

There are only 3 fully evolved Ghosts that don't get WoW. Aegislash, Froslass, and now Hoopa. The other two are understandable but Hoopa not getting it is dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:26:48 No.18864395 Report

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>>18864372
Even with a Negative speed nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:26:58 No.18864397 Report

Quoted By: >>18864405

>>18864334
Too bad it'll be banned in VGC cause it's an event mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:27:45 No.18864405 Report

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>>18864397
>make useful doubles mon
>banned in competitive doubles
game freak truly is the worst company

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:28:11 No.18864412 Report

Quoted By: >>18864447

>>18864334
It's an event mon so it will be banned in Doubles anyway. Man, fuck this thing and fuck Gamefreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:29:56 No.18864434 Report

Quoted By: >>18864460

>>18864393
And on the other hand volcanion has access to scald, will o wisp and steam eruption

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:30:43 No.18864447 Report

Quoted By: >>18864524

>>18864412
At least we still have Volcanion and Zygarde's new forme/mega/who cares to look forward to

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:31:23 No.18864460 Report

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>>18864434
volcanion is a fucking burn machine

immune to wow and scald

dishes out burns nonstop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:36:09 No.18864524 Report

Quoted By: >>18865180

>>18864447
What's this about zygarde?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:41:25 No.18864579 Report

Quoted By: >>18865393

>Steam Eruption
>Fucking Hydro Pump with near perfect accuracy and Scald-tier burn chance

For what purpose

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:42:50 No.18864593 Report

Quoted By: >>18864614 >>18864626

>Hoopa
>Fucking DOUBLE WEAKNESS to Ghost AND Dark
>Absolute shit Speed tier: too slow for regular sweeping but too fast for Trick Room
>Nonexistent physical bulk
>One of the worst stat spreads ever (dat pointlessly high but still useless Attack)

Into the fucking incinerator it goes. Hoopa is like, Articuno tier bad. Hands down worst event legendary. If only its Speed and Attack stats were swapped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:44:53 No.18864614 Report

Quoted By:

>>18864593
Agreed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:45:39 No.18864622 Report

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>>18863260
How do you feel now bitch nigga?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:46:02 No.18864626 Report

Quoted By: >>18864648 >>18864670 >>18864680 >>18867293

>>18864593
that's not how you spell diancie

>diamond storm is physical
>no play rough
>moonblast is special
>no power gem
>lilligant-tier coverage options
>slow as shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:46:02 No.18864627 Report

Quoted By: >>18864748 >>18872288

>Volcanion gets Sludge Wave
This thing is the best Azumarill counter there is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:48:22 No.18864648 Report

Quoted By: >>18864693

>>18864626
They're both terrible. Again GF shows its hard on for water types. Hoopa and Diancie are equally bad in movepools and useless abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:50:29 No.18864670 Report

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>>18864626
>Implying Diancie is anywhere near as bad as Hoopa

Top kek. You do realize that in a metagame where Knock Off and Shadow Ball are behind every corner, a double weakness to both Ghost and Dark is a fucking death sentence. Hoopa can't switch into anything, especially not with that shitty bulk. It doesn't even get Agility to fix that horrible Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:51:09 No.18864680 Report

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>>18864626
>Carbink will never get an evo because of Diashit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:52:27 No.18864693 Report

Quoted By: >>18864725 >>18864736

>>18864648
all you'd have to do to fix diancie somewhat is give it earth power and make diamond storm special instead of physical

seriously game freak why the fuck is it physical

it's a more powerful power gem, the animations even look bloody similar

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:55:19 No.18864725 Report

Quoted By: >>18864750

>>18864693
Diamonds are the hardest substance
Why wouldn't it be physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:56:49 No.18864736 Report

Quoted By:

>>18864693
And switch the attack with hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:57:27 No.18864748 Report

Quoted By:

>>18864627
>what is M-Venusaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:57:30 No.18864750 Report

Quoted By:

>>18864725
because it's not supposed to be throwing them with its muscle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 19:57:50 No.18864751 Report

Quoted By: >>18864857

>>18864206
>volcanion doesn't get ice beam
fuck...oh well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:12:01 No.18864857 Report

Quoted By: >>18865157

>>18864751
>whole theme is heat and boiling water
>ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:31:12 No.18865070 Report

Quoted By: >>18865092

>>18864242
Not a generator. Volcanion is a LHC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:32:34 No.18865092 Report

Quoted By: >>18865234 >>18866420

>>18865070
What's an LHC?

