>>19063587>A LOT of 'mons do.No they don't. Nearly every common set-up sweeper has utility outside of being a set-up sweeper. Scizor can Swords Dance to attempt a sweep, but it doesn't need a boost to revenge kill weakened opponents and Knock Off is annoying as fuck. Mega Tyranitar has the bulk to take pretty much any attack, and has enough attack to KO in return. Mega Pinsir has a very good speed tier and strong priority, so it can check a lot of things without having to use Swords Dance. SD Bisharp has Sucker Punch and discourages Defog just by existing.
All Cloyster can do is use Ice Shard to RK anything that's 4x weak to it. That's it, that's all the utility it has outside of being a set-up sweeper. Oh and it gets rapid spin, I guess. Meanwhile, every other set-up sweeper has much, much higher than 95 base attack, and doesn't immediately crumple to any special attack.
>Never stopped TTarTTar has absurd levels of bulk on both sides. It's also not a set-up sweeper, unless you're running DD Mega TTar in which case it's even bulkier. 100/140 psychical bulk, even uninvested, REQUIRES a fighting move to OHKO (or really crazy attacks like Mega Mawile's Play Rough,) and no special move sans Focus Blast is going to do it in (Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice can't OHKO, for example.) Cloyster, however, does not have any special bulk to speak of, and while it has some nice physical bulk, it's lowered by Shell Smash.
>Git GudWhat are you even trying to say here? I could git gud with pretty much any pokemon and make it work, that doesn't mean I'm not going to be way better off using a better pokemon. Cloyster just sucks.
