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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:26:09 No.18931157 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18931201 >>18931221 >>18933794 >>18934102 >>18934778 >>18934795 >>18935211 >>18936417 >>18941713

Make an already absurdly strong Pokémon even better.

Give Blaziken Drain Punch

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:27:32 No.18931164 Report

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Recover

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:27:56 No.18931167 Report

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Give it Shell Smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:30:05 No.18931176 Report

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Give Blaziken Geomancy :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:31:19 No.18931181 Report

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Give it Boston Crab

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:32:12 No.18931186 Report

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Give it Kill

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:33:15 No.18931191 Report

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>>18931176
Give Lucario Geomancy.
Have it hold Power Herb.
Run mixed set.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:37:17 No.18931199 Report

Quoted By: >>18931288

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:37:41 No.18931201 Report

Quoted By: >>18934982

>>18931157
Give every Pokemon five moveslots instead of four. Everything gets a lot more broken all of a sudden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:43:02 No.18931221 Report

Quoted By: >>18931223 >>18931298

>>18931157

>Blaziken no longer needs a megastone to mega evolve, can hold Life Orb etc
>Get's a +2 Priority base 130 recoil-less physical Fire attack

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:43:47 No.18931223 Report

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>>18931221
I meant make it better within the realms of theoretical possibility in the current games, nigger.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:55:51 No.18931264 Report

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mega darkrai with an ability that's prankster+bad dreams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:01:22 No.18931288 Report

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>>18931199
nice double dubs grats

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:04:43 No.18931298 Report

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>>18931221
Mega Blaziken also gets Sheer Force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 17:49:12 No.18933384 Report

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Give Kyogre Hurricane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 17:54:29 No.18933435 Report

Quoted By: >>18933808

Rayquaza gets Aerilate and Boomburst.
Groudon and Kyogre get their permanent weather back.
Regigigas gets Pure Power and Extremespeed.
Smeargle gets Prankster.
Mega Mewtwo X gets a Fighting type move that is physical but hits Special Defense, like an inverse Psystrike.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:10:18 No.18933565 Report

Quoted By: >>18933689 >>18933787

Give Eelektross Wonder Guard.

>capcha immortalize

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:21:58 No.18933689 Report

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>>18933565
it's.. it's going to lose levitate then anon.
You understand that makes it vulnerable to earthquake, right?
You remember that move?
Every other pokemon runs it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:31:26 No.18933787 Report

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>>18933565
Air Baloon.

I hope you have Mold Breaker in your team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:32:25 No.18933794 Report

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>>18931157
What about giving him/her Mach Punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:32:28 No.18933795 Report

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>>18933787
Meant to quote >>18933689

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:34:13 No.18933808 Report

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>>18933435
Regigigas isn't absurdly strong, it sucks donkey dick competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:39:58 No.18933858 Report

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>>18933689
As someone stated before just give it an air balloon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:46:56 No.18933909 Report

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>>18933808
>Pure power doubles his base 160 Attack and gets rid of Slow Start
>Extreme Speed would be STAB
That's +2 Priority 120power coming off of 466 Attack at Lv.50, I can't think of many changes that would be more OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:48:58 No.18933928 Report

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make aegislash pure ghost

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:50:11 No.18933936 Report

Quoted By: >>18933999 >>18934959 >>18935090

It's not absurdly strong, but whatever. A bit more base speed and Guillotine.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:52:23 No.18933950 Report

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>>18933808
Hence why I'd give it Pure Power and Extremespeed so it would stand a chance in Ubers...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:55:35 No.18933970 Report

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Heracross gets Mach Punch and Drain Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 18:58:33 No.18933999 Report

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>>18933936
Guillotine doesn't really fit Machamp. Make a reminder of Gen 1 and give it Fissure.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:04:27 No.18934042 Report

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>>18933999
B-but then it won't be OP against levitate or flying-type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:10:34 No.18934102 Report

Quoted By: >>18934148 >>18934349

>>18931157

OP, you're thinking too small. Let me help you:

V-create on Speed Boost Kentucky Fighting Chicken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:16:17 No.18934148 Report

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>>18934102
The back of its head is basically an upside down V, anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:18:58 No.18934170 Report

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>>18934148
Hell the mega is a V

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:27:59 No.18934230 Report

Quoted By: >>18934309 >>18934341

>>18931191

>have Power Herb/Geomancy Lucario on a Doubles Team
>Have its doubles partner hold Lucarionite
>X used Trick!
>next turn:
>Lucario's Lucarionite is reacting, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:34:59 No.18934309 Report

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>>18934230
...I don't think Mega Stones can be moved around like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:38:09 No.18934341 Report

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>>18934230
Mega stones can't be moved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 19:39:16 No.18934349 Report

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>>18934102
+2 252+ Atk Mega Blaziken V-create vs. 252 HP / 176+ Def Lugia: 475-559 (114.1 - 134.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
This is assuming you break Multiscale with hazards but still, I'm scared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:01:27 No.18934549 Report

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Garchomp gets Dragon Dance and Extremespeed. It's believable and makes sense lore-wise, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:22:09 No.18934778 Report

Quoted By: >>18935128

>>18931157
Dragonite with Multiscale
oh wait...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:24:07 No.18934795 Report

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>>18931157
>mfw in White, I created a hack Blaziken with Drain Punch and Speed Boost

It really is as strong as you'd think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:37:22 No.18934959 Report

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>>18933936
>implying OHKO moves work with No Guard

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:38:22 No.18934965 Report

Quoted By: >>18935276

>>18934959
They do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:39:32 No.18934982 Report

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>>18931201
Aegislash for Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:47:49 No.18935090 Report

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>>18933936
OP said better, not broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:51:36 No.18935128 Report