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:38:29 No.18865157 Report

Quoted By: >>18870988

>>18864857
This is exactly why Swampert will never get Sap Sipper

Makes absolute sense competitively, but no sense conceptually

tfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:41:34 No.18865180 Report

Quoted By: >>18865293 >>18865309 >>18865324

>>18864524
There are two upgraded versions of Land's Wrath that are presumably being saved for a new Zygarde form in the next game, like Freeze Shock and Ice Burn were for Kyurem.

http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/thousandarrows.shtml
http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/thousandwaves.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:45:13 No.18865234 Report

Quoted By:

>>18865092
Large Hardon Collider
(it's clearly based on the CERN science Hardon Collider thingy)

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:52:45 No.18865293 Report

Quoted By:

>>18865180
I'm so fucking hyped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:55:23 No.18865309 Report

Quoted By:

>>18865180
I want to contest that assessment.
Unlike Freeze Shock and Ice Burn, these are actually GOOD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 20:57:27 No.18865324 Report

Quoted By:

>>18865180
Have they taken any video of anything? Or just screenshots? Screenshots of the moves maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:04:38 No.18865393 Report

Quoted By: >>18865415

>>18864579
>near perfect
Yeah, say that to Sacred Fire and it missing exactly when I need it to hit.

Seriously, any 90+ accuracy move should just be increased to 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:06:38 No.18865415 Report

Quoted By: >>18865433

>>18865393
95 is near perfect faggit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:07:47 No.18865428 Report

Quoted By: >>18865444 >>18865472

I can't even get hype anymore, it becomes more apparent every day that they really only care about Water types and just shaft everything else.

Greninja compared to the other starters is like comparing a gourmet burger to Sloppy Joe's. Same shit with Volcanion compared to the other two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:07:58 No.18865433 Report

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>>18865415
I know. But the point is that it has a 5% chance to miss. That means that whenever you really, really, really need it to hit, you have a 50% chance of missing. also statistical fallacy general

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:09:03 No.18865444 Report

Quoted By: >>18865454

>>18865428
I think they just didn't want to make another Blaziken by accident. I mean, they went a bit too far, but at least Chesnaught's pretty ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:10:10 No.18865454 Report

Quoted By: >>18865475

>>18865444
trips wasted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:11:47 No.18865472 Report

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>>18865428
chesnaught is really good in ou and walls a ton of shit. It will be god tier once it gets drain punch from the move tutors in z.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:11:56 No.18865475 Report

Quoted By: >>18865597

>>18865454
no friend, consecutive digits are never wasted, they are to be celebrated

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:17:15 No.18865531 Report

Quoted By: >>18865551

We're still missing move tutor moves for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:19:12 No.18865551 Report

Quoted By: >>18865564

>>18865531
We're still missing move tutor moves because there aren't any fucking move tutors, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:20:11 No.18865564 Report

Quoted By: >>18865591

>>18865551
Yeah, I know buddy. Knew one of you would react like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:21:53 No.18865591 Report

Quoted By: >>18865605

>>18865564
If you already knew it was a stupid post and that people would react like that then why did you still post it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:22:22 No.18865597 Report

Quoted By: >>18865631 >>18865922

>>18865475
If/when they do come Hoopa will still be shit, Diancie will still probably be painfully mediocre unless it gets Earth Power but even then that wont help a whole lot and since Volcanion is the alpha of the 3 its probably going to get Earth Power because fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:23:02 No.18865605 Report

Quoted By: >>18865622

>>18865591
Because I had a itch that needed to be scratched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:24:51 No.18865622 Report

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>>18865605
You wouldn't itch so bad if you didn't have so many STDs anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:25:54 No.18865631 Report

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>>18865597
>If
Don't even joke about that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:27:33 No.18865652 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:34:35 No.18865736 Report

Quoted By: >>18871120

>>18864309
>blastoise had inorganic cannons in gen 1
>porygon is literally a digimon
Can you explain how if they fit the design, volcanion doesn't?

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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:35:00 No.18865738 Report

Quoted By: >>18865878 >>18865922

>No Heat Wave
Goddammit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:44:21 No.18865878 Report

Quoted By: >>18865907

>>18865738
It's already got Fire Blast, Flamethrower and Fire Blitz.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:46:49 No.18865907 Report

Quoted By: >>18865922

>>18865878
But muh doubles HailRoom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 21:48:43 No.18865922 Report

Quoted By: >>18866390

>>18865597
There's always a chance for some bitching Event moves. Like Geomancy + Oblivion Wing for Diancie, since Darkrai and Victini got both of the signature moves of the Box Mascots from their respective generations.
>>18865738
>>18865907
>implying we're getting Volcanion before XZ/YZ/whatever the fuck they call them
>implying Heat Wave isn't returning as a Tutor move

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 22:27:37 No.18866390 Report

Quoted By:

>>18865922
we already know what moves diancie is getting from the event

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 22:30:38 No.18866420 Report

Quoted By: >>18866476

>>18865092
Large Hadron Collider

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 22:35:54 No.18866476 Report

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>>18866420
Hardon*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 23:15:23 No.18866869 Report

Quoted By: >>18866887 >>18866982 >>18867381 >>18867622 >>18867662 >>18871010 >>18871058

0- Atk Alomomola Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa: 304-360 (100.9 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

4 Atk Farfetch'd Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa: 304-360 (100.9 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0- Atk Purrloin Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa: 336-396 (111.6 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

204 Atk Life Orb Abra Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa: 302-359 (100.3 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Shuckle Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa: 236-280 (78.4 - 93%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Shuppet Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa: 304-364 (100.9 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

