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Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:47:52 No.18918577 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18918592 >>18918599 >>18918615 >>18918618 >>18918621 >>18918704 >>18918754 >>18919038 >>18919457

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to come up with an ability for a hypothetical Mega Swampert

that isn't freaking Sap Sipper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:50:18 No.18918592 Report

Quoted By: >>18918598

>>18918577
Tbf, Sap Sipper = Instagod

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:51:24 No.18918597 Report

Quoted By: >>18920639

I want to lick Swampert's feet :3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:51:26 No.18918598 Report

Quoted By: >>18918709

>>18918592

Swampert is a mudfish.

Mudfish are carnivores.

Sap Sipper makes no fucking sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:51:39 No.18918599 Report

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>>18918577
Huge Power
Sap Sipper isn't the most OP thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:54:57 No.18918615 Report

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>>18918577

Drizzle.

Bam, done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:55:36 No.18918618 Report

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>>18918577
Mold breaker.
It's realistically the most plausible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:56:23 No.18918621 Report

Quoted By: >>18918629

>>18918577
Damp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:57:48 No.18918629 Report

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>>18918621
Damp Swampert feets to lick :3c

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 08:59:11 No.18918633 Report

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Storm Drain/Water Absorb
Sheer Force
Gooey
Sand Rush
all could work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 09:38:04 No.18918662 Report

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Huge Power is possible, the pokedex says je can tow a large ship while swimming. The pokedex isn't the most believable thing though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 09:47:17 No.18918704 Report

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>>18918577
Swift Swim, Huge Power, Mold Breaker or Storm Drain, according to dex entries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 09:49:40 No.18918709 Report

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>>18918598
But most of plants in Pokemon are walking animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 09:52:44 No.18918724 Report

Quoted By: >>18919066 >>18919615

Adaptability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 09:53:09 No.18918727 Report

Quoted By: >>18919615

Multiscale
intimidate
regenerator
Sheer force
mold breaker

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 10:02:22 No.18918754 Report

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>>18918577
Protean, because the axolotl and the olm/proteus are in the same caudata order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 10:52:09 No.18918905 Report

Quoted By: >>18918932

>Huge Power
>Sheer Force
>Regenerator
>Hydration
>Rain Dish
>Sand Force
>Unaware
>Water absorb
>Mold Breaker

If it ever got Huge Power the mega could get wouldn't even need a 100 BST boost, I can't think of any 100+ BST changes that would balanced.

If it didn't get Huge Power I would say that
100/140/110/95/110/80 would be reasonable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:05:07 No.18918932 Report

Quoted By: >>18919629

>>18918905
Posting some calcs with Huge Power Swampert and some with aqua jet, why doesn't it get it ;_;
And I've kept it's base Atk at 110

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 314-372 (105.3 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO NOT IN SUN

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 333-393 (93 - 109.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 423-498 (60 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Scizor: 238-282 (69.1 - 81.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Could wall Scizor completely

If it managed to get a +1 in Atk
+1 252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 399-471 (109.6 - 129.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Pinsir: 219-258 (80.5 - 94.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Gets fucked by Mega Pinsir unless you're running Stone Edge
252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Swampert: 271-319 (67 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 234-276 (78.5 - 92.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Swampert: 283-334 (70 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Cumdragon gets fucked up
252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 427-504 (111.1 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And of course, it destroys heatran
252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 1216-1432 (315 - 370.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 338-402 (113.4 - 134.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Huge Power Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 450-530 (138.8 - 163.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It sounds pretty fucking OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:06:34 No.18918939 Report

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As a big list of stuff that makes sense to me:

Offensive:
>Sheer Force
>Mold Breaker
>Sand Force
>Swift Swim
>Adaptability
>Protean

Defensive:
>Multiscale
>Regenerator
>Storm Drain + similar abilities
>Hydration

Huge Power would be awesome, but also I think a bit too strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:15:43 No.18918969 Report

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Why not a new ability?

Muddy Water: All Ground moves gain the Water type.

So EQ bicame like Flying Press
>dat x4 on fire and rock
>dat x2 on steel, poison, electric and ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:22:30 No.18918978 Report

Quoted By: >>18918982

Swift Swim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:24:54 No.18918982 Report

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>>18918978
Get out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:28:15 No.18918995 Report

Quoted By: >>18919007

Storm Brain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:31:51 No.18919007 Report

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>>18918995
Elaborate please

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:32:20 No.18919009 Report

Quoted By: >>18919020

Drizzle. They gave Drought to Charizard so why not?

