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Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:32:35 No.18980589 View View Reply Original Report

Why hasn't gamefreak included a harder difficulty game replay yet? It's like they want 90% of people to stop after the elite 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:34:13 No.18980598 Report

Quoted By: >>18980643 >>18980648 >>18981150

>harder difficulty game replay
>unlocking hard mode after beating the game

No. It should be available from the start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:37:47 No.18980635 Report

Quoted By: >>18980647 >>18980648

>>18980589
No, it should be unlocked from the start, like Challenge mode from Black 2 and White 2 if you had already gotten the key.
Except you know, not shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:39:14 No.18980643 Report

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>>18980598
Who the fuck thought that getting Hard Mode AFTER beating the game was a good idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:39:25 No.18980647 Report

Quoted By: >>18980935

>>18980635
I still can't fucking believe that shit

>sweet, unlocked a harder mode! time to start a new game and... oh.

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:39:44 No.18980648 Report

Quoted By: >>18980691 >>18980725

>>18980598
>>18980635
>From the start
hard mode and new game + are 2 different things

tough both would do the game good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:44:13 No.18980690 Report

Quoted By: >>18980698

BW2 Challenge mode was stupid in how its obtained.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:44:13 No.18980691 Report

Quoted By: >>18980718

>>18980648
It is so easy to add both too.

Hard mode is just upping the levels of everything and making new teams for key opponents like Gym/Elite4/Rival/EvilAdmins.

New Game+ is just transporting the player back to the beginning, and resetting all the event flags. If a legend has to be caught for the story, just force you to beat it and make it uncatchable during new game+. So easy from a work/coding perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:44:57 No.18980698 Report

Quoted By: >>18980723 >>18980724

>>18980690
If I start challenge mode, do I lose my old save?

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:47:00 No.18980718 Report

Quoted By: >>18980747

>>18980691
new game + should also have upping the levels of everything

including wild and even pokemons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:47:33 No.18980723 Report

Quoted By: >>18980965

>>18980698
Yes, and you lose Challenge Mode too since it's tied to your save

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:47:37 No.18980724 Report

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>>18980698
No, it switches over but it's rather pointless, all you really get out of it is a slightly stronger league.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:47:43 No.18980725 Report

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>>18980648
I'd be happy with either.
Gen 6 was painfully easy. I

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:51:08 No.18980747 Report

Quoted By: >>18980782

>>18980718
That and/or locking your old game mons away until you beat/reach the elite 4.

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:55:01 No.18980782 Report

Quoted By: >>18980799

>>18980747
no, in new game + you need to have some connection to your old game from the very start

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 04:58:04 No.18980799 Report

Quoted By: >>18980812

>>18980782
Your items. The alternative is to make everyone level 100.

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:01:08 No.18980812 Report

Quoted By: >>18980820

>>18980799
>implying you can't beat the E4 with team of level 50
Items would make sense in a game that focuses on items, like recetear- but not in pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:02:16 No.18980820 Report

Quoted By: >>18980835

>>18980812
So you think making the opponents level 100 from the start is a viable alternative?

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:05:46 No.18980835 Report

Quoted By: >>18980847

>>18980820
>implying you can't beat the E4 with team of level 50

The opponent should match your level and the AI needs improvments. enemy teams need ev trainings and more items and held items.

hard mode is nice, but due to lack of levels enemy movepool would be limited untill late game, and so will be the effects of ev training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:07:51 No.18980847 Report

Quoted By: >>18980858 >>18980869

>>18980835
There's a difference between eeking out a win underleveled (you are grossly exaerrating with the level 50s) and simply steamrolling the whole game with level 100 mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:08:59 No.18980858 Report

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>>18980847
By level 50 I mean compared to a hypothetical level 100 elite 4 I suggested earlier.

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Schmuddel !YScraftYCE Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:09:33 No.18980862 Report

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Any attempt increasing difficulty (nuzlockes, B2W2's challenge mode, etc) can be overcome through grinding, which gets old pretty quickly. There needs to be a serious AI improvement and perhaps level caps, like a gym leader's team will always be the level of your strongest Pokémon.

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:10:59 No.18980869 Report

Quoted By: >>18980874

>>18980847
>you are grossly exaerrating with the level 50s
perhaps, but enemy levels in new game + should match trainer levels. should be 2-5 levels higher as long as it's possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:11:32 No.18980874 Report

Quoted By: >>18980909

>>18980869
So you are proposing level scaling?

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:16:32 No.18980909 Report

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>>18980874
Yes.
either that or starting the levels from where E4 left off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:20:14 No.18980935 Report

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>>18980647
It's a good thing I played through Black 2 first, so that I actually got a chance to play through Hard Mode shortly after release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:24:41 No.18980965 Report

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>>18980723
Okay, so question here. I have both W2 and B2. I beat B2, sent challenge mode over to W2 and played that in challenge mode, then restarted my B2 and tried to transfer challenge mode key from W2 and couldn't. Can you only get the easy mode key from W2 even if you have the challenge mode key associated with that save file?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:38:16 No.18981089 Report

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>>18980589
>It's like they want 90% of people to stop after the elite 4.
Doesn't matter, they already have your money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:49:27 No.18981126 Report

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Don't people create their own difficulty with nuzlocke and such. I haven't played the newer games but in the old games the only way to not get killed in a cave was to level up you pokemon.

If your pokemon where the same level as the wild pokemon you had to stay off the grass after a couple of battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:49:29 No.18981127 Report

Quoted By: >>18981169

I liked how in Gen 2, A whole nother region opened up after you beat the elite 4. My only problem with Gen 2 was how neutered the gym leaders and the elite 4 were. Come on level 40 dragonite? WTF Gamefreak.

I'd like to see another league after the elite 4, or maybe a smaller region like a few islands opened up. Or best idea; Underground pokemon league with their own gym leaders and elite 4 and champion. Imagine if you're rival was the champion of the underground league?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:52:32 No.18981150 Report

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>>18980598
Fff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 05:54:37 No.18981169 Report

Quoted By: >>18981558 >>18981860

>>18981127
Imagine if you stopped being an unimaginative faggot.

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Thoughtless celestial !!tHnFiSDPCz5 Sat 26 Apr 2014 06:45:54 No.18981558 Report

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>>18981169
Cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 08:11:17 No.18981854 Report

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I'd love X and Y to have a new game +

GF you piece of shit do you even believe in the word "after game" anymore you haven't made good aftergames since Gen 2 and the remakes to Gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Apr 2014 08:13:01 No.18981860 Report

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>>18981169

You're a piece of shit and I bet you frequent smogon

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