192 Atk Life Orb Gastly Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hoopa: 302-359 (100.3 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Colbur Berry Hoopa: 361-429 (99.1 - 117.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 23:17:28 No.18866887 Report

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>>18866869

We all knew Hoopa was gonna be shit before your autistic calcs, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 23:30:58 No.18866982 Report

Quoted By: >>18867170 >>18867172

>>18866869
Could this be the worst legendary ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 23:50:09 No.18867170 Report

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>>18866982
no that's urmum__

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 23:50:16 No.18867172 Report

Quoted By: >>18867246 >>18870925

>>18866982
>worst legendary ever
>not Regice or Articuno

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 23:56:41 No.18867246 Report

Quoted By: >>18867268

>>18867172
>articuno
do you even use Mean Look + Sheer cold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Apr 2014 23:59:21 No.18867268 Report

Quoted By: >>18867430

>>18867246
How does that work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:01:40 No.18867293 Report

Quoted By:

>>18864626
Diancie uses Power Gem in the trailer for its event

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:08:26 No.18867381 Report

Quoted By:

>>18866869
sweet jesus could that thing be worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:13:25 No.18867430 Report

Quoted By: >>18867473

>>18867268
He probably means Mind Reader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:16:22 No.18867463 Report

Quoted By: >>18867647

Hoopa has the same Special bulk as Latias, move on from the shit Physical bulk and look on the Special side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:17:02 No.18867473 Report

Quoted By: >>18867538

>>18867430
Wouldn't you have to use all three moves to be effective, though? I mean, as soon as you mind reader, the opponent will switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:23:17 No.18867538 Report

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>>18867473
True dat, which is why mind reader+sheer cold is shit in competitive multiplayer. Might be fun to use ingame though.

And Articuno doesn't even learn Mean Look, iirc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:31:03 No.18867622 Report

Quoted By:

>>18866869
>shuckle can almost 1hko something without power trick
Wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:33:18 No.18867647 Report

Quoted By:

>>18867463
But but most threats are physical attackers who are faster than hoopa

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 00:35:04 No.18867662 Report

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>>18866869
Shuppet Shadow Sneak 1 hit. ___________

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:14:40 No.18870827 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:23:07 No.18870925 Report

Quoted By:

>>18867172
>Regice

Regice was the king of the special side in gen 3 before the physical/special split

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:30:11 No.18870988 Report

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>>18865157

Yeah but swampert getting regenerator makes perfect sense and should fuckin happen instead of damp

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:34:27 No.18871010 Report

Quoted By: >>18871038

>>18866869
>mfw this will be the first ever legendary pokemon Ash catches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:39:42 No.18871038 Report

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>>18871010
Dimension fucking in the anime would probably be too OP for Ash to own

I do want to see it in the anime though since I really love its design and wish it wasnt absolute shite

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:43:26 No.18871058 Report

Quoted By: >>18871119 >>18872429

>>18866869

What tier do you think it's going to end up in?

My prediction is RU because that special attack stat but at the same time RU is tougher than ever so probably NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:45:30 No.18871070 Report

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Are you guys sure that gamefreak isn't putting fakemon into the game's code to screw with hackers? This looks like THE worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:50:55 No.18871119 Report

Quoted By: >>18871136

>>18871058
>Gen of Priority
>Dies instantly to one and a half priority moves (sucker punch counted as half because circumstance)
>Has Speed too slow to use normally and too fast for Trick Room
>Dies to Shadow Ball/knock off/Dork Pulse/Crunch/probably fucking Astonish

Into NU it goes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:51:00 No.18871120 Report

Quoted By: >>18871273

>>18865736
if you need me to explain the 90sfeel to you, than you don't fucking belong on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 05:53:40 No.18871136 Report

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>>18871119

Yeah but how many dark types/users of dark type moves are in NU? Probably not a lot. But I guess with all this knock off it could be enough to send it to the bottom of NU.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 06:08:10 No.18871273 Report

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>>18871120
>90's feel

inferior 80's, NU it goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 08:16:53 No.18872288 Report

Quoted By: >>18872335

>>18864627
I'm not sure Sludge Wave will even be needed. I mean what can Azumarill do back? Play Rough is resisted, Water restores HP, Superpower is non stab that gimps your power and defense every turn. Not to mention it risks getting burned by Stream Eruption switching in anyways.

The definite Volca set will probably be something like:

-Stream Eruption
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-Earthquake (tfw no Earth Power)
-filler like Sub or Toxic or even Haze

On a defensive side:

>Steam Eruption
>Roar
>Rest
>Sleep Talk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 08:26:51 No.18872335 Report

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>>18872288
Also, a theory - Volcanion main competition in the metagame wont be Heatran, it will be Rotom-W. Both seem to excel at cockblocking other Water types first and foremost. It will be pretty interesting to see which one will turn out to be a more popular choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Apr 2014 08:47:12 No.18872429 Report

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>>18871058
BL2 because it hits really fucking hard

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