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>>18934778
dragonite with Thick fat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 20:58:23 No.18935184 Report

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Smeargle gains Prankster

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:00:27 No.18935211 Report

Quoted By: >>18935287 >>18940801

>>18931157
>Blaziken
>absurdly strong

have fun getting rekt by Aqua jet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:05:43 No.18935276 Report

Quoted By: >>18935319

>>18934965
Except that's wrong. No Guard does not ignore the 30% accuracy of OHKO moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:06:53 No.18935287 Report

Quoted By: >>18935342 >>18935361

>>18935211
252+ Atk Dragonite Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Blaziken: 120-142 (39.8 - 47.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Sharpedo Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Blaziken: 213-252 (70.7 - 83.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Mega Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sharpedo: 1106-1304 (393.5 - 464%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:09:42 No.18935319 Report

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>>18935276
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/No_Guard_%28Ability%29

>The lower the initial accuracy of the move, the higher its chance of breaking through Protect or Detect. Thus, when used against Protect or Detect, moves like Swift and Aerial Ace will always be blocked. One-hit knockout moves are exempted from this behavior and will be protected against. This battle mechanic was a bug, and was fixed in Platinum so that most moves are blocked by Protect and Detect.

Other than using protect agaisnt them in DP, No-Guard does, in fact, make OHKO moves always hit.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/One-hit_knockout_move
>However, any effects that cause a move to completely ignore the accuracy check (such as the Ability No Guard, or X Accuracy in Generation II or earlier) will allow OHKO moves to always hit.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:12:26 No.18935342 Report

Quoted By: >>18935351 >>18935373

>>18935287
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 638-752 (211.9 - 249.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

kek

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:13:03 No.18935351 Report

Quoted By: >>18935397

>>18935342
You'll notice waterfall does not have priority

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:13:44 No.18935361 Report

Quoted By: >>18935374 >>18935397

>>18935287

Now do something that actually matters, like Azumarill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:15:06 No.18935373 Report

Quoted By: >>18935397 >>18935501

>>18935342
Why does this shit always happen where some guy thinks he can run a calc wherein a strong pokemon dies, and thinks he's a fucking pokemon genius.

Anyone can do that, often with fucking shitmon.

252+ Atk Expert Belt Electivire Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 449-533 (111.1 - 131.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

AZUMARILL CONFIRMED FOR NU TRASH.

AZUMARILL FAGS GETTING

BTFO
T
F
O

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:15:06 No.18935374 Report

Quoted By: >>18935578

>>18935361
>252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 216-254 (71.7 - 84.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

The problem is there's nothing Blaziken can do back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:17:18 No.18935397 Report

Quoted By: >>18935426

>>18935351
>>18935361
>>18935373
>252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 320-378 (106.3 - 125.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:20:05 No.18935426 Report

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>>18935397
Yeah, cuz you're going to stay in on an Azumarill, and not just switch in to something that can wall it now that it's locked itself into a garbage move.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:26:34 No.18935501 Report

Quoted By: >>18935567 >>18935618

>>18935373
>252+ Atk Malamar Psycho Cut vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scatterbug: 202-238 (93 - 109.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:30:39 No.18935548 Report

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Water Shuriken

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:33:26 No.18935567 Report

Quoted By: >>18935592 >>18935618

>>18935501
>252 SpA Galvantula Bug Buzz vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Malamar: 456-540 (145.2 - 171.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>252+ Atk Scizor U-turn vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Malamar: 396-468 (126.1 - 149%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>252+ SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Malamar: 628-744 (200 - 236.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>252+ Atk Beedrill X-Scissor vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Malamar: 352-420 (112.1 - 133.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:34:22 No.18935578 Report

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>>18935374
thunderpunching or baton passing to an electric/poison/grass type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:35:52 No.18935592 Report

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>>18935567
>252+ Atk Choice Band Caterpie Bug Bite vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Malamar: 324-384 (103.5 - 122.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:37:59 No.18935618 Report

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>>18935501
>>18935567
What does Malamar have to do with anything? Also it's a shitmon with a 4x weakness, of course it gets rekt by tons of things.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:39:33 No.18935631 Report

Quoted By: >>18935643 >>18935648

Prankster

PKMN Breeder Mason !eI78xZtOh.

PKMN Breeder Mason !eI78xZtOh. Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:40:04 No.18935638 Report

Quoted By: >>18935689

>Cinccino
>Water Shuriken
I'd say even if it was a move tutor thing in the next game that it wouldn't make sense, but neither does Rock Blast far as I can tell, so I'm holding onto this little hope

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:40:28 No.18935643 Report

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>>18935631
>losing Magnet Pull

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:40:43 No.18935648 Report

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>>18935631
Levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:44:43 No.18935689 Report

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>>18935638
>not bone rush or arm thrust

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 21:47:34 No.18935723 Report

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>Kyurem-Normal
>Snow Warning
>Free Blizzspam

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Apr 2014 22:51:04 No.18936417 Report

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>>18931157
Give Vacuum Wave and Mach Punch to Aegislash.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Apr 2014 05:56:36 No.18940801 Report

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>>18935211
Pokemon have weaknesses?! STOP THE PRESSES!

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Anonymous Tue 22 Apr 2014 08:43:06 No.18941677 Report

Quoted By: >>18941732

>Aerodactyl used Dragon Dance!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Apr 2014 08:47:00 No.18941713 Report

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>>18931157
Make him dark and ghost type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Apr 2014 08:49:42 No.18941732 Report

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>>18941677
>Aerodactyl with rock head and head smash

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Anonymous Tue 22 Apr 2014 08:51:47 No.18941749 Report

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>>18933999
>Guillotine doesn't really fit Machamp.
While I do agree it would be stupid broken...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_naked_choke

It does fit nicely.

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