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Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 19:56:23 No.19040111 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19040214 >>19040472 >>19040595

How do i beat this thing and his mega. I wanna nuke it, it's driving me insane. I fucking hate it and whoever uses it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 19:57:06 No.19040119 Report

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>amaura used powder snow!

Pete [0104-0499-3702]

Pete [0104-0499-3702] Thu 01 May 2014 19:59:23 No.19040144 Report

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>Ludicolo used Ice Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:00:49 No.19040152 Report

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>weak Pokemon used Ice typed attack!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:02:29 No.19040173 Report

Quoted By: >>19040216

Literally all you have to do is use an ice type attack, and you instantly kill it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:02:33 No.19040174 Report

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>Literally any scarfed mon that can use Ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:04:27 No.19040188 Report

Quoted By: >>19040623

i fucking need to detonate him in doubles. every fucking time i want to set up something, a jesus christ chomp just spam a motherfapping earthquake.

i know that i have to gid gud too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:06:52 No.19040214 Report

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>>19040111
>Greninja used Ice Beam!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:07:01 No.19040216 Report

Quoted By: >>19040395 >>19040572

>>19040173
252+ Atk Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 304-360 (84.9 - 100.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

Garchomp is surprisingly bulky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:25:10 No.19040380 Report

Quoted By: >>19040399

what about weavile in doubles? could a 252 Atk/252 Spe OHKO a chomp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:27:52 No.19040395 Report

Quoted By: >>19040403

>>19040216

Add Life Orb to that calc. I've honestly never had a Garchomp survive an Ice Shard from my Swine except that one time Garchomp was using the appropriate berry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:28:02 No.19040399 Report

Quoted By: >>19040491

>>19040380
>Mamoswine
>130 base Attack
>Weavile
>120 base Attack
Guess.
The answer is "as long as you're using a Physical move other than Ice Shard".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:29:03 No.19040403 Report

Quoted By: >>19040429 >>19040491

>>19040395
Mamoswines are typically sashed, so that's what I went with. Anyone with any degree of sense can see if you do anything to increase damage it will 1HKO standard chomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:29:49 No.19040410 Report

Quoted By: >>19040448

Congratulations OP, you now understand how we all felt back in gen4.

I'll give you a hint. Good revenge killers that punish him for sending chompy out. Pull shit like Jolteon with hp ice, if he switches just tbolt to death the next thing that comes in. Use sub for pseudodonking.

Walls like Gliscor hard check him, as long as you pack ice fang to kill him before he gets off enough SDs.

Skarm can come in on almost any attack and Spikes once then whirlwind him out.

git gud op

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:31:25 No.19040429 Report

Quoted By: >>19040476

>>19040403
>mamoswines are typically Sashed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:34:29 No.19040448 Report

Quoted By: >>19040501

>>19040410
i hate garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:37:47 No.19040472 Report

Quoted By: >>19042721

>>19040111
His mega is easier to beat than his normal form! Just use a powerful (and maybe faster) dragon or ice type to beat him down! I wouldn't recommend a fairy since poison jab/earthquake though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:38:06 No.19040476 Report

Quoted By: >>19040510

>>19040429
That's what the calculator will come up with, because it uses the four most common moves for each species and the most popular held item, nature, and EV spread.

Lead Mamoswine is actually pretty good for setting Rocks up, since no one ever bothers trying to Taunt a Pokemon with Oblivious, and no one bothers to calc whether or not that "Super Effective" Flare Blitz actually dealt twice as much damage as Brave Bird would've.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:39:41 No.19040491 Report

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>>19040403
>Mamoswines are typically sashed
Lowest of the rank, ladies and gentlemen.

>>19040399
LO Weavile has a good chance of OHKOing with Ice Shard and OHKOs with CB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:41:33 No.19040501 Report

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>>19040448
He's dangerous, but all he really does is punish you for not having a good wall.

Dragon and Ground are common as fuck phys attacking types. If you didn't have a solution to these things you kind of deserved to lose anyway.

I'll give you another protip. If I were going to run a Garchomp, I would pack one or two Pokemon to take out his checks and counters. For example, a ttar with fire blast and ice beam to shit on Gliscor and Skarm. If I can get rid of your ability to stop chomp raping your whole team, then chomp will proceed to rape your whole team. So plan against that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:42:24 No.19040510 Report

Quoted By: >>19040572

>>19040476
I don't know what calculator you are using but pretty much everyone at high level uses Scarf, Band, Weakness Policy, or Assault Vest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:44:22 No.19040523 Report

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I hate regular Garchomp more than its mega just because of one hundred AND TWO base speed that fucks over some things that can beat it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:44:28 No.19040524 Report

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Scarfchomp is best chomp counter tbh.

Just pray you win the speed tie with other scarfchomps. But even if you lose, once you lock it into outrage you should be able to beat it. Assuming you're a competent player.

Nothing's guarenteed though. Chomp is just that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:52:40 No.19040572 Report

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>>19040510
I'm using the Showdown! damage calc, which still gives retards an excessively loud voice. If you're running a quick calc, you're probably going to go with the set that comes up as "usage" instead of actually making a quality set from scratch for testing. I'm assuming that's where >>19040216 came from, even though it's suboptimal for OU.

Just look at what shows up for Charizard's most used set. Yech.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:53:52 No.19040582 Report

Quoted By: >>19040598

topkek
252 Atk Choice Band Hustle Delibird Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 360-424 (100.5 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:56:22 No.19040595 Report

Quoted By: >>19040598

>>19040111
Banded Hustle Delibird with Ice Shard if you RNGesus is on your side
Mamoswine does a pretty good job and is OU though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:57:23 No.19040598 Report

Quoted By: >>19040602 >>19040606

>>19040595
Dont need RNGesus, >>19040582 Jolly Band Delibird kills it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:58:34 No.19040602 Report

Quoted By: >>19040608

>>19040598
>how does Hustle work

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:59:09 No.19040606 Report

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>>19040598
Hustle means you have a chance to miss. So yes, you need RNGesus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 20:59:20 No.19040608 Report

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>>19040602
oh yeah.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 21:01:33 No.19040618 Report

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Ice, Ice baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 May 2014 21:02:11 No.19040623 Report

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>>19040188
Use levitate or Flying types?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 May 2014 00:46:09 No.19042721 Report

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>>19040472
Except Mega Garde outspeeds it and it still can't get past Granbull after a Intimidate. Your right about Fairies not being the best option against the Chomp tho...

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