Maikus !wKVzt5kn2k

Maikus !wKVzt5kn2k Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:34:50 No.18919020 Report

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>>18919009
Feasible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:35:21 No.18919022 Report

Quoted By: >>18919049 >>18919478

drizzle would be nice as it might serve as a check to char-y (no fucks given if solarbeam takes a turn to activate)

although i don't remember how weather works if both mega'd at the same time. is it the slower one that takes precedence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:39:35 No.18919038 Report

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>>18918577
Why do all the fake mega swampert look like shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:41:33 No.18919049 Report

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>>18919022
yeah it would be a weather war but once swapert set up rocks or somthing it would be over for zard
if not it would be a great Check to zard Why if its played right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 11:43:58 No.18919066 Report

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>>18918724
i like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 12:44:39 No.18919386 Report

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Drizzle is the only ability without it's own Mega, I'd say it fits pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:01:47 No.18919457 Report

Quoted By:

>>18918577
I'm gonna say Mold Breaker or Water Absorb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:06:09 No.18919478 Report

Quoted By:

>>18919022
yes, slower weather is the one that "wins"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:26:07 No.18919600 Report

Quoted By: >>18919611

how about no mega swampert, and change his hidden ability from damp to water absorb so he fits in more with the other water/grounds.

seriously, he has such a fantastic spread but the reliance on lefties recovery and non resistance to scald spam hurts him so much as a bulky water these days

Maikus !wKVzt5kn2k

Maikus !wKVzt5kn2k Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:27:53 No.18919611 Report

Quoted By:

>>18919600
>No Mega
>All tech talk
>What is this fun you speak of?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:27:57 No.18919612 Report

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How about Wonder Guard? :D

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:29:31 No.18919615 Report

Quoted By:

>>18918727
all good

>>18918724
I like this too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:31:26 No.18919627 Report

Quoted By: >>18919650 >>18919839

>Change Blaziken's HA to Unburden (Megaken's remains Speed Boost)

>Change Sceptile's HA to Regenerator.

>Change Swampert's HA to Adaptability.

Fix'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:31:41 No.18919629 Report

Quoted By:

>>18918932
ubers when

Maikus !wKVzt5kn2k

Maikus !wKVzt5kn2k Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:34:45 No.18919650 Report

Quoted By:

>>18919627
Nah, just an ok change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 13:47:23 No.18919718 Report

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No Guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 14:06:48 No.18919839 Report

Quoted By: >>18920797

>>18919627
Eh... Wouldn't be too happy about sceptile losing unburden. Maybe if it got U-Turn along with Regenerator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 14:54:12 No.18920123 Report

Quoted By: >>18920770 >>18921347

Give it Damp.

But have Damp now grant immunity to burns.

150/150/110/85/110/30

Recover is an Egg Move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 15:04:59 No.18920187 Report

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Drizzle, just to make it the antithesis of Mega Charizard Y.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:04:54 No.18920639 Report

Quoted By: >>18920651

>>18918597
plz no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:06:22 No.18920651 Report

Quoted By: >>18920990

>>18920639
Why not? D-do you want to be my Swampert?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:20:34 No.18920770 Report

Quoted By: >>18920818

>>18920123
So, Water Veil?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:23:00 No.18920797 Report

Quoted By:

>>18919839
How is mega-sceptile going to use unburden

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:25:08 No.18920818 Report

Quoted By:

>>18920770

If we can have two abilities that increase attack by 50% when Poisoned, we can have to abilities that grant Burn immunity.

Also introduce half a dozen viable Aftermath users, just to make it even better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:28:52 No.18920864 Report

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Wait a sec guys, listen for a moment, just for one moment.
What if M-Swampert got Mold Breaker, just to give the big middle finger to baton pass teams.
Mold Breaker Roar and all that jazz.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:42:08 No.18920990 Report

Quoted By:

>>18920651
im good man.

Borrego

Borrego Sun 20 Apr 2014 16:46:26 No.18921033 Report

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Slow start

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 17:14:38 No.18921306 Report

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It's funny because with Sap Sipper and the general lack of Grass types in high tiers it would be still garbage and irrilevant, not a secret it's still defeated by most of HO and stallish teams.

All it needs is a stats buff.

As for the Mega Ability that isn't a new one I'd go with Water Absorb or Dry Skin, Strom Drain is fine too.
Since rain is vintage no need of Swift Swim for it, to me Swampert always lookes like something that was ideal for the three water absorbing abilities. Especially seeing how hard walled it is by other bulky water, would fear only Grass Knot and random HP Grass with any of the mentioned abilities.

Other ideas I'd approve in this thread are: Regenerator (since salamender like), Sheer Force and Mold Breaker (usually a classic on big threating Pokèmon) and Adaptability, this is we're clearly aiming to make it extremely viable.

Personally, I'd like a slightly buffed in offense Swampert like +15 Atk +15 Sp.Atk but remaining also a bulky mon with a +35 or more in Def and Sp.Def taking the extra points from the Speed if needed. The key of this spread would be Recover as Egg Move or L.0 move through relearner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Apr 2014 17:19:33 No.18921347 Report

Quoted By:

>>18920123
> There are people who still add HP base stats to mega evolutions

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