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Anonymous Fri 25 Apr 2014 18:55:06 No.18974557 View View Reply Original Report

Why is the 3D so shitty in X & Y? It's like everything is on one plane, just pushed back slightly. On top of the framerate shits itself when you have it on in the two instances it will let you turn it on. A Link Between Worlds runs at 60 FPS at all times whether the 3D is on or off, and I guarantee you that has more objects on-screen than Pokémon. Will Z fix the 3D?

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Anonymous Fri 25 Apr 2014 19:03:48 No.18974657 Report

Quoted By: >>18978966

Dream Drop Distance is Full 3D and it's running smothely. Loading is tolerable.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Apr 2014 19:04:43 No.18974670 Report

Quoted By: >>18978955

3d is shitty anyway

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Anonymous Fri 25 Apr 2014 21:34:44 No.18976260 Report

Quoted By: >>18979151

>>18974557
No expert, but I think it has to do with the art style of the game and the design of the monsters. Part of the way our minds perceive depth has to do with relativity.There 99.9% of the time isn't any visible texture across the pokemanz bodies, or any gradient from the lighting because of cell-shading. Most their body is all just one or two values (the side where light hits them and the side where it's not). That's why you can only notice 3D in very rare instances and most of it looks like it's 'on one plane'. So no, Z will not fix this, although it might fix framerate. pic related; if the version on the left was in 3D, you would notice more an effect than the one on the right.

spoilered because that may have been confusing as hell, again I'm no expert. fuck

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Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 01:50:21 No.18978955 Report

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>>18974670
Says you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 01:51:24 No.18978966 Report

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>>18974657
I've come across issues when there are a lot of enemies on the screen. Then it starts slowing down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 01:56:33 No.18979024 Report

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3d is just a silly gimmick anyway,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 02:00:01 No.18979049 Report

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>>18974557
Gamefreak can't optimize it as well as some of the other 3rd parties that have worked with a 3D environment before.

I won't say z is when it is fixed, but the next iteration. X and Y were just transition games to make the jump into glorious 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 02:04:15 No.18979087 Report

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Yeah, it sucks. And even with 3D OFF the frame rate drops sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 02:12:36 No.18979151 Report

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>>18976260
The 3D on the Pokemon models looks pretty good when an egg hatches or when they're evolving though. It's just noticeably worse in battles. It seems as if they cut it back to three or four flat layers during battles instead of a more consistent depth effect probably because they have poor programmers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 03:09:40 No.18979669 Report

Quoted By: >>18979732

I just want full 60fps back. If SSB and ALBW can do it, why can't GF do it? Gen 3 and the battles in gen 5 did it, so I don't see why they stopped.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 03:14:47 No.18979732 Report

Quoted By: >>18980369

>>18979669
>Gen III
>riding a Mach Bike with 60FPS
I was stunned the first time I played the game, especially when compared to Crystal which I played before, and Diamond which came after. I really do hope constant 60FPS returns, it really allows for one to be immersed with the game.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 03:15:13 No.18979742 Report

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>tfw you can't afford a 3ds and experience games in 3D

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:09:06 No.18980369 Report

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>>18979732
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't all GBA Games at 20 FPS? That's what VBA forces them to anyway.

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